9900KS and 5.0 GHz forever?

[PCDesignerRy]

So, I really feel like I should know this, but I don't so yay for learning. I now have a build with a running 9900KS and an H150i CLC. But, the processor still runs by default at 4.0 GHz. I've never done any overclocking and I feel like this should be relatively easy, but how the heck do I turn on getting this processor to start running at 5.0 GHz on all 8 cores all the time? I feel like I bought a Ferrari that I'm driving like I own a minivan and the whole appeal of getting the KS was for the 5.0 GHz all cores all the time. Sorry that I don't know this yet, but I'd like to learn how to do this. Especially since the difference between running at 4.0 and 5.0 GHz should be significant. 

As always, thank you for any time and knowledge you can afford me! 

 

[Fasauceome]

are you using task manager to see the frequency? Are you running a game while checking frequencies?

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, PCDesignerRy said:

So, I really feel like I should know this, but I don't so yay for learning. I now have a build with a running 9900KS and an H150i CLC. But, the processor still runs by default at 4.0 GHz. I've never done any overclocking and I feel like this should be relatively easy, but how the heck do I turn on getting this processor to start running at 5.0 GHz on all 8 cores all the time? I feel like I bought a Ferrari that I'm driving like I own a minivan and the whole appeal of getting the KS was for the 5.0 GHz all cores all the time. Sorry that I don't know this yet, but I'd like to learn how to do this. Especially since the difference between running at 4.0 and 5.0 GHz should be significant. 

As always, thank you for any time and knowledge you can afford me! 

 

If you run something like AIDA64 or any other streets test, does it turbo up to 5ghz? 5ghz is the turbo speed...

 

You can lock it at its turbo speed in windows via power management, but I would make sure it’s working correctly and boosting up when appropriate before you do that. 

[PCDesignerRy]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

are you using task manager to see the frequency? Are you running a game while checking frequencies?

So, I just yesterday night re-installed my OS and currently I only have a single 512 GB M.2 SSD running in the system. On the 6th I plan on getting 2 more 1 TB SSDs and will then start to re-install Steam and games and things, but, going into the BIOS of my motherboard, the processor shows to be running at 4.0 GHz. I know that I need to turn on an OC feature to move it to 5.0 GHz but have no idea where/how to do that as this is relatively new to me, but I am trying to research and learn. So far I haven't found the answer yet. 

[minibois]

6 minutes ago, PCDesignerRy said:

So, I really feel like I should know this, but I don't so yay for learning. I now have a build with a running 9900KS and an H150i CLC. But, the processor still runs by default at 4.0 GHz. I've never done any overclocking and I feel like this should be relatively easy, but how the heck do I turn on getting this processor to start running at 5.0 GHz on all 8 cores all the time? I feel like I bought a Ferrari that I'm driving like I own a minivan and the whole appeal of getting the KS was for the 5.0 GHz all cores all the time. Sorry that I don't know this yet, but I'd like to learn how to do this. Especially since the difference between running at 4.0 and 5.0 GHz should be significant. 

As always, thank you for any time and knowledge you can afford me! 

If you have a Ferrari, you're not driving through a small village at breakneck speeds. You slow down, according to what is possible and needed.

That is the same reason your CPU is not running a 5Ghz at all times. Why should it run at that speed if it's not needed? It should only run at 5Ghz when needed; such as in video rendering, 3D modeling, etc. (or while running a benchmark)

 

It doesn't run at full speeds at all times to conserve power and make sure the thermals are under control.

 

P.S. don't use Task manager to see frequency, use something like HWInfo64 or CPU-Z.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, PCDesignerRy said:

I know that I need to turn on an OC feature to move it to 5.0 GHz

no, you don't. The 9900KS runs at 5.0GHz by default when the CPU is hit with a workload. There's no way it would hit 5.0 in the BIOS though.

[Juular]

4 GHz are base frequency, 5 GHz are turbo frequency, it will show up only under load, not in BIOS obviously, load the CPU and see the frequencies in smth like HWiNFO64 (or at the very least Windows Task Manager). Now, your CPU doesn't even run at 4GHz when idle, it should scale down frequency to save energy, BIOS just probably doesn't use power saving at all but in Windows you'll see frequencies way lower than 4GHz in idle.

[PCDesignerRy]

2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

If you run something like AIDA64 or any other streets test, does it turbo up to 5ghz? 5ghz is the turbo speed...

 

You can lock it at its turbo speed in windows via power management, but I would make sure it’s working correctly and boosting up when appropriate before you do that. 

Well, so the appeal of the KS at least as advertised is that it can do single and multi-core processes at 5.0 GHz all the time which was what interested me in the first place. So in my mind, what I should be able to do is, when running absolutely nothing, and be sitting at the Windows Desktop, be able to see the CPU running at 5 GHz. Please feel free to correct me in any of this I don't know how this works yet  

[PCDesignerRy]

Ah ok I'm getting a better understanding of how it works now. Thank you all for your input! So it goes to 5.0 GHz when needed makes a lot of sense. I went from a 5960X to this processor and I'm wondering if this change will assist with gaming performance at all. So when needing to hit a 5 GHz speed, if the processor needs to do so, there is nothing I have to activate for it to be able to do that. 

