Posted February 25, 2020 If manufacturers can temporarily increase the clock speed of a GPU or CPU, why can't they just keep it at those clocks speeds all the time? Is the problem stability, power consumption, thermals? All of the above? Something else entirely? Also, could I overclock these to their boost clock speeds? (I don't have the cooling for overclocking, but I want to know anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, CreativeName642 said: Is the problem stability, power consumption, thermals? All of the above? Something else entirely? Mainly power consumption and thermal. One could argue degradation of the chips as well, but I don't think that would have been a large issue. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 They can. That's why the current "base clock" and "turbo" specs make no sense especially with Intel. F@H Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED GPD Win 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 Author Just now, Kilrah said: They can. That's why the current "base clock" and "turbo" specs make no sense especially with Intel. So then why to they do it? Marketing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 Yep... F@H Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED GPD Win 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, CreativeName642 said: hy can't they just keep it at those clocks speeds all the time? power budget, with ryzen its CPU degredation related, and the want to keep power even lower when not under load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kilrah said: They can. That's why the current "base clock" and "turbo" specs make no sense especially with Intel. what doesnt make sense about them? if anything its ryzen which doesnt make a lot of sense considering its high boost clocks really arent achieved during anything that can be described as a "workload" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 I mentioned my thoughts in that thread from there on: F@H Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED GPD Win 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 25, 2020 It's annoying because it badly affects the TDP of modern Laptops IMO. Builders end up designing the cooling for the base clock and no headroom for the turbo speeds. I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 26, 2020 19 hours ago, CreativeName642 said: If manufacturers can temporarily increase the clock speed of a GPU or CPU, why can't they just keep it at those clocks speeds all the time? Is the problem stability, power consumption, thermals? All of the above? Something else entirely? Also, could I overclock these to their boost clock speeds? (I don't have the cooling for overclocking, but I want to know anyway) You can. It's called overclocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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