Fear to buy an AMD vga again

[pstarlord]

@JoostinOnline

 

My Vega 56, nor my 5700xt have ever had problems with Nier.  

[JoostinOnline]

9 hours ago, pstarlord said:

@JoostinOnline

 

My Vega 56, nor my 5700xt have ever had problems with Nier.  

Oh please, that game couldn't even do proper full screen without a Special K injection.

[ReadyPlayerOne]

On 10/15/2019 at 12:37 PM, JoostinOnline said:

The stuttering is likely your monitor falling out of sync with the framerate then.

 

This is why I usually don't recommended 144hz monitors. If you're sensitive to stutters, then the only way to get a decent experience is by having a steady 144fps.   Try setting it to 60hz and enabling V-Sync.

I tryed but seems my monitor is not happy when i set it at lower hz, because when some game start it have weird artifact i don't have  at 144hz.

 

I'm playing at shadow awakening, it goes almost full fps because this game is pretty light, but sometime this game stutter too, i tryed also to limiting fps to 140 or even 60 but it stutter anyway, more than far cry new dawn that is more demanding, the only game i played that do not suffer from stuttering is metro redux 2033

 

At this point i really don't know what to do

[BTGbullseye]

1 hour ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

I tryed but seems my monitor is not happy when i set it at lower hz, because when some game start it have weird artifact i don't have  at 144hz.

 

I'm playing at shadow awakening, it goes almost full fps because this game is pretty light, but sometime this game stutter too, i tryed also to limiting fps to 140 or even 60 but it stutter anyway, more than far cry new dawn that is more demanding, the only game i played that do not suffer from stuttering is metro redux 2033

 

At this point i really don't know what to do

Radeon Settings > Display > Specs > Override > Adjust Voltage Swing/Adjust PreEmphasis

 

Try adjusting those settings. Are you using DisplayPort or HDMI? Try using a different cable.

[ReadyPlayerOne]

38 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Radeon Settings > Display > Specs > Override > Adjust Voltage Swing/Adjust PreEmphasis

 

Try adjusting those settings. Are you using DisplayPort or HDMI? Try using a different cable.

These 2 values are at 0 should i switch them to something else? i can set 0, 1 or 2

I'm using dp, i've already tried HDMI but that's the same

[JoostinOnline]

3 hours ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

I tryed but seems my monitor is not happy when i set it at lower hz, because when some game start it have weird artifact i don't have  at 144hz.

 

I'm playing at shadow awakening, it goes almost full fps because this game is pretty light, but sometime this game stutter too, i tryed also to limiting fps to 140 or even 60 but it stutter anyway, more than far cry new dawn that is more demanding, the only game i played that do not suffer from stuttering is metro redux 2033

 

At this point i really don't know what to do

Set it to 60hz, enable V-Sync, no frame limit. It sounds like you're getting tearing.

[ReadyPlayerOne]

1 hour ago, JoostinOnline said:

Set it to 60hz, enable V-Sync, no frame limit. It sounds like you're getting tearing.

Done but it's almost the same

[JoostinOnline]

5 hours ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

Done but it's almost the same

How is it different?

[bipolarsuxs]

Ryzen 5 2600 @4.2GHz

G.Skill RGB Trident 16GB @2133MHz (LOL)

Sapphire Rx 590 Nitro+ 8GB

MSI X470 Gaming Plus

Playing Gears 5 in 4K 40-60FPS on a 43in 4K TV because I don't own a monitor @60hz

[ReadyPlayerOne]

5 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

How is it different?

The stutter seem more quick to leave

[BTGbullseye]

13 hours ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

These 2 values are at 0 should i switch them to something else? i can set 0, 1 or 2

I'm using dp, i've already tried HDMI but that's the same

Yes, try setting to 1 on the voltage swing first. See if that stabilizes anything. 2 if it doesn't. If it still doesn't fix it, set it back to 0 and try the same with preemphasis. If THAT still does nothing, try both preemphasis settings with the voltage swing at 1 and 2. If none of that works, try another DP cable. These are basically the same symptoms I had when I installed my brother's RX 580, and used the DP cable included with the monitor. The only true fix was a new cable, and that removed the requirement for the adjustments I'm suggesting.

[ReadyPlayerOne]

15 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Yes, try setting to 1 on the voltage swing first. See if that stabilizes anything. 2 if it doesn't. If it still doesn't fix it, set it back to 0 and try the same with preemphasis. If THAT still does nothing, try both preemphasis settings with the voltage swing at 1 and 2. If none of that works, try another DP cable. These are basically the same symptoms I had when I installed my brother's RX 580, and used the DP cable included with the monitor. The only true fix was a new cable, and that removed the requirement for the adjustments I'm suggesting.

