RTX 2080 vs 2070-Super?

[Gerr]

Considering the upcoming Black Friday sales, if you had around $600 to spend, would you go for a lower-end RTX 2080 or a higher-end 2070-Super?  And yes, I will OC them.  Eyeing an EVGA FTW3 2070-Super as the high-end 2070S, and will just see which 2080's go on sale this month.

 

To be used on a 1080p@144Hz monitor using Ray-Tracing as often as possible as my other system has a GTX 1080 Ti on a 1440p@165Hz monitor.

[Lmao No]

2070 super tbh and you don't even need to buy a higher end one. Founders edition or any dual fan model will do just fine, unless you absolutely want slightly lower temperature and less noise. Spend the remaining 100$ on something else you find that may interest you

[Turtle Rig]

6 minutes ago, Lmao No said:

2070 super tbh and you don't even need to buy a higher end one. Founders edition or any dual fan model will do just fine, unless you absolutely want slightly lower temperature and less noise. Spend the remaining 100$ on something else you find that may interest you

Espcially the fact he games at 1080p the 2070 will give you triple digit frame rates and be super fast.

[The Torrent]

12 minutes ago, Gerr said:

Considering the upcoming Black Friday sales, if you had around $600 to spend, would you go for a lower-end RTX 2080 or a higher-end 2070-Super?  And yes, I will OC them.  Eyeing an EVGA FTW3 2070-Super as the high-end 2070S, and will just see which 2080's go on sale this month.

 

To be used on a 1080p@144Hz monitor using Ray-Tracing as often as possible as my other system has a GTX 1080 Ti on a 1440p@165Hz monitor.

 This shows 2080 to be better, results subjective ofc.

But personally even if both had same performance id just go 2080 for little more bragging rights but thats just me as to most people 2080 sounds better than 2070 super which they will just think is like a superclocked version or something thats just me...#

 

Edit: If same price i forgot about price, otherwise just go whats cheaper.

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

 This shows 2080 to be better, results subjective ofc.

But personally even if both had same performance id just go 2080 for little more bragging rights but thats just me as to most people 2080 sounds better than 2070 super which they will just think is like a superclocked version or something thats just me...

Well the thing is he games at 1080p so a 2080 is a waste as that is a 1440p card.

[The Torrent]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

Well the thing is he games at 1080p so a 2080 is a waste as that is a 1440p card.

can you direct me towards what makes something a '1440p' card i've never understood that.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, The Torrent said:

can you direct me towards what makes something a '1440p' card i've never understood that.

Well its about frame rates.  Of course the 2060 or a 1060 will run at 1440p but with dismal results double digit frame rates and hope to get a sustained 60fps.  The 2070 is more powerful and the 1080p will dish out triple digit frame rates and if you wanna step it up a notch go 1440p but your frame rates you get at 1080p will drop and that may not be to your liking.  Put it like this if a 2060 gets 70fps the 2070 at 1080p will get 140fps.  Sure the 70fps will peak at times but it will fall back down to double digits.  The 2080 can handle the 1440p and give out 150fps and few drops to double digits.  The 2080Ti would give another 25 to 30fps more and the 2080 Ti is a 4k card,,, so playing at that resolution will yield triple digit frame rates in most games.

[Gerr]

Look at most newer AAA game benchmarks and most of them won't reach 144 FPS at 1080p on anything outside an RTX 2080 Ti.  So while a 2070S is overkill for 1080p@60Hz, but NOT for 1080p@144Hz!  On top of that, you generally lose 30-50% when you turn on Ray-Tracing.  So saying a 2070S is overkill for 1080p isn't true!

[The Torrent]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Well its about frame rates.  Of course the 2060 or a 1060 will run at 1440p but with dismal results double digit frame rates and hope to get a sustained 60fps.  The 2070 is more powerful and the 1080p will dish out triple digit frame rates and if you wanna step it up a notch go 1440p but your frame rates you get at 1080p will drop and that may not be to your liking.  Put it like this if a 2060 gets 70fps the 2070 at 1080p will get 140fps.  Sure the 70fps will peak at times but it will fall back down to double digits.  The 2080 can handle the 1440p and give out 150fps and few drops to double digits.  The 2080Ti would give another 25 to 30fps more and the 2080 Ti is a 4k card,,, so playing at that resolution will yield triple digit frame rates in most games.

i get that but what about when you add in raytracing.

 

1 - 2070s and 2080 are basically same performance overall, 2 frames a second aren't really going to make it form 1080p card to 1440p card is it really? If your basing the resolution from performance output.

 

2 - i dont think even a 2080s is gonna do 144hz 1080p with max raytracing...

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, Gerr said:

So saying a 2070S is overkill for 1080p isn't true!

It is.

 

Ultra settings are the only issue here, they bring little to no visual quality gain at the cost of a lot of performance.

 

You should watch this video:

 

Now if you insist you want 1080p144hz at ultra settings on Triple A titles then I'd argue in favor for the RTX 2080 Super Founders Edition straight from nVidia for the 699$ MSRP as a minimum and if not then straight to 2080 Ti's

[The Torrent]

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

It is.

 

Ultra settings are the only issue here, they bring little to no visual quality gain at the cost of a lot of performance.

 

You should watch this video:

 

Now if you insist you want 1080p144hz at ultra settings on Triple A titles then I'd argue in favor for the RTX 2080 Super Founders Edition straight from nVidia for the 699$ MSRP as a minimum and if not then straight to 2080 Ti's

we're talking about ray-tracing here. so your saying a 2070s can do max raytracing 144fps 1080p??

[Lmao No]

7 hours ago, The Torrent said:

we're talking about ray-tracing here. so your saying a 2070s can do max raytracing 144fps 1080p??

No existing card can. Also i hope OP realizes that RT is a gimmick and keeps it OFF

[Gerr]

My goal is at or near 144 FPS with non-RT games and at or near 60 FPS with RT games.

[melete]

3 hours ago, Gerr said:

My goal is at or near 144 FPS with non-RT games and at or near 60 FPS with RT games.

Both the GPUs you’re asking about are fairly similar (2080 is 6% or so faster) and will perform the way you’re wanting at 1080p, so get whichever you can find a good price for.

 

Some games like Metro Exodus and Assassin’s Creed will be tough to run at 144+ FPS. That’s just how they are. Settings tweaks help a lot in some of these cases, though. 

[Gerr]

I generally play at high settings, not ultra, and do follow various tweak guides.  100+ FPS is my target min w/o RT.

[Gerr]

I know that both cards will do what I need.  My question is if it's worth the a base model card and/or $100 extra for the 2080 over the 2070-Super?