Posted August 7, 2019 Hi, Some people are telling me to just buy a new computer ( build ) and some are telling me to upgrade. What are your recommendation guys? My parts right now -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Motherboard: asus maximus vi formula Cpu: Intel i7-4770K 3.50Gz Gpu: gtx 970 sli psu: Cooler Master V1000 Ram: 16 gb Part :cml8gx3m2a1600c9, cml8gx3m2a2600c9 ssd samsung evo 250gb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 What is the intended use and result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, cHaTrAp said: Some people are telling me to just buy a new computer ( build ) and some are telling me to upgrade. What are your recommendation guys? My parts right now 6 minutes ago, 5x5 said: What is the intended use and result? I second this question, what is your intended use case as well as your desired result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, cHaTrAp said: Some people are telling me to just buy a new computer ( build ) and some are telling me to upgrade Why do either? Are you lacking in performance? The 4770K remains a competent CPU, SLI on the other hand is iffy. An upgrade to something like an RTX 2070 or an RX 5700 XT would do nicely in my opinion, if you're not seeing maxed out CPU usage in games. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Highly depends on what you plan on doing. If you only plan on 60FPS at insert res here then you've got good bones (4770K is still decent when overclocked), and a new GPU would help quite a bit. If you wanna do some higher refresh rate, something like 3000 series Ryzen and a GPU would probably be the ideal way to go. Main rig on profile VAULT - File Server Spoiler Intel Core i5 11400 w/ Shadow Rock LP, 2x16GB SP GAMING 3200MHz CL16, ASUS PRIME Z590-A, 2x LSI 9211-8i, Fractal Define 7, 256GB Team MP33, 3x 6TB WD Red Pro (general storage), 3x 1TB Seagate Barracuda (dumping ground), 3x 8TB WD White-Label (Plex) (all 3 arrays in their respective Windows Parity storage spaces), Corsair RM750x, Windows 11 Education Sleeper HP Pavilion A6137C Spoiler Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHz, 4x8GB G.SKILL Ares 1800MHz CL10, ASUS Z170M-E D3, 128GB Team MP33, 1TB Seagate Barracuda, 320GB Samsung Spinpoint (for video capture), MSI GTX 970 100ME, EVGA 650G1, Windows 10 Pro Mac Mini (Late 2020) Spoiler Apple M1, 8GB RAM, 256GB, macOS Sonoma Consoles: Softmodded 1.4 Xbox w/ 500GB HDD, Xbox 360 Elite 120GB Falcon, XB1X w/2TB MX500, Xbox Series X, PS1 1001, PS2 Slim 70000 w/ FreeMcBoot, PS4 Pro 7015B 1TB (retired), PS5 Digital, Nintendo Switch OLED, Nintendo Wii RVL-001 (black) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 I would get a newer GPU first. If you plan on playing 144hz+ and are getting issues maintaining FPS then get a newer CPU/mobo/RAM setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Author 26 minutes ago, fasauceome said: Why do either? Are you lacking in performance? The 4770K remains a competent CPU, SLI on the other hand is iffy. An upgrade to something like an RTX 2070 or an RX 5700 XT would do nicely in my opinion, if you're not seeing maxed out CPU usage in games. performance i guess, I want to be able to play the new games at 60 fps. I guess i will just upgrade my gpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Author 25 minutes ago, flibberdipper said: Highly depends on what you plan on doing. If you only plan on 60FPS at insert res here then you've got good bones (4770K is still decent when overclocked), and a new GPU would help quite a bit. If you wanna do some higher refresh rate, something like 3000 series Ryzen and a GPU would probably be the ideal way to go. tried to overclock but i am too afraid. feels like i am going to brake it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, cHaTrAp said: performance i guess, I want to be able to play the new games at 60 fps. I guess i will just upgrade my gpu. Only upgrade if you're lacking performance, that's the most important thing. If you upgrade when everything meets your standards you'll be disappointed. 