Now I understand why I never went to AMD

[Turtle Rig]

Im getting no help with this issue with all the gurus here.  Firstly I am not a AMD guy and will never be after what weve been going through with stupid AMD mobo to set the proper RAM speed to 3200Mhz.  It is stuck at 2133Mhz and my mate tried 49 times to change the BIOS to show profile 1 at 3200Mhz and show it in the post and in apps like CPU-Z or Aida.  We tried Easy Tune and that does nothing.  I can choose profile 1 or disable XMP ,, we tried both nothing.  Also 2133Mhz is highlighted out and wont let us change to the speed of 32GB Ram Kit.

 

Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming and 2700x and 32GB Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz kit.  Now I see why I never touched AMD except for my Athlon XP processor 20 years ago lol.  AMD is horrible,  My old mans system we built 9900k with Gigabyte Elite mobo 3200Mhz RAM , on first post it was set to 3200Mhz and everything was great and we havent been in the BIOS just once or twice maybe.

 

Prove me wrong please help me fix his RAM speed to 3200Mhz because 2133Mhz just sux and that is not what I payed for.

[SOLO_AVENGER]

Why not set it manually?

[suchamoneypit]

Well AMD doesn't make the motherboards, the respective manufacturer does, and they are also responsible for their own mobo BIOS which is what you're having trouble with. In my motherboard it defaulted to 2133mhz but it took me seconds to manually increase my RAM speed to 3400 with matching voltage and thats what i've run for months. Your motherboard might need an overclock setting toggled on to let you manually set the RAM speed, which is why its grayed out. Hate AMD if you want but i think you're overreacting a bit.

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, SOLO_AVENGER said:

Why not set it manually?

It wont let us in the BIOS nor with Easy Tune it shows 2133Mhz highlighted out so we disable XMP and reboot and easy tun shows still 2133Mhz and highlighted out you can increase it.. wtf ya know,, we got nice 3200Mhz but were sitting at 2133Mhz sh*T.  So annoying.

[hotrob]

I encountered a bug in CPU-Z that showed my memory stuck at 2133mhz - did you check HWinfo64?

[SOLO_AVENGER]

I mean can't you set it manually in the bios? Not using xmp or easytune.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, suchamoneypit said:

Well AMD doesn't make the motherboards, the respective manufacturer does, and they are also responsible for their own mobo BIOS which is what you're having trouble with. In my motherboard it defaulted to 2133mhz but it took me seconds to manually increase my RAM speed to 3400 with matching voltage and thats what i've run for months. Your motherboard might need an overclock setting toggled on to let you manually set the RAM speed, which is why its grayed out. Hate AMD if you want but i think you're overreacting a bit.

Thanks for the response chief... The thing is we have tried everything in BIOS and now trying with Easy Tune and nothing its just stuck.  We disabled XMP and rebooted came back and still 2133Mhz highlighted out or greyed out as they say.  What should I do also the mobo is a Giga  x470 gaming ultra and ram is trident Z RRGB 32GB kit.  We got it once to 3200Mhz but the fan started throtttling so we set it back and now we can never get our 3200Mhz now,, just 2133Mhz,, its not rocket science he rebooted 49 times and tried everything in BIOS to no avail.

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, hotrob said:

I encountered a bug in CPU-Z that showed my memory stuck at 2133mhz - did you check HWinfo64?

Aida64 shows the same thing 3200Mhz........Easy Tune also shows 2133Mhz and greyed out.

[hotrob]

3 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Thanks for the response chief... The thing is we have tried everything in BIOS and now trying with Easy Tune and nothing its just stuck.  We disabled XMP and rebooted came back and still 2133Mhz highlighted out or greyed out as they say.  What should I do also the mobo is a Giga  x470 gaming ultra and ram is trident Z RRGB 32GB kit.  We got it once to 3200Mhz but the fan started throtttling so we set it back and now we can never get our 3200Mhz now,, just 2133Mhz,, its not rocket science he rebooted 49 times and tried everything in BIOS to no avail.

Did you try anything other than 3200? Maybe your IMC is sub-par - try something like 2666 CL17 and see if you can get anything above JDEC basic

[suchamoneypit]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Thanks for the response chief... The thing is we have tried everything in BIOS and now trying with Easy Tune and nothing its just stuck.  We disabled XMP and rebooted came back and still 2133Mhz highlighted out or greyed out as they say.  What should I do also the mobo is a Giga  x470 gaming ultra and ram is trident Z RRGB 32GB kit.  We got it once to 3200Mhz but the fan started throtttling so we set it back and now we can never get our 3200Mhz now,, just 2133Mhz,, its not rocket science he rebooted 49 times and tried everything in BIOS to no avail.

