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RTX 2060 - low fps gain compared to rx 470

Encore Leet
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hi, recently I bought rtx 2060 and I used it for gaming various titles at 1080p and everything was fine, everything still is "fine" - runs as new, but the issue is I started comparing directly rtx 2060 to rx 470 today and I got disappointed - in rdr2 with max settings (the settings slider moved to the right from ballanced to best visual experience), api vulkan, ran benchmark with exactly same settings and difference between rx 470 saphire 4gb and rtx 2060 is literally 10fps - 41fps avg on rx 470 and 52 on rtx 2060, also ran witcher 3 with everything maxed out on uber, nvidia hairworks etc etc, difference between rx 470 and rtx 2060 in 1080p is ~5 fps - rx 470 gets 38-42fps while rtx 2060 48fps, and now, my question is:

am I missing some drivers? maybe for gpu, maybe for mobo or anything? I feel like I have most recent drivers as I run windows updates daily & have newest drivers installed on geforce experience, or maybe the 2060 is just that bad?

also I ran some synthetic benchmarks - userbench and 3dmark and rtx2060 is getting almost 1.5-1.8x more score than rx 470, idk what's the issue

my setup is
ryzen 3700x, 16gb 3200mhz ram, rtx 2060 with +115mhz/850mhz OC | rx 470 with 90mhz on core OC

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Did you DDU in safe mode to do the GPU swap?

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Just now, Princess Luna said:

Did you DDU in safe mode to do the GPU swap?

no, I just rebooted and installed amd drivers

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5 minutes ago, Encore Leet said:

no, I just rebooted and installed amd drivers

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

uninstall your old drivers so that there's no conflict

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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14 minutes ago, Encore Leet said:

ran benchmark with exactly same settings and difference between rx 470 saphire 4gb and rtx 2060 is literally 10fps - 41fps avg on rx 470 and 52 on rtx 2060, also ran witcher 3 with everything maxed out on uber, nvidia hairworks etc etc, difference between rx 470 and rtx 2060 in 1080p is ~5 fps - rx 470 gets 38-42fps while rtx 2060 48fps,

Those are approximately 25% and 12.5% improvements, respectively. Not as large as I would have expected, but not negligible either.

 

Another thing to check: what's the max framerate your CPU can give you (i.e., by doing the opposite to a GPU benchmark and lowering all GPU-demanding settings)?

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43 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Those are approximately 25% and 12.5% improvements, respectively. Not as large as I would have expected, but not negligible either.

 

Another thing to check: what's the max framerate your CPU can give you (i.e., by doing the opposite to a GPU benchmark and lowering all GPU-demanding settings)?

 

54 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

uninstall your old drivers so that there's no conflict

 

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

Did you DDU in safe mode to do the GPU swap?

it seems  that dduing drivers fixed the issue, leftovers of amd drivers were the worst offender I guess, you can see everything on screenshots, screens in order:
rx 470 uber
rx 470 lowest
2060 lowest
2060 uber
2060 rdr2 ultra - this game is dirtbag
rx 470 rdr2 ultra

rx470_witcher_highest.png

rx470_witcher_lowest.png

2060_witcher_lowest.png

2060_witcher_max.png

2060bench.png

rx470.png

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Just now, Encore Leet said:

it seems  that dduing drivers fixed the issue, leftovers of amd drivers were the worst offender I guess, you can see everything on screenshots

Always something to keep in mind when switching brands, and it can even come into play when upgrading on the same side, even though Nvidia GeForce experience is meant to cleanse old drivers.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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6 hours ago, Encore Leet said:

 

 

it seems  that dduing drivers fixed the issue, leftovers of amd drivers were the worst offender I guess, you can see everything on screenshots, screens in order:

 

Now the differences are in line with expectations (and not through a reduction in RX470 performance :P) , so case closed it seems ;) 

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