Z87 SABERTOOTH

[bob345]

the z87 sabertooth is an awesome board. Its also awesome for really custom builds as it it quite easy to paint the thermal armor

[TheProfosist]

Yarp all ASUS TUF series boards are great even that B85 is quite interesting.

[TheProfosist]

Longer warranty is just marketing. Rog boards are using more layers of PCB if im not mistaken. TUF is marketing as well the armor just protects the motherboard a bit thats all into it. If you live in 45° ambient temps or 25° it's not going to effect your vrm stability it might make a difference when using 3930K's at 5.2GHz etc. When gaming vrm sits at dunno 50-60° so add another 20° that's still much lower than the max. Another note an ambient of 45° would mean your minimum water temp is 45° so you're going to need some beasty fans to keep the watertemp below the max temp a pump (50°?) can handle and most likely you're going to have to lower the overclock.

My bad sorry.

Its not just the armor that didnt even come till the Z77 sabertooth, go take a look at the page for the X58 sabertooth and come back.

[Guarrand]

I am still in doubt about gettign a Sabertooth or Hero ... or even the Sniper from Gigabyte ...

 

Sabertooth - I like the armor and i hear its pretty decent.. but i dislike the idea of loud useless small fans on it.

Hero - i like the looks/color and its advertised "for gamers" .. which i am. But i am not really going to OC alot...

Sniper - ITS GREEN!!!

[TheProfosist]

I am still in doubt about gettign a Sabertooth or Hero ... or even the Sniper from Gigabyte ...

 

Sabertooth - I like the armor and i hear its pretty decent.. but i dislike the idea of loud useless small fans on it.

Hero - i like the looks/color and its advertised "for gamers" .. which i am. But i am not really going to OC alot...

Sniper - ITS GREEN!!!

The small fans arnt useless and do serve a purpose. but you could always turn them down or even off (depending). Also there is always the option of unplugging them...

[8tE1GH7]

Can I run 2133 MHz ram on this board? Newegg say it only does 1866...

[Admire]

Can I run 2133 MHz ram on this board? Newegg say it only does 1866...

 

I really would look more into that....Its a quite confusing art to dismantle what they mean when they say DC-xxxx with different boards. Most of them will run 1866 or 2133 but run them like they were 1600. Thats at least what ive been told.

[flibberdipper]

Hell yes it's a good board. Thermal armor makes a little difference in mobo temperature, but nothing a typical consumer will notice. For most people, it's more for looks.

[TheProfosist]

Can I run 2133 MHz ram on this board? Newegg say it only does 1866...

It says this is the manual:

Also in the QVL in manual, pages 1-13 (27) though 1-18 (32), they list up to 2666 MHz compatible ram.

[TheProfosist]

I really would look more into that....Its a quite confusing art to dismantle what they mean when they say DC-xxxx with different boards. Most of them will run 1866 or 2133 but run them like they were 1600. Thats at least what ive been told.

yes the highest native speed for the memory controller on haswell is 1600 MHz.

Hell yes it's a good board. Thermal armor makes a little difference in mobo temperature, but nothing a typical consumer will notice. For most people, it's more for looks.

Its nice for other things as well but the main thing with eat I think would be for the non blower GPU's that heat wont go straight onto the MB.

[TheProfosist]

Would the Sabertooth be the optimal choice for having 3 GPUs and the CPU running at 85 degrees 24/7 in an enclosed silent case?

The Z87 wouldnt be optimal for running 3 GPU's in SLI corssfire, you might want to look at the X79. But yes it would be better ta that then a standard board but I would prefer to drop those CPU temps if possible.

[dizmo]

If you want to save some money or want a smaller form factor the Gryphon might be worth looking into as well.

[Admire]

It says this is the manual:

Also in the QVL in manual, pages 1-13 (27) though 1-18 (32), they list up to 2666 MHz compatible ram.

 

 

yes the highest native speed for the memory controller on haswell is 1600 MHz.

Its nice for other things as well but the main thing with eat I think would be for the non blower GPU's that heat wont go straight onto the MB.

 

 

Thats what I heard too. There are SO many people buying expensive rams that they can't even take advantage of.

[Faa]

Thats what I heard too. There are SO many people buying expensive rams that they can't even take advantage of.

Yes when you use more or faster ram you need a higher voltage on the memory controller. 1.1V was enough for 16GB and 1.2V for 32GB for SB's. The difference in temps when stresstesting is there so

[TheProfosist]

SLI or Crossfire is not necessary for use in applications other then gaming.

Then yet sure would be fine.

If you want to save some money or want a smaller form factor the Gryphon might be worth looking into as well.

I do agree with you there you can make quite a nice build with one of the and say a 350D.

Thats what I heard too. There are SO many people buying expensive rams that they can't even take advantage of.

Well that just means your overclocking the memory bus. Now really I wouldnt bother unless your doing a all out overclocking build, otherwise I usually stick with whatever the highest native speed is.

[TheProfosist]

Yes when you use more or faster ram you need a higher voltage on the memory controller. 1.1V was enough for 16GB and 1.2V for 32GB for SB's. The difference in temps when stresstesting is there so

you shouldnt need anymore voltage just to add more ram...

[dizmo]

Then yet sure would be fine.

I do agree with you there you can make quite a nice build with one of the and say a 350D.

Well that just means your overclocking the memory bus. Now really I wouldnt bother unless your doing a all out overclocking build, otherwise I usually stick with whatever the highest native speed is.

 

I'd be all over the 350d if it came in white.

[TheProfosist]

I'd be all over the 350d if it came in white.

paint it

[Faa]

you shouldnt need anymore voltage just to add more ram...

It's automatically done, thats why you see it running stable. I need 1.1V for 16GB 1866MHz where as this guy needs 1.20V (VCCSA voltage = memory controller voltage) with 58GB ram.

[TheProfosist]

It's automatically done, thats why you see it running stable. I need 1.1V for 16GB 1866MHz where as this guy needs 1.20V (VCCSA voltage = memory controller voltage) with 58GB ram.

Oh memory controller voltage thats makes a bit more sense. Also 58GB of ram

[ASUSTECHMKT]

So the does the "Thermal Armor" make a difference?

 

The assist fans actually do help the board its self has convection holes to allow airflow to go through the board it's self. This is aided when the assist fans are put in place. The additional airflow also helps to keep the VRM assembly and board cooler ( especially when overclocked or when using SLI. The degree it will assist really varies between the usage, ambient temperature and airflow within the chassis.

 

The fans are very good quality for 40mm fans and have control functionality with standard or silent profile they help to provide better cooling with no additional noise impact. As such it is a win win. If you really do not want to use them then of course you do not need to but it comes with the board already. Additionally in the same way the Thermal Armor is pre installed. If you do not want it you could remove it. You would also still have access to the thermal radar feature which gives you real time temperature information across the motherboard.

 

Hope this clarifies some of the questions regarding this.

 

Overall though I would focus on TUF if you want the long term warranty and the advanced monitoring. If not the Z87-PRO is less and will offer same quality and performance overclocking stability while also offering 802.11N wifi on board ( dual band with BT ). The Maximus VI Hero is also at the same price point and will actually offer even higher end on board components than the TUF.

 

Either which you cannot pick a wrong one in regards to quality or performance or even key functions and features ( like fan controls,or USB bios flash back or a multitude of other options ). Really it comes down to the features and functionality you want on the board.

 

Hope this helps and best of luck!