Some custom RTX 2060 Super's are out, but...

[Tonberry]

I was surfing the internet to check and compare some custom model of RTX 2060 Super, there are ASUS and Evga and some others.

 

I don't have interest to talk about ASUS Evo model, I just can't swallow its ruined original value. Evga uses same cooler for 2060S as the normal 2060 uses.

 

What surprises me is the XC and even XC Ultra costs $50 more than RX 5700 with only 6-9% performance ahead the of the RX 5700. We know that the 5700 still no custom models yet, not even 2 fans custom cooler model which might can boost better.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-super-sc-ultra/

 

RX 5700 is a blasphemy for  RTX 2060 $uper. Good job by AMD!

 

What do you guys think?

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

We know that the 5700 still no custom models yet

somewhere around august-september, the reference isn't recommended, it's hot

[Tonberry]

10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

somewhere around august-september, the reference isn't recommended, it's hot

Yes. But I was looking for custom models on RTX side just to know what the custom market offers. The Evga XC/Ultra are actually quite good as they stay at 2060S M$RP as customs. But even with custom cooler, why they limit its performance to only less than 10% performance ahead the blower 5700?

 

Do you think it's a "good buy" or "good bye"?

 

Asus Evo? Ughhh!

Spoiler

https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/nvidia-rtx-2060-super

 

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

Do you think it's a "good buy" or "good bye"?

give it some time to settle prices first

[Tonberry]

9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

give it some time to settle prices first

Even the ASUS STRIX RTX 2060 Super can't give us significant advantages over the RX 5700 blower!

 

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_rtx_2060_super_strix_review,11.html

[driftz240]

18 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

somewhere around august-september

welp thats a disappointment, wonderin if i should just get the reference card and watercool it later...

[Blademaster91]

Yeah the 2060Super costs $50 more, yet you're getting a significantly better and quieter dual fan cooler.

When the 5700 AIB cards come out with aftermarket coolers you aren't going to be saving much over the 2060Super.

[porina]

Consider system cost when working out your performance value. Focusing on the card only tends to favour the low end.

[Tonberry]

12 minutes ago, porina said:

Consider system cost when working out your performance value. Focusing on the card only tends to favour the low end.

Im looking for this just to to know what we get on the market not to jump on it. As for me personally I don't aim at this price point.

 

I was just surprised. Some custom AIB decided to stay at original 2060S MSRP and limiting its performance. Why did they do that?

 

I wonder where the RX 5700 custom models will be priced. This will be tricky for AMD.

[porina]

15 minutes ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

I wonder where the RX 5700 custom models will be priced. This will be tricky for AMD.

AMD will decide how much they sell the GPU to the AIB for, but it is up to the AIB how they want to go from there. A lower cost card with compromises in cooling, or a high end card with great power and cooling, but you then have to pay more. The choices will be there for people to decide what they need most. 

[Tonberry]

10 minutes ago, porina said:

AMD will decide how much they sell the GPU to the AIB for, but it is up to the AIB how they want to go from there. A lower cost card with compromises in cooling, or a high end card with great power and cooling, but you then have to pay more. The choices will be there for people to decide what they need most. 

Idk what each people needs and the final decision is absolutely up to each person PoV, but from general prespective, seeing that the RX 5700 beat the Strix 2060 Super and also one MSI card in Battlefields V which Nvidia uses it to flaunt their RTX since the beginning, I feel sorry to NVIDIA this time.

[Tonberry]

Like I said in other post few days ago. The RX 5700 double-kills the RTX 2060 & Super.

 

Let's see about the custom RTX 2070 Super's

[LukeSavenije]

53 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

welp thats a disappointment, wonderin if i should just get the reference card and watercool it later...

yeah... of course no waterblocks yet either

 

maybe ask arctic if their accelero line has something compatible?

[driftz240]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

yeah... of course no waterblocks yet either

I think ek's will be out towards the middle of this month

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, driftz240 said:

I think ek's will be out towards the middle of this month

damn, that's quite fast

[Tonberry]

3 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

I think ek's will be out towards the middle of this month

I saw some in my local online stores. They costs 2/3 the card price itself. yay.