I will try it thanks.

With your brother pc you fixed first setting this 2 value, and then you restored to 0 and used another DP cable?

[BTGbullseye]

2 minutes ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

I will try it thanks.

With your brother pc you fixed first setting this 2 value, and then you restored to 0 and used another DP cable?

Yes. I had to wait a week for the cable to come in, so I used these settings as a stop-gap measure. I don't recommend using them long-term.

[ReadyPlayerOne]

10 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Yes. I had to wait a week for the cable to come in, so I used these settings as a stop-gap measure. I don't recommend using them long-term.

I had an aftermarket hdmi 2.0 cable and i've tryed with monitor at 60hz with and without v-sync but the issue it's still there

 

edit: i also tryed another monitor with 60hz standard panel tryed with and without v-sync and that's the same

[ReadyPlayerOne]

Surfing the web i'm reading the issue could be on ryzen cpu

[BTGbullseye]

3 hours ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

Surfing the web i'm reading the issue could be on ryzen cpu

Not sure how, unless there's some hardware instability, or a bad driver.

[Jon Jon]

Silly ask, but going back to the beginning of the thread, it doesn't seem like you installed the AMD chipset drivers, just the video card drivers.

 

I suggest you install the latest of those, and let us know if that helps.

 

I could see odd stuttering occurring without them, especially with the Ryzen specific tweaks in the most recent Windows 10 patch.

 

Another curiosity is the Crucial SSD. I do see stuttering here and there when using my 7200RPM HDDs for gaming, so I typically just run more demanding games on my M.2

 

I wonder what the read/write speeds are on that SSD, and if that is causing you to stutter in specific games.

[ReadyPlayerOne]

1 hour ago, Jon Jon said:

Silly ask, but going back to the beginning of the thread, it doesn't seem like you installed the AMD chipset drivers, just the video card drivers.

 

I suggest you install the latest of those, and let us know if that helps.

 

I could see odd stuttering occurring without them, especially with the Ryzen specific tweaks in the most recent Windows 10 patch.

 

Another curiosity is the Crucial SSD. I do see stuttering here and there when using my 7200RPM HDDs for gaming, so I typically just run more demanding games on my M.2

 

I wonder what the read/write speeds are on that SSD, and if that is causing you to stutter in specific games.

Thank you for joining the discussion

 

This is the download section of my mobo

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M%20Pro4/#Download

I see there is not amd chipsed drivers, but just the amd vga driver. Do i miss something?

 

The r/w speed of ssd are normal as it should be nothing more nothing less, the model of this ssd is bx500, not the best one i know, i've just noticed it slow down games alot when i.e. steam will update games while i play, but that's fine, i will upgrade with an m.2 next year, i don't think my issue is related to him

 

Just a little update, it's pretty soon to be sure, but as suggested somewhere on web, disabling things on bios like opcache cstate0 pstate1 and other cpu related stuff, had reduced a lot my microstutter, now they will drop faster and with less gap than before

 

Anyway i'm interested about amd chipset driver, because i think it's a problem if it is something different from amd gpu driver, i mean i don't see them in the download page

[Jon Jon]

1 minute ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

Thank you for joining the discussion

 

This is the download section of my mobo

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M Pro4/#Download

I see there is not amd chipsed drivers, but just the amd vga driver. Do i miss something?

 

The r/w speed of ssd are normal as it should be nothing more nothing less, the model of this ssd is bx500, not the best one i know, i've just noticed it slow down games alot when i.e. steam will update games while i play, but that's fine, i will upgrade with an m.2 next year, i don't think my issue is related to him

 

Just a little update, it's pretty soon to be sure, but as suggested somewhere on web, disabling things on bios like opcache cstate0 pstate1 and other cpu related stuff, had reduced a lot my microstutter, now they will drop faster and with less gap than before

 

Anyway i'm interested about amd chipset driver, because i think it's a problem if it is something different from amd gpu driver, i mean i don't see them in the download page

Please go to AMD directly and download the latest chipset drivers. Also download the latest video card drivers from AMD.

 

Depending on the game, HDD performance will cause stutters

[ReadyPlayerOne]

19 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

Please go to AMD directly and download the latest chipset drivers. Also download the latest video card drivers from AMD.

 

Depending on the game, HDD performance will cause stutters

I'm downloading it thanks

[ReadyPlayerOne]

1 hour ago, Jon Jon said:

Please go to AMD directly and download the latest chipset drivers. Also download the latest video card drivers from AMD.

 

Depending on the game, HDD performance will cause stutters

I've downloaded both latest gpu driver and chipset, i've DDU the oldest driver in safe mode, than i've installed newest one and the chipset, but the microstutter it's still there