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TOdom

I overclocked my CPU after watching a couple good old LTT videos, but after doing so, my BIOS still says it's running at the same speed and I'm getting the same scores in cinebench. What gives? In the pic, it shows that the BCLK is at 100mhz, so the 44x  that I've applied to it should give me 4.4GHz, but it says that it's only at 36x and 3.6GHz (stock) 

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Full system specs?

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Full system specs?

Sigh...

z370

i7 9700k

16gb corsair vengeance 3000

gtx 970

toshiba 256gb ssg

samsung evo 870 1tb ssd

aftermarket tower style cooler from coolermaster

 

Z370 supports overclocking

9700k supports overclocking

idk why any of this matters

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Important to know.

 

Now I know you are underclocking your CPU to 4.4ghz all core, since stock is 4.6ghz all core.

 

3.6ghz is the base frequency. In bios it always lists it at base frequency.

 

Use monitoring software like hwinfo64 to determine what it is actually running while you are in windows and stressing the CPU.

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4 minutes ago, TOdom said:

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the 9700k stock all core boost is 4.6 or 4.7ghz iirc, by setting it at 4.4 you are slowing down the cpu. 3.6 is the base clock and most bios will show that.

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Important to know.

 

Now I know you are underclocking your CPU to 4.4ghz all core, since stock is 4.6ghz all core.

 

3.6ghz is the base frequency. In bios it always lists it at base frequency.

 

Use monitoring software like hwinfo64 to determine what it is actually running while you are in windows and stressing the CPU.

Idk man, it came to me at 3.6GHz

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4 minutes ago, TOdom said:

Sigh...

z370

i7 9700k

16gb corsair vengeance 3000

gtx 970

toshiba 256gb ssg

samsung evo 870 1tb ssd

aftermarket tower style cooler from coolermaster

 

Z370 supports overclocking

9700k supports overclocking

idk why any of this matters

Hmm, I don't know much about the 9700k, but 1.200 volts seems.... pretty low. Are you adding any more volts to it? If not, its possible its just going #nope and not POSTING with your settings.

 

I have never seen a mobo just not apply the overclock. Either it does and crashes, then reverts settings and boots again, or it works (even if its not stable).

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Just now, xg32 said:

the 9700k stock all core boost is 4.6 or 4.7ghz iirc, by setting it at 4.4 you are slowing down the cpu. 3.6 is the base clock and most bios will show that.

So why has everything I've looked at say 3.6GHz and not a single mention of anything else

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2 minutes ago, TOdom said:

idk why any of this matters

When the engine in your car is making less power than it should, you have to know what kind of engine it is. What make/model/year/VIN can all tell a mechanic very importing things about the car. Like variances in bolt patterns, torque specs, electronic vs hydraulic control, etc. You not telling us what your system comprises of would mean we can not give helpful advice.

 

Perfect example? Your very issue as @Plutosaurus pointed out.

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Just now, TOdom said:

Idk man, it came to me at 3.6GHz

Or, what the others are saying..... Thats a good point, they are correct. lol. I didn't even think of that.

 

Is turbo boost turned off? When you say it came to you that way, what do you mean? Was it used? Did a friend build it for you?

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Just now, TOdom said:

So why has everything I've looked at say 3.6GHz and not a single mention of anything else

set everything to default, download hwinfo or hwmonitor, run a stress test and see if the core clock goes up. If you don't wanna do all that, just leave it on default and it'll run at 4.6.

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Why read the clock shown in bios when you could just boot the system and check the clock speed with other software?

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1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Hmm, I don't know much about the 9700k, but 1.200 volts seems.... pretty low. Are you adding any more volts to it? If not, its possible its just going #nope and not POSTING with your settings.

 

I have never seen a mobo just not apply the overclock. Either it does and crashes, then reverts settings and boots again, or it works (even if its not stable).

