rtx2080 super will bottleneck overclocked i7 6700k?

[gilad]

i7 6700k overclocked to 4.5ghz-4.6 ghz will get damaging performance bottleneck with oc  rtx 2080super on 2k res?

 

[gilad]

10 hours ago, gilad said:

i7 6700k overclocked to 4.5ghz-4.6 ghz will get  damaging bottleneck with oc  rtx 2080super on 2k res?

 

 

[WereCat]

what do you mean with "damaging bottleneck"? 

[Princess Luna]

There's going to be some bottlenecking as 4c/8t has reached it's limits for today's AAA games but it's still adequate.

[gilad]

10 hours ago, WereCat said:

what do you mean with "damaging bottleneck"? 

my english is limited i mean high impact at performace 

 

[191x7]

21 minutes ago, gilad said:

my english is limited i mean high impact at performace 

 

It all depends on the game. The CPU might bottleneck the GPU in titles like the new Ghost Recon, Assassins Creed or Red Dead Redemption II.

[gilad]

10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

It all depends on the game. The CPU might bottleneck the GPU in titles like the new Ghost Recon, Assassins Creed or Red Dead Redemption II.

ohh fuck... never mind,buying a new pc

[191x7]

Just now, gilad said:

ohh fuck... never mind,buying a new pc

Don't get me wrong, the bottleneck simply means it will, in some cases, perform like an RTX 2070-ish card and that there might be framedrops or stutters from time to time.

it's not that bad, by any means not unplayable.

 

But if you already decided on upgrading, make sure the new CPU has at least 8 real cores or 6 cores + HT/SMT.

[gilad]

10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Don't get me wrong, the bottleneck simply means it will, in some cases, perform like an RTX 2070-ish card and that there might be framedrops or stutters from time to time.

it's not that bad, by any means not unplayable.

 

But if you already decided on upgrading, make sure the new CPU has at least 8 real cores or 6 cores + HT/SMT.

im getting ryzen 7 3700x or 3800x

[gilad]

10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Don't get me wrong, the bottleneck simply means it will, in some cases, perform like an RTX 2070-ish card and that there might be framedrops or stutters from time to time.

it's not that bad, by any means not unplayable.

 

But if you already decided on upgrading, make sure the new CPU has at least 8 real cores or 6 cores + HT/SMT.

it will be good to me to buy second gen ryzen 7 2700x and rtx 2080ti?

[191x7]

I can't recommend RTX 2080 Ti, the prices are stupid.

 

For 2k (1440p), the decent GPU options are the RX 5700 series (RX 5700XT a bit better than 5700) or the RTX 2060 Super up to RTX 2080 or 2070 Super.

2080 Super and 2080 Ti are more like 4K cards if you have money to burn.

 

As for the R7 2700X - it performs like an Ryzen 5 3600X in modern games, maybe a tiny bit better when streaming with the CPU.

R7 3700X or 3800X are far better choices, but they do cost almost the double of R5 3600 or R7 2700.

 

 

[gilad]

10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

I can't recommend RTX 2080 Ti, the prices are stupid.

 

For 2k (1440p), the decent GPU options are the RX 5700 series (RX 5700XT a bit better than 5700) or the RTX 2060 Super up to RTX 2080 or 2070 Super.

2080 Super and 2080 Ti are more like 4K cards if you have money to burn.

 

As for the R7 2700X - it performs like an Ryzen 5 3600X in modern games, maybe a tiny bit better when streaming with the CPU.

R7 3700X or 3800X are far better choices, but they do cost almost the double of R5 3600 or R7 2700.

 

 

ill go with 3rd gen ryzen thank you very much for your help 

[191x7]

1 minute ago, gilad said:

ill go with 3rd gen ryzen thank you very much for your help 

Which motherboard?

 

I'd recomemnd the MSI B450 Tomahawk Max.

[gilad]

10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Which motherboard?