You are right, it isn't rocket science. You are doing something wrong. Simply rebooting will not change anything. You can't just reboot without changing anything and expect to get a different result. What do you mean "the fan started throttling" so you set it back? Your fans have got nothing to do with the RAM nor will they throttle as a reaction to your ram speed. Like I said, you should be looking in your overclock settings to find a setting that gives you control of things like CPU/RAM speed and voltage. As for EasyTune, its hot garbage at least when I used it when I had a 5820k, you shouldn't be using that. 

[SOLO_AVENGER]

When you say it's greyed out, do you mean in easytune or the bios?

6 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Thanks for the response chief... The thing is we have tried everything in BIOS and now trying with Easy Tune and nothing its just stuck.  We disabled XMP and rebooted came back and still 2133Mhz highlighted out or greyed out as they say.  What should I do also the mobo is a Giga  x470 gaming ultra and ram is trident Z RRGB 32GB kit.  We got it once to 3200Mhz but the fan started throtttling so we set it back and now we can never get our 3200Mhz now,, just 2133Mhz,, its not rocket science he rebooted 49 times and tried everything in BIOS to no avail.

 

[Salacious B Crum]

Are you using or did you use a software suite to overclock at all? What is easy tune is that gigabytes software suite if it is and you used it to try and set the ram ditch that crap, reset the cmos and start over in the bios there is a high chance you have some shit setting from that software crap hanging on causing a conflict there is no reason that your cpu should not support 3200

[TempestCatto]

Have you considered that perhaps your ram kit is bad, or that maybe your mobo is bad? Have you tried flashing your bios to the latest? Try maybe memtest86 as well?

[GoldenLag]

Set voltage of the memmory to 1,35v. Set 3200mhz and then timings. Either 16-18-18-36 or 16-18-18-38

[spartaman64]

maybe you can try manually setting the memory to 3200mhz with the system memory multiplier

[GoldenLag]

24 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Firstly I am not a AMD guy and will never be after what weve been going through with stupid AMD mobo

Im pretty sure you are referring to gigabyte board.

 

Also set the XMP setting manually. Like youve been told to do before in the last thread on the matter. XMP being "meh" combined with the not so great memmorycontroller and "meh" gigabyte x470 board. Its not great.

 

Still noone stopping you from trying other xmp settings with the kit.

[TempestCatto]

8 minutes ago, Caroline said:

As suchamoneypit said AMD doesn't makes the boards, but I've seen several threads about memory related issues, is this a normal problem with Ryzen? Looking to build a new PC so I'm reading everything I can about Intel & AMD

First gen Ryzen, yes. Second and third seem to not care what you throw at them, it'll work with whatever really.

[Salacious B Crum]

5 minutes ago, Caroline said:

As suchamoneypit said AMD doesn't makes the boards, but I've seen several threads about memory related issues, is this a normal problem with Ryzen? Looking to build a new PC so I'm reading everything I can about Intel & AMD

I'm not a fanboy but I do have 3 new AMD rigs as listed in my sig and I got in at launch of first gen Ryzen I went through the memory issues early on but all are rock solid and I would and will recommend a Ryzen build to anyone I have no beef with Intel with the exception that they have ripped off there base by overpricing because they could now the tables are turning and they have yet to convince me that they are willing to compete for my money

[paulmohr]

I thought you fixed this with ryzen master? Or am I thinking of someone else?

 

It honestly sounds like a defect with the motherboard or the ram modules. Have you tried using different ram? Or testing that ram?

 

Possible problems could be the ram is messed up and the motherboard can't see or use the xmp profile. Bios is screwy, or the board itself has a physcal problem.

 

These are the woes of building a system a yourself at your house and you have only one system and no spare parts. In a shop you have a bunch spare parts and other systems around. It makes it much easier to trouble shoot things. You could drop in different ram and see if that works, that would tell you if it was the ram, or some other issue. Or you could put the ram in another system. That would verify the ram is working correctly and its an issue with the board or the bios.

 

My suggestion would be to RMA the ram and get a different brand or something, or get slower ram so your not paying for a speed you can't get. I highly doubt you will notice the speed difference, but it sucks paying extra for something you can't get. I wouldn't be thrilled either.

Or RMA all of it and get an intel system if that is what you really want.

