XFX Radeon VII or MSI RTX 2080 super gamin x trio ?

[AntonioMarius]

I want to get a new GPU but im not expert when it comes to them, i heard both video cards are good but witch one is better? I will only use it for gaming and stream games on twitch, thanks for the help.

[boggy77]

in gaming the 2080 super is better

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/amd-radeon-vii-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-amd-ryzen-5-3600/high/high/-vs-

[AntonioMarius]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

in gaming the 2080 super is better

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/amd-radeon-vii-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-amd-ryzen-5-3600/high/high/-vs-

Thanks for the comment, i will use it with a Ryzen 9 3950x , Can't wait, my first propper gaming PC :ddd

[AntonioMarius]

3 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

2080.

Why?

[boggy77]

Just now, AntonioMarius said:

Thanks for the comment, i will use it with a Ryzen 9 3950x , Can't wait, my first propper gaming PC :ddd

if you're only gaming, the 3950x won't make a big difference compared with a 3600, which is a quarter of the price.

[AntonioMarius]

Just now, boggy77 said:

if you're only gaming, the 3950x won't make a big difference compared with a 3600, which is a quarter of the price.

I know that but i just want to make a computer that will keep me for 5-10 20000 years you know what i mean, so i dont have to change components every 5-6 years

[boggy77]

Just now, AntonioMarius said:

I know that but i just want to make a computer that will keep me for 5-10 20000 years you know what i mean, so i dont have to change components every 5-6 years

it makes more financial sense to upgrade more often and in that way you also always have up to date components. but that's up to you.

[AntonioMarius]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

it makes more financial sense to upgrade more often and in that way you also always have up to date components. but that's up to you.

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

[boggy77]

Just now, AntonioMarius said:

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

on average, the 3600 will give you 1% lower frames than the 3950x when paired with a 2080 super.

I wouldn't pay 3 times more for 1%.

 

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-amd-ryzen-9-3950x/ultra/ultra/-vs-

[AntonioMarius]

1 minute ago, AntonioMarius said:

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

 

5 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

it makes more financial sense to upgrade more often and in that way you also always have up to date components. but that's up to you.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-3600X-Processor-Cache/dp/B07SQBFN2D/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ryzen%2B3600&qid=1582652749&sr=8-2&th=1

Take a look at this please

[boggy77]

1 minute ago, AntonioMarius said:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-3600X-Processor-Cache/dp/B07SQBFN2D/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ryzen%2B3600&qid=1582652749&sr=8-2&th=1

Take a look at this please

the difference between the 3600 and the 3600x is that the 3600x has a better cooler. with your budget, i'd replace the stock cooler anyway, so there's no point in getting the x version.

[boggy77]

@AntonioMarius if you give us an overall budget and system use/requirements, we can recommend a full build for you.

[AntonioMarius]

Just now, boggy77 said:

the difference between the 3600 and the 3600x is that the 3600x has a better cooler. with your budget, i'd replace the stock cooler anyway, so there's no point in getting the x version.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GKSFC6J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

I was thinking to get this one for the 3950x but since u are here and you told me that there is no difference betweeen those 2 if i only game and stream, what do you think , will this fit on this one as well ?

 

[Freohr]

Just now, AntonioMarius said:

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

R5 3600 is an excellent midrange cpu and right now game performance is mostly dominated by the graphics card. If you saved the $500+ from getting a 3600 instead of the 3950x, you could get a 2080 Ti, which is probably the best consumer gpu, not counting the RTX titan. That would be the best choice.

[AntonioMarius]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

@AntonioMarius if you give us an overall budget and system use/requirements, we can recommend a full build for you.

Well that msi rtxa 2080 super gaming x trio and this CPU that you told me that ryzen 5 3600 and 32 gb ram 3200 mhz if i am not wrong, and from here you can help me if you can, btw, I am in the uk so if you can send me links of amazon that would be great =))

[AntonioMarius]

Just now, Freohr said:

R5 3600 is an excellent midrange cpu and right now game performance is mostly dominated by the graphics card. If you saved the $500+ from getting a 3600 instead of the 3950x, you could get a 2080 Ti, which is probably the best consumer gpu, not counting the RTX titan. That would be the best choice.

Thanks for the help mate, so happy that i joinded this site , love to everyone haha

[boggy77]

3 minutes ago, AntonioMarius said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GKSFC6J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

I was thinking to get this one for the 3950x but since u are here and you told me that there is no difference betweeen those 2 if i only game and stream, what do you think , will this fit on this one as well ?

 

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

[AntonioMarius]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

Will it be good with the motherboard that the cpu comes with ? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-ROG-X570-F-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07TLM9YHL/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B07TLM9YHL

 Or are there cheaper ones that are the same? Thanks for the help

[AntonioMarius]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

Im not streaming everyday, casual, just for fun, and im doing it in 720 p usually :))

[AntonioMarius]

6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

so i think the 3600 one is still ok saving a little bit of money for a better gpu =))

[Freohr]

7 minutes ago, AntonioMarius said:

Will it be good with the motherboard that the cpu comes with ? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-ROG-X570-F-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07TLM9YHL/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B07TLM9YHL

 Or are there cheaper ones that are the same? Thanks for the help

This Mobo tier list is good for checking how good they are:

 

That mobo is in tier A an is perfectly fine for your usecase, maybe even a bit overkill

[boggy77]

I'd get this if it fits your budget

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£259.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	£249.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£178.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£129.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£54.43 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS Video Card	£1056.01 @ Amazon UK
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	£88.65 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	BitFenix Whisper M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£89.99 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan	ARCTIC P14 PWM PST (5-pack) 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fans	£32.56 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2230.57
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-25 18:10 GMT+0000

 

[AntonioMarius]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

I'd get this if it fits your budget

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£259.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	£249.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£178.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£129.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£54.43 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS Video Card	£1056.01 @ Amazon UK
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	£88.65 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	BitFenix Whisper M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£89.99 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan	ARCTIC P14 PWM PST (5-pack) 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fans	£32.56 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2230.57
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-25 18:10 GMT+0000

 

It does yes , its perfect And i will have some money for a monitor as well haha :d thanks a lot, one sec let me put em in the basket

[boggy77]

added a nice monitor as well

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£259.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	£249.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£178.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£129.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£54.43 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS Video Card	£1056.01 @ Amazon UK
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	£88.65 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	BitFenix Whisper M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£89.99 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan	ARCTIC P14 PWM PST (5-pack) 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fans	£32.56 @ Amazon UK
Monitor	Philips 345B1C/00 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor	£429.99 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2660.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-25 18:17 GMT+0000

 

[AntonioMarius]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

added a nice monitor as well

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£259.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	£249.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£178.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£129.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£54.43 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS Video Card	£1056.01 @ Amazon UK
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	£88.65 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	BitFenix Whisper M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£89.99 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan	ARCTIC P14 PWM PST (5-pack) 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fans	£32.56 @ Amazon UK
Monitor	Philips 345B1C/00 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor	£429.99 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2660.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-25 18:17 GMT+0000

 

hey btw i think i will go with this one AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor (6C/12T, 35MB Cache, 4.2 GHz Max Boost) it is 155 pounds would still be good right? You are the expert here