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1 hour ago, jonnyGURU said:

Up to you.  I could just keep shouting out mistakes from my high horse.  ;)

if you pm me or juular an email one of us can add the rights inside google docs

 

but of course, highhorsing is a valid option if you prefer

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hey guys, I'm in need of some help again. 

so i bought this psu (Cooler Master MWE 700 White-v2, 700W 80 Plus ATX) to pair with a (MSI RADEON RX 570 ARMOR 8G OC) and Im getting crashes whenever i open something GPU hungry. So my question is, is that a bad psu or do i need to twik the settings on my GPU so it only consumes what i have? 

 

Also, i was looking at this one this morning

(NZXT C650 - NP-C650M-UK - 650 Watt PSU - 80+ Gold)  and if you guys tell me that is going to work i'll send CM back and get the NZXT instead. 

really appreciate any help please.

 

jonnyGURU what do you see from your horse mate???help

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@Marcelindd2Well, NZXT one is going to be miles better, especially if they have similar price but i don't see why RX570 wouldn't work with CM MWE V2 White. There's always a possibility that the PSU (or the GPU) is faulty but i'm more inclined to driver \ OC instability. Can you test this machine with the different PSU ?

Tag or quote me so i see your reply

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@Juular i did try it with CWT 500W ATX PSU, but no avail.

Also uninstalled all driver and tried fresh win10....still nothing.  

I ran occt to check a few things and it crashes every time it hits around 120/130w. So i really 

dnt know if its the GPU or PSU. no overclocking or third party software either.

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1 minute ago, Marcelindd2 said:

i did try it with CWT 500W ATX PSU, but no avail.

I.e it still crashes ? Then CM MWE V2 is probably not to blame.

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@Juular sorry for all the info there. if the CM is not the problem could u look at these screen shots plz. 

the second one was just before a crash.

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1 minute ago, Marcelindd2 said:

sorry for all the info there. if the CM is not the problem could u look at these screen shots plz. 

the second one was just before a crash.

Nothing out of ordinary. Did you buy this GPU new or used ? Also, please hide screenshots in the spoiler.

Tag or quote me so i see your reply

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1 minute ago, Juular said:

Nothing out of ordinary. Did you buy this GPU new or used ? Also, please hide screenshots in the spoiler.

sorry I dont know how to do that yet.

I got it on Amazon warehouse sale. 

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21 hours ago, Elisis said:

The reason for Multi Rail, especially with 1000W+ units is that the resistance for the PSU to detect a short is ridiculously low. This is a problem because the voltage is relatively low. So a faulty connector + the resistance on the board can give you enough resistance for the PSU to not detect the fault - which can then cause a Fire. You can see that in the Overclockers "Why Single Rail is NOT better" link. Because that is essentially what happened. A short that was not low impedance enough, combined with a 1600W Single Rail PSU...

 

Another example of the Problems that can happen is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h3HqqPOS_M

As an FYI:  That "test" was sponsored by beQuiet and mysteriously nobody since has been able to reproduce that test.  Even when insanely long and really thin wire has been used, SCP always tripped.

 

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2 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

As an FYI:  That "test" was sponsored by beQuiet and mysteriously nobody since has been able to reproduce that test.  Even when insanely long and really thin wire has been used, SCP always tripped.

 

 

I remember you talking about that back before when everything was going sideways about the tier list and the alarmists were all over the place banging their gongs...

 

That was interesting because that video was behind most of the issues from the beginning.. 

 

The problem with taking things at face value instead of looking deeper.

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On 10/23/2019 at 10:15 AM, LukeSavenije said:

Silverstone | Strider Gold S 1500w / Platinum PT <=850W - SX-G <=500W - SX-PT - Nightjar SXL / ATX (Platinum / Titanium)

does this line in the TIER A section include this PSU?

https://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=731&bno=13&tb=12&area=en

 

im having trouble reading how its formatted

cTurtle98 - Desktop

Spoiler

CPU: i7 7700k

COOLER: Thermaltake - Water 3.0 Extreme S
MOBO: Asrock z270 killer sli/ac

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200

SSD 1: Intel - 600p Series 1TB M.2-2280 (Windows)

SSD 2: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME (POP_OS)