 

I'd recomemnd the MSI B450 Tomahawk Max.

x570 f

asus strix 

[gilad]

10 hours ago, gilad said:

x570 f

asus strix 

because i need it for better oc 4+4+4 pins to the cpu

[Otto_iii]

19 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Don't get me wrong, the bottleneck simply means it will, in some cases, perform like an RTX 2070-ish card

Not exactly, CPU bottlenecks aren't a reduction in averages like going from a 2080S to 2070S with a 9900k/3900x, they're a sharp incline in stuttering/hitching and bad 1%, 0.1% lows. 

[Otto_iii]

4 minutes ago, gilad said:

because i need it for better oc 4+4+4 pins to the cpu

this will only effect you if you need NVMe 4.0 for content creation, huge file transfers, slightly faster loading times but usually not worth the cost, won't effect gaming performance (FPS) at all.  SSD over Sata connection is more then fast enough for gaming, NVMe 3.0 is overkill but nice to have. 

The Tomahawk or other similar MSI "MAX" boards are good enough in this regard. 
 

5 minutes ago, gilad said:

x570 f

asus strix 

You don't need a board that expensive to get x570 and PCI 4.0, which you likely won't use at all, feel free to get it if you want it but its likely not worth the cost at all, Prime x570-P or TUF x570-Plus is more then enough. 

 

 

[gilad]

10 hours ago, Otto_iii said:

this will only effect you if you need NVMe 4.0 for content creation, huge file transfers, slightly faster loading times but usually not worth the cost, won't effect gaming performance (FPS) at all.  SSD over Sata connection is more then fast enough for gaming, NVMe 3.0 is overkill but nice to have. 

i just want ssd for os and same softwares that need it and some games(rust and star citizen must get ssd)

 

[WereCat]

2 hours ago, gilad said:

my english is limited i mean high impact at performace 

 

in most games it will be perfectly fine

[flashiling]

2 hours ago, gilad said:

it will be good to me to buy second gen ryzen 7 2700x and rtx 2080ti?

don't buy a 2700x and a 2080ti.

my 2080 get's bottlenecked (only a little) in games like csgo where single core performance is important

so a 2080ti would make it a lot worse

[gilad]

10 hours ago, flashiling said:

don't buy a 2700x and a 2080ti.

my 2080 get's bottlenecked (only a little) in games like csgo where single core performance is important

so a 2080ti would make it a lot worse

so i need to go with 3700X? or 2080 super can work good with 2700x?

[Midnitewolf]

I am not sure why people get so wrapped up in the whole bottlenecking thing.  Even if your processor limits your GPU, you still get better performance from a higher end GPU.   Let's use this example from this website:

 

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i7-6700-3-40ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-6700-3-40ghz/ultra/ultra/-vs-?lang=en&currency=usd

 

I am using the OPs processor and comparing the fps of a 2080 Super vs 2080 Ti and here is what we come up with.

 

1080p - 2080 Super = 123.4 fps, 2080 Ti = 143.8 fps - Results:  2080 Ti offers 17% better performance

1440p - 2080 Super = 92.1 fps, 2080 Ti = 109.6 fps - Result: 2080 Ti offers 19% better performance

4k - 2080 Super = 54.5 fps, 2080 Ti = 65.8 fps - Result: 2080 Ti offers 21% better performance

 

My point is that when your looking to upgrade for better performance, your best bet is to not worry so much about bottlenecking but rather set a target performance level you want to hit then compare the options that allow you to hit it.  For example if your looking for a minimum of 60 fps at 4k then using the example above if you wanted to keep the i7-6700 processor, you would need to get the 2080 ti.  Option two would be to look at a processor upgrade and see what combination of hardware it takes get you get to 60 fps at 4k.  For example, a i9-9900k with a 2080 Super gives you 68.1 fps at 4k.  Then you can just do some simple math to determine if upgrading the Video card in your system to a 2080 ti makes more sense than buying a cheaper video card and upgrading your CPU and possibly MB.  Ultimately though, the bottleneck or lack thereof, whatever the case, ends up being meaningless because you get to the same place regardless.  