My man it came to me at 1.068 volts. I put it at 1.2 after watching an LTT vid. Intel on crack or???

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Just now, TOdom said:

My man it came to me at 1.068 volts. I put it at 1.2 after watching an LTT vid. Intel on crack or???

Define "came to me". 

 

Also, scroll down for list of turbo clocks for the 9700k. It is in fact 4.6 GHz all core boost.

 

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-9700k

 

What LTT video are you watching?

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1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Or, what the others are saying..... Thats a good point, they are correct. lol. I didn't even think of that.

 

Is turbo boost turned off? When you say it came to you that way, what do you mean? Was it used? Did a friend build it for you?

I mean this:

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1 minute ago, TOdom said:

So why has everything I've looked at say 3.6GHz and not a single mention of anything else

Download hwinfo64 and run cinebench.

 

It should reflect 4.4ghz (possibly 4.1, if there is negative offset for avx "auto" is -3)

 

 

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2 minutes ago, TOdom said:

My man it came to me at 1.068 volts. I put it at 1.2 after watching an LTT vid. Intel on crack or???

Reset the BIOS. It's possible if you bought used, that it had some other settings applied to it.

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Just now, LIGISTX said:

Define "came to me". 

 

Also, scroll down for list of turbo clocks for the 9700k. It is in fact 4.6 GHz all core boost.

 

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-9700k

 

What LTT video are you watching?

I was watching a really old one just for some reference voltages, just to make sure I wasn't gonna throw too much at it. Linus said stay between 1.2 and 1.4, but that was for a 6700k. Came to me as in out of the box, I threw it into my board, booted into the bios and these are the numbers I'm looking at with no changes

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2 minutes ago, TOdom said:

I mean this:

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3.6 is the base frequency, 4.9 is the single core boost frequency. When all 8 cores are loaded, it will run at 4.6ghz.

 

This is of course provided your cooling is adequate; 3.6ghz is just the guaranteed frequency at the listed TDP cooling solution of 95w.

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1 minute ago, TOdom said:

I mean this:

image.jpg

So you built the PC? That is a pic of the CPU box, that doesn't really answer any of our questions. lol.

 

If the BIOS has turbo turned off for some reason, it will only run at 3.6 max. That... is not normal though. It should boost up to the boost clocks I linked in the wiki page in my last post.

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1 minute ago, TempestCatto said:

Reset the BIOS. It's possible if you bought used, that it had some other settings applied to it.

Fairly certain it's new, it came in an i7 box with a "factory sealed" sticker on it

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Just now, Plutosaurus said:

3.6 is the base frequency, 4.9 is the single core boost frequency. When all 8 cores are loaded, it will run at 4.6ghz.

 

This is of course provided your cooling is adequate; 3.6ghz is just the guaranteed frequency at the listed TDP cooling solution of 95w.

How do I turn on this boost clock we're talkin about? (Complete OC noob btw)

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1 minute ago, TOdom said:

Fairly certain it's new, it came in an i7 box with a "factory sealed" sticker on it

Run cinebench with hwinfo64 running and report back results.

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1 minute ago, TOdom said:

I was watching a really old one just for some reference voltages, just to make sure I wasn't gonna throw too much at it. Linus said stay between 1.2 and 1.4, but that was for a 6700k. Came to me as in out of the box, I threw it into my board, booted into the bios and these are the numbers I'm looking at with no changes

O boy, no stop everything.

 

DO NOT USE AN OLD VIDEO FOR NEW CHIPS. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP EVERYTHING.

 

Now that that is out of the way, go find 9700k information. Overclocking is not something to just... do. It takes a lot of time and research. It can take 3-4 days to dial in a stable, safe overclock, with much trial and error. But definitely, 100%, never use a video for an unrelated chip. That video doesn't apply to a 9700k almost at all.

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Headphones/amp/dac: Schiit Lyr 3 - - Fostex TR-X00 - - Sennheiser HD 6xx

 

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