Need help setting up a Secure (https) WebDAV Server

[Mnky313]

I am trying to set up a secure FTP server to share files with some friends but I wanted to not require everyone to use a client (like filezilla) to connect. I wanted to use just the windows explorer built in ftp connection but apparently that doesn't support FTPS or SFTP so I figured I would use swift (SFTP client that is is an addon to windows explorer) as the next best option but Filezilla's server only does FTPS not SFTP so when I try and connect it has some unknown command error (probably because it's a different protocol). What is the best way to set up a SFTP server on windows... Or is there a way to have a secure FTP server purely via the windows explorer ftp client?

[flashiling]

https://www.ixsystems.com/community/

this forum specializes in FreeNAS os and might be helpful if no help is found here

[Mnky313]

1 minute ago, flashiling said:

https://www.ixsystems.com/community/

this forum specializes in FreeNAS os and might be helpful if no help is found here

Ok, but the server that is hosting the FTP server is Windows, it's kind of an all purpose box.

[flashiling]

whelp guess i wasted some of your time then.

apologies 

[jj9987]

SFTP and FTPS are two completely different tools/protocols.

1) SFTP is based on SSH and uses that to connect. Windows includes OpenSSH, so just set that up, configure your SSH connections, directories, accesses and boom, done.

2) FTPS is just FTP with some security (SSL/TLS) on top of it. This requires some sort of FTP client and server, these are not built-in to Windows.

 

Another alternative - use cloud services (self-hosted or managed) such as Dropbox, Google Drive, Nextcloud.

[Mnky313]

Just now, jj9987 said:

SFTP and FTPS are two completely different tools/protocols.

1) SFTP is based on SSH and uses that to connect. Windows includes OpenSSH, so just set that up, configure your SSH connections, directories, accesses and boom, done.

2) FTPS is just FTP with some security (SSL/TLS) on top of it. This requires some sort of FTP client and server, these are not built-in to Windows.

 

Another alternative - use cloud services (self-hosted or managed) such as Dropbox, Google Drive, Nextcloud.

Ok, so I don't need a client for SFTP? (the built in ftp client in explorer can use SFTP?)
I only mention FTPS because that is what the Filezilla server uses, can you direct me to an SFTP server for Windows?

[Catsrules]

https://filezilla-project.org/

 

But that is FTPS.

[mariushm]

Filezilla FTP server allows you to do FTP over TLS (ftp, but communication is encrypted) :

 

You can choose to allow plain FTP connections or refuse any connection unless the FTP client supports TLS (knows about FTPS)

Filezilla FTP Client is super simple to use, basically like Windows Explorer ... don't understand why you wouldn't want people to use it.

They can drag and drop files just as they do in Windows Explorer, they just can't run files directly from FTP without downloading them completely before (as you would be able to do with Windows shares)

 

Still FTP is problematic especially if you guys are not all within the same network (if you're spread across several locations)

 

A very easy to setup system would be DC++ - you or someone sets up a DC++ server and forwards its port on the router so that everyone can connect it, and then you use DC++ clients (oDC, StrongDC++, whatever) to view the contents of other people's share and download stuff.

You can simply require everyone to use a password to connect to the server, or you can refuse the connections unless they're from a list of IP addresses.

 

You can download YnHub (dc++ server for Windows) from here: https://github.com/blha303/YnHub

and you have a guide here: https://www.rarst.net/software/direct-connect/

 

The transfers between you guys are not encrypted.

 

 

[Mnky313]

1 minute ago, mariushm said:

Filezilla FTP server allows you to do FTP over TLS (ftp, but communication is encrypted) :

 

You can choose to allow plain FTP connections or refuse any connection unless the FTP client supports TLS (knows about FTPS)

Filezilla FTP Client is super simple to use, basically like Windows Explorer ... don't understand why you wouldn't want people to use it.

They can drag and drop files just as they do in Windows Explorer, they just can't run files directly from FTP without downloading them completely before (as you would be able to do with Windows shares)

 

Still FTP is problematic especially if you guys are not all within the same network (if you're spread across several locations)

 

A very easy to setup system would be DC++ - you or someone sets up a DC++ server and forwards its port on the router so that everyone can connect it, and then you use DC++ clients (oDC, StrongDC++, whatever) to view the contents of other people's share and download stuff.

You can simply require everyone to use a password to connect to the server, or you can refuse the connections unless they're from a list of IP addresses.

 

You can download YnHub (dc++ server for Windows) from here: https://github.com/blha303/YnHub

and you have a guide here: https://www.rarst.net/software/direct-connect/

 

The transfers between you guys are not encrypted.

 

 

I already have a Filezilla server but it uses plain FTP because the explorer client doesn't do FTPS, I was trying to avoid seperate client because everyone complains about using multiple clients for things. I originally had a network drive that people could VPN into and map but everyone had a fit because it was annoying to have to connect to the VPN every time.
What is the benefit of DC++ over FTP if it's not encrypted anyway?
Is there a way to map an SMB network drive/share over the internet in a secure way?

[NelizMastr]

4 minutes ago, Mnky313 said:

Is there a way to map an SMB network drive/share over the internet in a secure way?

Yes, through a VPN. Otherwise, nope. SMB over the internet is possibly the worst possible thing.

[Catsrules]

I have never use this before but I have head good things about it .

 

https://filerun.com/

 

It is not FTP but uses http and I am guessing you can use https as well.

[Mnky313]

7 minutes ago, Catsrules said:

I have never use this before but I have head good things about it .

 

https://filerun.com/

 

It is not FTP but uses http and I am guessing you can use https as well.

looks promising, as long as I can get HTTPS working. I'll check it out.

[Mnky313]

It appears WebDAV is what I am looking for, but getting https working is being a real pain, plain http works fine but I cannot connect with https, even after attempting to set it up and adding bindings/certificate. Does it not work with Self Signed Certificates?
I am still trying to get it to work over https...