Founder Edition Better than Third Party Cards?

[d4n1Xd34th]

I heard from a video that founders edition cards are better and with better oc results as Nvidia keeps the best silicon for themselves? Is this true? 

 

Point of Consideration : RTX 2080TI FE VS MSI Gaming X trio RTX 2080TI

[WereCatf]

15 minutes ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

I heard from a video that founders edition cards are better and with better oc results as Nvidia keeps the best silicon for themselves? Is this true?

No.

[Daniel Z.]

No, they are generally worse.

[d4n1Xd34th]

4 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

No.

Heard it from a very reputable tech channel with 2m subscribers

[WereCatf]

1 minute ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

Heard it from a very reputable tech channel with 2m subscribers

I don't give a fuck even if they had a billion subscribers; it's not true and that's that.

[lewdicrous]

12 minutes ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

Heard it from a very reputable tech channel with 2m subscribers

Subscriber count does not equal credibility.

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, lewdicrous said:

Subscriber count does not equal credibility.

Case in point. Every major tech channel and their PSU recommendations

[lewdicrous]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Case in point. Every major tech channel and their PSU recommendations

A lot of large channels in general, tbh.

[d4n1Xd34th]

Channel name is Jayztwocents

[Daniel Z.]

10 minutes ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

Channel name is Jayztwocents

I generally like Jay, I doubt he said that. Could you send the video?

[WereCatf]

12 minutes ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

Channel name is Jayztwocents

Sounds to me like you've misunderstood something.

[d4n1Xd34th]

7 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

I generally like Jay, I doubt he said that. Could you send the video?

 

5 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Sounds to me like you've misunderstood something.

9:20 video is "PC Gimmicks vs Features... What do you REALLY need?"

[melete]

I've also heard (not sure if it's from Jayztwocents or elsewhere) that the Founders Edition GPUs are binned better than at least some AIB partner cards, but the Founders Edition cooling solution is generally worse. The idea being that the cooling solution doesn't matter if you throw a waterblock on the card.

[RejZoR]

Yeah, Founders Edition cards are generally binned better. Idea behind is, reference design is popular among water cooling crowd coz it's easier to get full cover blocks for single reference model than for countless custom designs. And if it's binned better when you slam the full cover block, it'll also clock higher as a result. And NVIDIA gets more money in their pockets since Founder Edition cards are only sold through NVIDIA directly.

[FarAwayFromTheSun]

RTX cards were better in FE editions than AIB when the launched.

[GoldenLag]

46 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Yeah, Founders Edition cards are generally binned better. Idea behind is, reference design is popular among water cooling crowd coz it's easier to get full cover blocks for single reference model than for countless custom designs. And if it's binned better when you slam the full cover block, it'll also clock higher as a result. And NVIDIA gets more money in their pockets since Founder Edition cards are only sold through NVIDIA directly.

 

49 minutes ago, melete said:

I've also heard (not sure if it's from Jayztwocents or elsewhere) that the Founders Edition GPUs are binned better than at least some AIB partner cards, but the Founders Edition cooling solution is generally worse. The idea being that the cooling solution doesn't matter if you throw a waterblock on the card.

I believe Nvidia also sells those binned chips to AiBs. 

 

Instead of partners doing inhouse binning. Nvidia now does it for them

[Mick Naughty]

It’s better in the looks department. 

They have the same gpu so it doesn’t matter to me. Chasing after some hz to gain a handful of FPS isn’t worth it to me. Not when the third party cards look so bad. Also hate the block availability. 

[melete]

8 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

 

I believe Nvidia also sells those binned chips to AiBs. 

 

Instead of partners doing inhouse binning. Nvidia now does it for them

They don’t sell those A chips anymore, but my impression was that FE are binned higher than the A chips are. 

[GoldenLag]

56 minutes ago, melete said:

They don’t sell those A chips anymore, but my impression was that FE are binned higher than the A chips are. 

Might just also happen behind closed doors. 

 

Or they went back to binning in-house

[SenKa]

FE cards are the highest of the highest binned chips, just below that are where AIB's start.

[melete]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

Might just also happen behind closed doors. 

 

Or they went back to binning in-house

Nvidia announced that they were ending A-die binning, I don’t think they were lying about that. More likely it had to do with improved yields or something Super related. AIB partners might do their own binning still. 

[d4n1Xd34th]

So who would win? An AIB RTX 2080TI with three blower fans or a FE card. 

[melete]

30 minutes ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

So who would win? An AIB RTX 2080TI with three blower fans or a FE card. 

Blower cards are enclosed single fan designs like the first one here.That triple fan card is an open air cooler, and there's a whole range of different ones. What were you thinking of?

[d4n1Xd34th]

Just now, melete said:

Blower cards are enclosed single fan designs like the first one here.That triple fan card is an open air cooler, and there's a whole range of different ones. What were you thinking of?

Specifically the Gaming X Trio from MSI

[melete]

1 minute ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

Specifically the Gaming X Trio from MSI

TechPowerUp reviewed that card and found that theirs was 6% faster than a FE.