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What cpu wont bottleneck a 780 Ti?

I recently upgraded my old pc's gpu from a HD 6850 to a GTX 780 Ti for €75 (used).

But now I feel like my cpu has become a major bottleneck. It's a Phenom II X4 965.

I did kind of see this coming.

 

So I want to upgrade my cpu (so probably also mobo and ram) to something that wont bottleneck a 780 Ti that much.

What would be a good one? First gen Ryzen, intel 4000? I don't mind getting something used. I just need an idea for what kind of part.

 

1. Budget between €50 and €100

2. Mainly gaming and youtube.

3. I have 1 monitor, 1080p/60Hz. I'll probably get a second one at some point.

 

thanks for the help in advance :D 

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A ryzen 1700 or something like that would be fine. But maybe you just want something that you can keep for when you want to upgade that GPU. Maybe a 3600 and B450 motherboard + ram.

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You could get an used AMD FX 83X0 series like the 8300, 8320 or 8350. With a bios upgrade it would fit your motherboard.

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Anything 2ndGen Intel (4C8T) or better (3.2Ghz or better) is going to be twice as fast (perCore) or Faster,... than the x4 965 Core speeds,. or even FX CPU's on cheap motherboards, which are common for resellers to do to people...


And games will see those 2ndGen Intel Gains (or 1stGen Ryzen,..or better than those) differences because when a game only uses 1-4 cores,. you'd want those independent cores to be that much stronger for the game to utilize them and give off the most gains.


This is why people love per-Core (Single-Core tests) CPU strengths and performance.

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14 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

You could get an used AMD FX 83X0 series like the 8300, 8320 or 8350. With a bios upgrade it would fit your motherboard.

It will still bottleneck the GPU...

I have an 8 core FX system in my closet and it bottlenecks almost every GPU in modern games.

It would be fine for pre 2014 games.

It will bottleneck you in Final Fantasy XV,Assassin's Creed series since Unity,GTA V,Watch Dogs and more.

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21 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Anything 2ndGen Intel (4C8T) or better (3.2Ghz or better) is going to be twice as fast (perCore) or Faster,... than the x4 965 Core speeds,. or even FX CPU's on cheap motherboards, which are common for resellers to do to people...


And games will see those 2ndGen Intel Gains (or 1stGen Ryzen,..or better than those) differences because when a game only uses 1-4 cores,. you'd want those independent cores to be that much stronger for the game to utilize them and give off the most gains.


This is why people love per-Core (Single-Core tests) CPU strengths and performance.

The 2600K is still a good CPU if you overclock it to 4.8GHz and above.

This is an option i recommend.

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1 minute ago, Vishera said:

It will still bottleneck the GPU...

I have an 8 core FX system in my closet and it bottlenecks almost every GPU in modern games.

It would be fine for pre 2014 games.

It will bottleneck you in Final Fantasy XV,Assassin's Creed series since Unity,GTA V,Watch Dogs and more.

With the 780Ti that's like the 970 or 1060 3GB? There might be a small bottleneck, but everything would work fine, a lot better than with the Phenom.

An older i5 would also bottleneck and he'd need a motherboard too. 

Only something newer with 6+ cores would do good, but that has a price.

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2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

There might be a small bottleneck

That's not 2016 anymore,games now days utilize more CPU resources,

I tested my FX system with a variety of GPUs,with modern games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey you will expirience severe bottleneck,in the most CPU intensive areas you will get an average of 20 FPS - frustrating and unplayable.

That doesn't happen with the 2600K,

I recommend to just get the 2600K and overclock it to 4.8GHz and above.

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49 minutes ago, th4-0th4r-guy said:

First gen Ryzen

If you can find a motherboard, cpu and ram in your budget i would go this route.  This also gives you an upgrade path in a few years to drop a ryzen 3000 series cpu in it to stretch out the life a bit longer, as long as you find a solid b350 motherboard or better.

 

 

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Try finding used first gen Ryzen parts. I'll recommend a Ryzen 5 1600, or at least a Ryzen 5 1400. They go for around $50-60 on AliExpress with free international shipping. Try to find a CPU, Mobo and ram combo locally. There are many people upgrading to zen2, so try finding these combos locally.

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