GPU: MSI - GTX 1070

PSU: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Fully-Modular

CASE: Thermaltake - Versa H26

cTurtle98 - Portable PC

Spoiler

CPU: R5 1600

COOLER: NH-L9a-AM4

MOBO: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac

RAM: 16GB (2 x 8GB) Corsair - Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200

SSD 1: Intel - 600p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 (Windows)

SSD 2: 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" (Manjaro)

SSD 3: PNY - CS1311 120 GB 2.5" (POP_OS)

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB MINI ITX OC

PSU: HDPLEX 400 AC-DC DC-ATX Combo

CASE: NFC Skyreach 4 mini

 

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1 hour ago, cTurtle98 said:

does this line in the TIER A section include this PSU?

https://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=731&bno=13&tb=12&area=en

 

im having trouble reading how its formatted

Tier B, just gotta removed the wattage number from the model.

 

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MAIN PC:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor  Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi  CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2  GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra  RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15

Case: CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh PSU: Thermaltake GF1 PE 750w Storage: 1TB Western Digital Blue 3D + 1TB Crucial P1 + 1TB ADATA XPG Gammix S11 Pro + 4TB Seagate Barracuda 5400RPM OS: Windows 10 Home

Headphones: Philips SHP9500s   Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Cherry MX Red  Displays: Gigabyte M27Q (27" 1440p 170hz IPS), Samsung UN32EH4003FXZA (32" 768p 60hz TV)

 

SECONDARY PC:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-9100F Processor  Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4-CB  CPU Cooler: Arctic Alpine 12 CO  GPU: EVGA RTX 3060 XC RAM: ADATA XPG 16GB (2x8GB) 2400Mhz CL16

Case: CyberpowerPC Onyxia  PSU: ATNG ATA-B 800w 80 Plus Bronze  Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO + 2TB Seagate FireCuda SSHD 5400RPM    OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Former parts that I've used: Acer XG270HU, Asus Dual OC 2080, Gigabyte Aorus Master 3080, Gigabyte Gaming OC 3080, EVGA XC3 Ultra 3080, EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 Ti

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1 hour ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Tier B, just gotta removed the wattage number from the model.

 

Screenshot (129)_LI.jpg

 

Im building a hardware test bed for the computer repair shop i work for so that should be good enough 

cTurtle98 - Desktop

Spoiler

CPU: i7 7700k

COOLER: Thermaltake - Water 3.0 Extreme S
MOBO: Asrock z270 killer sli/ac

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200

SSD 1: Intel - 600p Series 1TB M.2-2280 (Windows)

SSD 2: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME (POP_OS)

GPU: MSI - GTX 1070

PSU: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Fully-Modular

CASE: Thermaltake - Versa H26

cTurtle98 - Portable PC

Spoiler

CPU: R5 1600

COOLER: NH-L9a-AM4

MOBO: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac

RAM: 16GB (2 x 8GB) Corsair - Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200

SSD 1: Intel - 600p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 (Windows)

SSD 2: 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" (Manjaro)

SSD 3: PNY - CS1311 120 GB 2.5" (POP_OS)

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB MINI ITX OC

PSU: HDPLEX 400 AC-DC DC-ATX Combo

CASE: NFC Skyreach 4 mini

 

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I've been looking at the Corsair RM 2019 PSUs. Sorry if I missed it, but does anyone know where they'd fit in this?

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Just now, Darkness_Val said:

I've been looking at the Corsair RM 2019 PSUs. Sorry if I missed it, but does anyone know where they'd fit in this?

They're the "RM Gray". They fit in single-rail Tier A

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@Bomster Either, really. But there's also ADX Power W750 for 20 pounds cheaper that uses the same platform as that Bitfenix unit except for probably cheaper fan or smth, Fractal Design ION+ with reportedly very soft and convenient cables and Corsair RM-x.

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Is the difference between Cooler Master MWE V2 Brozne (retails for 83$ at my country) and Gigabyte G750H (retails for 107.5$ at my country) worth paying 25$ extra?

 

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8 minutes ago, OhadL said:

Is the difference between Cooler Master MWE V2 Brozne (retails for 83$ at my country) and Gigabyte G750H (retails for 107.5$ at my country) worth paying 25$ extra?