[Constantin]

In Bios turn on Turbo Boost and multi core enchantment. 

[PCDesignerRy]

10 minutes ago, Constantin said:

In Bios turn on Turbo Boost and multi core enchantment. 

The BIOS on my motherboard sucks because it is MSI and pretty broken English, poorly designed, but I will definitely look for that. Thanks! 

[Constantin]

17 minutes ago, PCDesignerRy said:

The BIOS on my motherboard sucks because it is MSI and pretty broken English, poorly designed, but I will definitely look for that. Thanks! 

What is the motherboard?

[PCDesignerRy]

6 minutes ago, Constantin said:

What is the motherboard?

The MSI MEG Z390 Godlike

[Constantin]

Just now, PCDesignerRy said:

The MSI MEG Z390 Godlike

It is a pretty good motherboard. I am an Asus fan.

I bought my MSI due to the budget and find out that it is not that bad...

 

[PCDesignerRy]

Lol looking at a motherboard comparison chart: 'this one' - $170, 'that one' - $240, 'that one there' - $190, 'the Z390 Godlike' - $600. 

[PCDesignerRy]

Just now, Constantin said:

It is a pretty good motherboard. I am an Asus fan.

I bought my MSI due to the budget and find out that it is not that bad...

 

Which MSI board did you buy? 

[Constantin]

1 minute ago, PCDesignerRy said:

Which MSI board did you buy? 

 MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC

[PCDesignerRy]

1 minute ago, Constantin said:

 MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC

Does that have 1 or 2 M.2 SSD slots? It seems like every board should have at least two so you can actually utilize the speeds of an M.2 drive. 

[Constantin]

3 minutes ago, PCDesignerRy said:

Does that have 1 or 2 M.2 SSD slots? It seems like every board should have at least two so you can actually utilize the speeds of an M.2 drive. 

It has 2 M.2 Nvme slots

[PCDesignerRy]

Well now this motherboard cost me 0 because Amazon just refunded me for it without having to return it, so now I can get a new board. 

Sponsored by: Amazon.com lol literally

[LIGISTX]

2 hours ago, PCDesignerRy said:

Ah ok I'm getting a better understanding of how it works now. Thank you all for your input! So it goes to 5.0 GHz when needed makes a lot of sense. I went from a 5960X to this processor and I'm wondering if this change will assist with gaming performance at all. So when needing to hit a 5 GHz speed, if the processor needs to do so, there is nothing I have to activate for it to be able to do that. 

Thus is correct. You can put the windows power mode to high performance which doesn’t allow it to under clock, but this just pumps volts and thus heat through the chip for no real reason. Sitting at the desktop doesn’t need a 16 thread machine to be at 5ghz lol. That said, you can enable that, it doesn’t hurt anything. Just personal preference. Lower heat/electricity vs higher heat and electricity for no real purpose. Lol. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[RejZoR]

2 hours ago, PCDesignerRy said:

So, I really feel like I should know this, but I don't so yay for learning. I now have a build with a running 9900KS and an H150i CLC. But, the processor still runs by default at 4.0 GHz. I've never done any overclocking and I feel like this should be relatively easy, but how the heck do I turn on getting this processor to start running at 5.0 GHz on all 8 cores all the time? I feel like I bought a Ferrari that I'm driving like I own a minivan and the whole appeal of getting the KS was for the 5.0 GHz all cores all the time. Sorry that I don't know this yet, but I'd like to learn how to do this. Especially since the difference between running at 4.0 and 5.0 GHz should be significant. 

As always, thank you for any time and knowledge you can afford me! 

 

Processors run at lower clocks if it's not necessary. Sitting on desktop and it'll run at something like 1.6GHz, if you put work on it, it'll go to 5GHz.

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, PCDesignerRy said:

Well now this motherboard cost me 0 because Amazon just refunded me for it without having to return it, so now I can get a new board. 

Sponsored by: Amazon.com lol literally

umm, why did amazon refund you? you didn't say it was broken or anything

 

that's a good deal and all but seems that might cause trouble in the future

[Zberg]

4 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

no, you don't. The 9900KS runs at 5.0GHz by default when the CPU is hit with a workload. There's no way it would hit 5.0 in the BIOS though.

I dunno looking at their spec sheet its almost identical to the 9900K.  Base is higher, but turbo boost (listed as single core boost) is listed as 5.0.  Only one core can hit 5.0 from baseline.  I thought the whole thing with the KS was they were guaranteeing it COULD do 5.0 all core, but you still have to do an OC or enable MCE.

 

I might be completely wrong, it just looks like their website spec sheet lists it as single core only like the 9900k

[Zberg]

5 minutes ago, Zberg said:

I dunno looking at their spec sheet its almost identical to the 9900K.  Base is higher, but turbo boost (listed as single core boost) is listed as 5.0.  Only one core can hit 5.0 from baseline.  I thought the whole thing with the KS was they were guaranteeing it COULD do 5.0 all core, but you still have to do an OC or enable MCE.

 

I might be completely wrong, it just looks like their website spec sheet lists it as single core only like the 9900k

I take back my comment, I dont read so good