2 minutes ago, cHaTrAp said: tried to overclock but i am too afraid. feels like i am going to brake it Nothing will break if you keep voltage low, just don't use any auto overclocking and you'll be safe. You spent extra in an overclockable CPU and fancy motherboard, all goes to waste if you don't overclock. What CPU cooler are you using? I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Author 11 minutes ago, fasauceome said: Only upgrade if you're lacking performance, that's the most important thing. If you upgrade when everything meets your standards you'll be disappointed. Nothing will break if you keep voltage low, just don't use any auto overclocking and you'll be safe. You spent extra in an overclockable CPU and fancy motherboard, all goes to waste if you don't overclock. What CPU cooler are you using? This : Watercooler - Corsair Hydro Series H100i - CW-9060009-WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Just now, cHaTrAp said: This : Watercooler - Corsair Hydro Series H100i - CW-9060009-WW this will keep your CPU nice and cool, you can likely achieve a very simple overclock to about 4.4GHz or so and not have to worry at all. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Author Just now, fasauceome said: this will keep your CPU nice and cool, you can likely achieve a very simple overclock to about 4.4GHz or so and not have to worry at all. i see, thanks for the help. I guess i will try overclock my cpu first i need to find some good tutorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Just now, cHaTrAp said: i see, thanks for the help. I guess i will try overclock my cpu first i need to find some good tutorial. there are many to choose from, especially for high end asus boards like the one you own. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Author Just now, fasauceome said: there are many to choose from, especially for high end asus boards like the one you own. Do you know any good tutorial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, cHaTrAp said: Do you know any good tutorial? This Der8auer tutorial should help, it's with an Extreme board but I imagine the formula looks really similar. But basically all you need to do is change the CPU clock speed to 4.4 and voltage to like 1.3 or something, should be good And as always, keep testing to get the voltage stable, so if you have it set to 1.3 volts try stress tests with 1.29, 1.28, etc until it's as low as it can without crashing. I prefer to use Aida64 to stress test my CPU. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 43 minutes ago, cHaTrAp said: tried to overclock but i am too afraid. feels like i am going to brake it You'd have to be a genuine idiot or extremely unlucky to break it. Protip for Haswell/Haswell refresh: If your cooling can take it, anything up to 1.35v vcore is fine to daily. Main rig on profile VAULT - File Server Spoiler Intel Core i5 11400 w/ Shadow Rock LP, 2x16GB SP GAMING 3200MHz CL16, ASUS PRIME Z590-A, 2x LSI 9211-8i, Fractal Define 7, 256GB Team MP33, 3x 6TB WD Red Pro (general storage), 3x 1TB Seagate Barracuda (dumping ground), 3x 8TB WD White-Label (Plex) (all 3 arrays in their respective Windows Parity storage spaces), Corsair RM750x, Windows 11 Education Sleeper HP Pavilion A6137C Spoiler Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.4GHz, 4x8GB G.SKILL Ares 1800MHz CL10, ASUS Z170M-E D3, 128GB Team MP33, 1TB Seagate Barracuda, 320GB Samsung Spinpoint (for video capture), MSI GTX 970 100ME, EVGA 650G1, Windows 10 Pro Mac Mini (Late 2020) Spoiler Apple M1, 8GB RAM, 256GB, macOS Sonoma Consoles: Softmodded 1.4 Xbox w/ 500GB HDD, Xbox 360 Elite 120GB Falcon, XB1X w/2TB MX500, Xbox Series X, PS1 1001, PS2 Slim 70000 w/ FreeMcBoot, PS4 Pro 7015B 1TB (retired), PS5 Digital, Nintendo Switch OLED, Nintendo Wii RVL-001 (black) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 Author @flibberdipper@fasauceome I overclocked my cpu to 4.3 voltage 1.29 couldn't get 4.5 and too scared to push the voltage more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, cHaTrAp said: @flibberdipper@fasauceome I overclocked my cpu to 4.3 voltage 1.29 That's a solid clock bump, any increase to game performance? If not, you know it's the graphics cards holding you back I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 8, 2019 Author 16 hours ago, fasauceome said: That's a solid clock bump, any increase to game performance? If not, you know it's the graphics cards holding you back I guess?, the last days I've been playing Final Fantasy XV. I could get around 57-68 fps with a random spike lag. First, I thought it was the VRAM that was causing the spike lags. so I overclocked my graphic card it helped a little but when I overclocked my CPU too, boom the lag was gone pretty nice. thanks guys for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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