[MrTiC]

1 hour ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

I was surfing the internet to check and compare some custom model of RTX 2060 Super, there are ASUS and Evga and some others.

 

I don't have interest to talk about ASUS Evo model, I just can't swallow its ruined original value. Evga uses same cooler for 2060S as the normal 2060 uses.

 

What surprises me is the XC and even XC Ultra costs $50 more than RX 5700 with only 6-9% performance ahead the of the RX 5700. We know that the 5700 still no custom models yet, not even 2 fans custom cooler model which might can boost better.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-super-sc-ultra/

 

RX 5700 is a blasphemy for  RTX 2060 $uper. Good job by AMD!

 

What do you guys think?

In my country the  RTX 2060S is 50 to 100 euro more expensive then the RX 5700 XT

And the RTX 2070s is about 200 to 250 more expensive then the RX 5700 XT

[driftz240]

Just now, PotatoCanDo! said:

I saw some in my local online stores. They costs 2/3 the card price itself. yay.

Wait... your saying that you DONT LIKE to overpay for hardware, I love that shit 

[Tonberry]

Just now, driftz240 said:

Wait... your saying that you DONT LIKE to overpay for hardware, I love that shit 

Yep. I don't overpay stuff.

If you like to do it, then good for you, have fun..

[Tonberry]

5 minutes ago, MrTiC said:

In my country the  RTX 2060S is 50 to 100 euro more expensive then the RX 5700 XT

And the RTX 2070s is about 200 to 250 more expensive then the RX 5700 XT

Local pricing is weird and awkward.

[porina]

28 minutes ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

Idk what each people needs and the final decision is absolutely up to each person PoV, but from general prespective, seeing that the RX 5700 beat the Strix 2060 Super and also one MSI card in Battlefields V which Nvidia uses it to flaunt their RTX since the beginning, I feel sorry to NVIDIA this time.

I don't think nvidia have anything to really worry about. Performance per $ is only one part of the equation which does seem to get over-focused on this forum. In reality other differences also contribute to a buying decision.

[MrTiC]

Just now, PotatoCanDo! said:

Local pricing is weird and awkward.

Wel AMD's prices are always close to msrp here while nvidia's are waaaaaaaaaaaay above. And its always been like this

 

[Tonberry]

29 minutes ago, porina said:

I don't think nvidia have anything to really worry about. Performance per $ is only one part of the equation which does seem to get over-focused on this forum. In reality other differences also contribute to a buying decision.

They are a big company so yes they must to act like they doesnt have anything to worry about their competition with AMD in the most populated market which is the average consumer market.

 

Most of average consumers will be looking for the best value they can get.

 

Top end consumers will be throwing money like a boss which is the minority market.

 

Let's make people open their eye for what is the best they actually can get for what they need.

 

I'm posted this thread not to argue, not even a fan boy of one of both names. Just to make people realized that we have much better choices this time with Navi joined the list.

[porina]

11 minutes ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

Let's make people open their eye for what is the best they actually can get for what they need.

Even if performance per $ is the biggest factor, I have to say again, it needs to be considered at a system level, not card level. This is another common fault in analysis and looking only at the GPU will lead to bad value choices.

[Tonberry]

19 minutes ago, porina said:

Even if performance per $ is the biggest factor, I have to say again, it needs to be considered at a system level, not card level. This is another common fault in analysis and looking only at the GPU will lead to bad value choices.

I predicted most scenarios we will face ahead are still around what is the best gpu for 1080p high refresh rate or 1440p >60 for competitive and/or AAA games with some variations on the CPU in certain (mid) budget questions.

 

Regardless some people who need Raytracing, which GPU is the most worthy to get?

I predict the RX 5700 and XT will get the most vote.

 

But before that, lets see where the custom 5700/XT will be going, will they keep their value or destroy it (them).

 

Don't forget driver optimizations of Navi will make it even better if not screwed.