i7 3770k to Ryzen 3600 Upgrade

[SpookyCitrus]

20 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Things being dead on arrival are pretty rare, but it can happen with any component. As for the poor replacement that just sounds like an error on MSI's part that shouldn't have been sent out. Of course it shouldn't happen but things can slip through the net. No brand is perfect and you could dig up bad reviews for any component if you look hard enough.

I know and I completely agree, that's why I said I know there are working boards and they do have some great reviews, it's more of a personal thing and I don't want people to experience the same thing I and some others have had to experience with the Pro Carbons. 

[SpookyCitrus]

19 minutes ago, Precept said:

Ahhh OK. Different board the the x470 though

 

Either way B450 is a good shout just do some research in reliability and feature set. No need for x470 x570

Yeah the B450s have been great for Ryzen 3000 from what I've seen, the Tomahawk and the Mortar have been pretty well reviewed.

[Chri5]

10 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

I know and I completely agree, that's why I said I know there are working boards and they do have some great reviews, it's more of a personal thing and I don't want people to experience the same thing I and some others have had to experience with the Pro Carbons. 

Here's to hoping my msi b450 carbon arrives in decent shape then  the feature set seemed like it was worth $60 CAD more for me (wifi, bluetooth, m2 x2, more phase pwm)

[PurplDrank]

8 hours ago, Chri5 said:

I'm looking for some help with motherboards and my build in general. I'm not up to date on what ram works best with ryzen and if there is any real advantages to x470 or x570 over b450 motherboards. I have to buy from Newegg as I got a few gift cards from over the years so here's my parts list so far.

The last system I built for myself was in 2012 (specs in sig).

 

Budget is $1000 but less is better. I have a GTX 1080 that I'll be throwing into this system. I also have a potentially broken OCZ 850 Gold PSU or 2 EVGA 500w Bronze PSU's I can use with the system... might just get another gold psu.

 

ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Dual M.2, 12+2 with Dr. MOS Power Stage, HDMI, DP, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2 and Aura Sync RGB Lighting

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813119197?Item=N82E16813119197

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?Item=N82E16820231941

 

AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W 100-100000031BOX Desktop Processor

https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569?Item=N82E16819113569

 

Noctua NH-U14S, Premium CPU Cooler with NF-A15 140mm Fan

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16835608041?Item=N82E16835608041

 

Crucial P1 1TB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD - CT1000P1SSD8

https://www.newegg.ca/crucial-p1-1tb/p/N82E16820156199?Item=N82E16820156199

 

Firstly, welcome to the AMD team. I left the overpriced intel team a year ago and im so happy. The great thing about amd is the fact you get great performance at a great price with great options

 

An example? The MSI b450 tomahawk is an excellent ryzen 2000 series motherboard that is very capable of running your ryzen 3600. Not to mention it is cheaper than your x570 board. I have the tomahawk myself and will be upgrading to the 3700x very soon. 

[trevb0t]

For value's sake, the 3700X is top dog in my opinion. The price to performance is great. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKJtt6/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000071box

 

Solid B450/X470 options:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wb7v6h/asrock-b450-steel-legend-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-steel-legend

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy97YJ/msi-b450-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TWzkcf/gigabyte-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming

[Privatech]

On 7/12/2019 at 8:43 PM, SupaKomputa said:

wait whaaat?

M.2 SSD and SATA SSD are the same thing, but different interface, both are SOLID STATE Disk.

What I meant by that is not all modern motherboards have two or more M.2 slots which is the reason why I said get only one M.2 drive. Also M.2 and 2.5" are not the same becuase most M.2 drives can only get up to 3480 MB/s while 2.5" SSD drives can reach 6 GB/s or 6000 MB/s if we a re comparing by the number.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Privatech said:

Also M.2 and 2.5" are not the same becuase most M.2 drives can only get up to 3480 MB/s while 2.5" SSD drives can reach 6 GB/s or 6000 MB/s if we a re comparing by the number.

That is wrong.

 

M.2 is just the form factor. You can have standard SATA SSD's that come in this flavour i.e Crucial MX500. That doesn't make it any faster. You would need an NVMe M.2 SSD such as the Samsung 970 Evo Plus for that.

 

Also a 2.5" SSD doesn't reach 6000MB/s. They are usually around 550MB/s.

[SupaKomputa]

9 hours ago, Privatech said:

What I meant by that is not all modern motherboards have two or more M.2 slots which is the reason why I said get only one M.2 drive. Also M.2 and 2.5" are not the same becuase most M.2 drives can only get up to 3480 MB/s while 2.5" SSD drives can reach 6 GB/s or 6000 MB/s if we a re comparing by the number.

You need to study more about the m.2 and sata differences bro.

It's 3480 MB/s vs 6000 Mbps, it's a huge difference.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, SupaKomputa said:

You need to study more about the m.2 and sata differences bro.

It's 3480 MB/s vs 6000 Mbps, it's a huge difference.

There is no difference between M.2 and SATA apart from the way you connect it to your board. There is a difference between M.2 NVMe and SATA though. I assume that is what you meant, but just pointing it out.

[trevb0t]

9 hours ago, SupaKomputa said:

You need to study more about the m.2 and sata differences bro.

It's 3480 MB/s vs 6000 Mbps, it's a huge difference.

M.2 and SATA are not opposing things. That's what @lee32uk is trying to point out.

M.2 is a format of reader and IS a SATA reader. Often when you use an M.2 SATA drive, it disables a SATA port on the MOBO, because it's using it to read the drive. It is also capable of reading NVMe drives (PCIe), which operate much faster than SATA.

So what you're saying makes no sense. 

If you're referring to NVMe as M.2, then yes. It's faster. But there are M.2 SATA drives that operate at the exact same speeds as their 2.5" brothers. (as he gave the example of the MX500

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fgZFf7/crucial-mx500-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ft8j4D/crucial-mx500-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd1

 

They are the same drive in 2 different form factors.