 

Personally I haven't used an intel cpu since 1999 or so and that was in a prebuilt system my mom bought me as a surprise for my 30th birthday or something. I think I have built 5 or 6 amd systems since then and never had any issue. I think I had bad ram twice and had to return it. Once with newegg and once with best buy. Neither gave me any hassles about returning it.

[Mister Woof]

You're not crazy, AMD systems are a little more fickle than Intel systems, as is evidenced by all the first gen RAM issues, third gen boost and voltage issues, etc., but I wouldn't let that discourage you from trying them out or having an open mind to them.

 

My AMD system does some weird shit sometimes, but overall it works well.

 

 

 

[Zberg]

1 hour ago, Plutosaurus said:

You're not crazy, AMD systems are a little more fickle than Intel systems, as is evidenced by all the first gen RAM issues, third gen boost and voltage issues, etc., but I wouldn't let that discourage you from trying them out or having an open mind to them.

 

My AMD system does some weird shit sometimes, but overall it works well.

 

 

 

Ya, it certainly is not the smoothest operation.  Fickle / finnicky is the best way to put it.  My 2600 system was extremely finnicky after build, had to fuck with things a bit, but I will say once it was stable, it has been money since then.  I cant say I have ever had to do anything at all with any intel or Nvidia products.

 

I did just have a pretty bad experience with my 3700x I got (so maybe im venting), but it's a dud processor, so I mean I can blame AMD, because it is their product, but that stuff does happen (to every company)

 

I will say, in terms of when I buy a product, I plug it in, it works like money and I still have the option to tinker if I want, the winner of that award goes to intel and Nvidia.  Almost everything I have gotten from them is a matter of "how much performance can I squeeze out" or "what can I do with what they sent me" and not "how do I make this work the way it is supposed to"...which tends to be the award that goes to AMD.

 

It reminds me of when linus did his best custom xbox video and made the custom modded 2070 xbox which was sweet...then when they hooked it up to TV they spent half their time in menus playing with settings to the point where he made a comment joking about this is why people dont like PC gaming (and it is how I have felt every AMD build so far, compared to their competitors).  There is something to be said about plugging things in and them working at spec.  It seems AMD tends to struggle with that a little more on average.  

 

 

[paulmohr]

Yet at the same time this thread posted someone else posted one with the same issue using an intel cpu lol. Maybe it got too close to an AMD system and it caught something? Sometimes shit doesn't work, welcome to the world of building PC's. 9 times out of 10 though its a defective part or someone did something wrong. Lord knows I have done my share of stupid things while messing with my computer.

[Deadsies]

Is that specific RAM on the QVL?

 

[vjizzle2384]

3 hours ago, Turtle Rig said:

Im getting no help with this issue with all the gurus here.  Firstly I am not a AMD guy and will never be after what weve been going through with stupid AMD mobo to set the proper RAM speed to 3200Mhz.  It is stuck at 2133Mhz and my mate tried 49 times to change the BIOS to show profile 1 at 3200Mhz and show it in the post and in apps like CPU-Z or Aida.  We tried Easy Tune and that does nothing.  I can choose profile 1 or disable XMP ,, we tried both nothing.  Also 2133Mhz is highlighted out and wont let us change to the speed of 32GB Ram Kit.

 

Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming and 2700x and 32GB Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz kit.  Now I see why I never touched AMD except for my Athlon XP processor 20 years ago lol.  AMD is horrible,  My old mans system we built 9900k with Gigabyte Elite mobo 3200Mhz RAM , on first post it was set to 3200Mhz and everything was great and we havent been in the BIOS just once or twice maybe.

 

Prove me wrong please help me fix his RAM speed to 3200Mhz because 2133Mhz just sux and that is not what I payed for.

So I’m guessing that bios update that I was talking about never helped because yesterday my computer was doing the same thing but mines an X470 Aorus Gaming 7 And with the new bios the F 40 it keeps resetting my ram but if I going to the bios it shows my XMP still on.   So I just manually inputted my 3000 MHz. I think it’s the bio so don’t worry about it till the update another bios, or downgrade the bios to one of the F30’s

[Mister Woof]

1 hour ago, paulmohr said:

Yet at the same time this thread posted someone else posted one with the same issue using an intel cpu lol. Maybe it got too close to an AMD system and it caught something? Sometimes shit doesn't work, welcome to the world of building PC's. 9 times out of 10 though its a defective part or someone did something wrong. Lord knows I have done my share of stupid things while messing with my computer.

I would say by and large, it has a lot to do with the fact that we are basically still on Skylake, so Intel has essentially just had more time for motherboard manufacturers and other hardware drivers to mature.