 

Well, the Gigabyte GH is Tier A while the CM MWE V2 Bronze depends on whether it's 230V only (Tier C) or full range (110-240V/Tier B) The GH is 80+ Gold, so if you are using it for more than a few years, the price difference will pay for itself in terms of lowering your power bill, especially if power is a little expensive in your country.

It also depends on what you are powering. If you get the full range MWE V2 Bronze, it should be enough for a mid-range build.

MAIN PC:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor  Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi  CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2  GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra  RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15

Case: CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh PSU: Thermaltake GF1 PE 750w Storage: 1TB Western Digital Blue 3D + 1TB Crucial P1 + 1TB ADATA XPG Gammix S11 Pro + 4TB Seagate Barracuda 5400RPM OS: Windows 10 Home

Headphones: Philips SHP9500s   Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Cherry MX Red  Displays: Gigabyte M27Q (27" 1440p 170hz IPS), Samsung UN32EH4003FXZA (32" 768p 60hz TV)

 

SECONDARY PC:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-9100F Processor  Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4-CB  CPU Cooler: Arctic Alpine 12 CO  GPU: EVGA RTX 3060 XC RAM: ADATA XPG 16GB (2x8GB) 2400Mhz CL16

Case: CyberpowerPC Onyxia  PSU: ATNG ATA-B 800w 80 Plus Bronze  Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO + 2TB Seagate FireCuda SSHD 5400RPM    OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Former parts that I've used: Acer XG270HU, Asus Dual OC 2080, Gigabyte Aorus Master 3080, Gigabyte Gaming OC 3080, EVGA XC3 Ultra 3080, EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 Ti

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13 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Well, the Gigabyte GH is Tier A while the CM MWE V2 Bronze depends on whether it's 230V only (Tier C) or full range (110-240V/Tier B) The GH is 80+ Gold, so if you are using it for more than a few years, the price difference will pay for itself in terms of lowering your power bill, especially if power is a little expensive in your country.

It also depends on what you are powering. If you get the full range MWE V2 Bronze, it should be enough for a mid-range build.

Thanks, I think I will pick the Gigabyte G750H.

Another question, I saw on pc part picker that Corsair CXM (Tier C) (retails for 87$ at my country) got 5 out of 5 stars by 150 people.

Is the difference between it and the Gigabyte G750H (Tier A) that big?

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6 minutes ago, OhadL said:

Thanks, I think I will pick the Gigabyte G750H.

Another question, I saw on pc part picker that Corsair CXM (Tier C) (retails for 87$ at my country) got 5 out of 5 stars by 150 people.

Is the difference between it and the Gigabyte G750H (Tier A) that big?

Build quality wise, yeah. Gigabyte GH is LLC while the CXM is Double Forward. GH uses a ball-bearing fan IIRC while the CXM uses a sleeve-bearing fan.

PCPartPicker ratings are a little like Amazon reviews, worthless for the most part unless something is completely wrong.

 

MAIN PC:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor  Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi  CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2  GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra  RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15

Case: CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh PSU: Thermaltake GF1 PE 750w Storage: 1TB Western Digital Blue 3D + 1TB Crucial P1 + 1TB ADATA XPG Gammix S11 Pro + 4TB Seagate Barracuda 5400RPM OS: Windows 10 Home

Headphones: Philips SHP9500s   Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Cherry MX Red  Displays: Gigabyte M27Q (27" 1440p 170hz IPS), Samsung UN32EH4003FXZA (32" 768p 60hz TV)

 

SECONDARY PC:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-9100F Processor  Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4-CB  CPU Cooler: Arctic Alpine 12 CO  GPU: EVGA RTX 3060 XC RAM: ADATA XPG 16GB (2x8GB) 2400Mhz CL16

Case: CyberpowerPC Onyxia  PSU: ATNG ATA-B 800w 80 Plus Bronze  Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO + 2TB Seagate FireCuda SSHD 5400RPM    OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Former parts that I've used: Acer XG270HU, Asus Dual OC 2080, Gigabyte Aorus Master 3080, Gigabyte Gaming OC 3080, EVGA XC3 Ultra 3080, EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 Ti

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