 

I am not saying don't consider bottlenecking at all, but I just don't think it deserves as much hard thinking as the topic ends up getting.  

[gilad]

10 hours ago, Midnitewolf said:

I am not sure why people get so wrapped up in the whole bottlenecking thing.  Even if your processor limits your GPU, you still get better performance from a higher end GPU.   Let's use this example from this website:

 

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i7-6700-3-40ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-6700-3-40ghz/ultra/ultra/-vs-?lang=en&currency=usd

 

I am using the OPs processor and comparing the fps of a 2080 Super vs 2080 Ti and here is what we come up with.

 

1080p - 2080 Super = 123.4 fps, 2080 Ti = 143.8 fps - Results:  2080 Ti offers 17% better performance

1440p - 2080 Super = 92.1 fps, 2080 Ti = 109.6 fps - Result: 2080 Ti offers 19% better performance

4k - 2080 Super = 54.5 fps, 2080 Ti = 65.8 fps - Result: 2080 Ti offers 21% better performance

 

My point is that when your looking to upgrade for better performance, your best bet is to not worry so much about bottlenecking but rather set a target performance level you want to hit then compare the options that allow you to hit it.  For example if your looking for a minimum of 60 fps at 4k then using the example above if you wanted to keep the i7-6700 processor, you would need to get the 2080 ti.  Option two would be to look at a processor upgrade and see what combination of hardware it takes get you get to 60 fps at 4k.  For example, a i9-9900k with a 2080 Super gives you 68.1 fps at 4k.  Then you can just do some simple math to determine if upgrading the Video card in your system to a 2080 ti makes more sense than buying a cheaper video card and upgrading your CPU and possibly MB.  Ultimately though, the bottleneck or lack thereof, whatever the case, ends up being meaningless because you get to the same place regardless.  

 

I am not saying don't consider bottlenecking at all, but I just don't think it deserves as much hard thinking as the topic ends up getting.  

i tested with my cpu i7 6700k and rtx2080 super and this is what i got:

Average 1080p Performance	135.3 FPS
Average 1440p Performance	101.9
Average 4K Performance	60.9 FPS

but my cpu can crash in games because bottlenecking? i saw you sent this but i want to oc my cpu 

[gilad]

10 hours ago, gilad said:

i tested with my cpu i7 6700k and rtx2080 super and this is what i got:

Average 1080p Performance	135.3 FPS
Average 1440p Performance	101.9
Average 4K Performance	60.9 FPS

but my cpu can crash in games because bottlenecking? i saw you sent this but i want to oc my cpu and ill get more performance?

 

[Midnitewolf]

10 minutes ago, gilad said:

i tested with my cpu i7 6700k and rtx2080 super and this is what i got:

Average 1080p Performance	135.3 FPS
Average 1440p Performance	101.9
Average 4K Performance	60.9 FPS

but my cpu can crash in games because bottlenecking? i saw you sent this but i want to oc my cpu 

I don't believe there is any risk of a crash.  Generally speaking with a bottleneck you only see a reduction in performance. Basically with bottlenecking either your GPU or CPU will reach 100% utilization and you will reach a maximum fps value, no more, no less.

 

For example lets say you upgraded to a 9900k and a RTX 2080 Super.  You would just see those numbers you listed increase.  You might for example see that now that the 2080 Super has a more powerful processor to work with, those numbers would be.

 

Average 1080p Performance 180 fps

Average 1440p Performance 133 fps

Average 4k performance 79 fps.

 

Basically because you have eliminated the bottleneck created by your processor, your GPU can now stretch its legs a bit more and give you overall better performance.  That is all that occurs.  Another way to look at it is if a Corvette with a 400 HP engine can go 180 mph then you change the engine to a 500 HP model, the Corvette can now go 200 mph.  Same principle.