How do I bring this build down from $535 to $500?

[tahmid10]

As someone who isn't knowledgeable on computers, I decided to get my build off of Bitwit's videos.

He made a $500 budget "Console Killer" build a while back that I'm going to follow:

 

CPU:  AMD Ryzen 3 2200G Processor with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079D3DBNM/?coliid=I307BAVYKOJU3X&colid=14UD8Y1I60XR7&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

GPU: PowerColor RED DRAGON Radeon RX 570  4GB https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-570-axrx-570-4gbd5-3dhd-oc/p/N82E16814131717?Item=N82E16814131717

 

Motherboard: ASRock MicroATX Motherboard (B450M-HDV) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVKWLQK/?coliid=I2BGESMSL7Z9EA&colid=14UD8Y1I60XR7&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

Ram: Team T-Force Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM 3200 (PC4 25600)  https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331029?Item=N82E16820331029

 

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822179010?Item=N82E16822179010

SSD: Kingston A400 2.5" 120 GB https://www.newegg.com/kingston-a400-120gb/p/N82E16820242399?Item=N82E16820242399

 

Case: https://www.newegg.com/p/1W8-006X-00005?Item=1W8-006X-00005

Power Supply: Corsiar CX Series 450W 80 Plus Bronze Certified https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTZ96RU/?coliid=I3GTU7EVFW70SH&colid=14UD8Y1I60XR7&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

I'm not a serious gamer on pc, but I want to be able to play games like Apex, Destiny and other online MMORPGS at the best quality possible with this budget. 

The reason I don't want to go too far past $500 is because I still need to buy Windows 10 (Should I really be trusting the offers for $30 off third-party sites? The retail $140 is expensive as hell) keyboard/mouse, a monitor and at least 30 ft of ethernet cable that can withstand the outdoors if I don't want to get a decent Wifi card that can reach my room upstairs.

 

Is there anything I can downgrade slightly to get closer to a $500 build from the current $535 while not having to sacrifice too much?

 

 

*Edit: Thanks for all the responses guys, I really appreciate your input!

[jerubedo]

One of two things:

 

Dial the RAM back to 8GB instead of 16, or, and this is what I would do, get rid of that HDD/SSD and get just a 500GB SSD for right now. You can always add more storage later.

[AntiTrust]

you could probably get ddr2666 or ddr3000 ram and shave off a few dollars. performance impact will be very minimal. Everything else is pretty tight. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

6 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

One of two things:

 

Dial the RAM back to 8GB instead of 16

You can also get slower RAM.

[Oalei]

Get 3 1200/3 1300X to shave a bit more dollars I mean you already have a RX570.

[Slayer3032]

Here's a deal on some ram and a medicore nvme, I wouldn't spend $45 on a new 1TB drive when you can pretty much pick them used up for free. I'd just save up and get something bigger in a few months if you need it. You can also find deals on far better 1TB SSD's for around $85 as well and completely forget the slow spinning disks.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3919656&Description=660p combo

 

There's so many ways you can make trade offs, deal hunting and trying to work those into your build will generally net the best results though.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?Item=N82E16820231941 - Cheaper ram

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853064 - Cheaper case

 

I'd check r/buildapcsales reddit for sales, it's usually extremely helpful but just remember if you search to sort by new and not the default which is enitrely useless.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/new/

 

Buy a windows 10 pro key off ebay for like $2, if it doesn't work buy a second.

 

I'd also suggest if you can somehow swing it, to forget the 2200G and try to get a 1500x,1600 or 2600. While the 2200g is dirt cheap, you're really not gaining anything from an APU that isn't that great of a quad core and isn't that great of a gpu. Any money you spend towards a better cpu will be worth it.

 

[mariushm]

Your profile says you're in Long Island NY. You may be close to a Microcenter, they seem to have 4 locations in New York - Google says 35 minutes by car to Westbury location :

 

Westbury
Yonkers
Flushing
Brooklyn

 

They have a in-store deal only, where you can get a Ryzen 1600 for 80$ and they also have some deal where you get 30$ off a motherboard if you buy it with a cpu in store.

 

80$ : Ryzen 1600 : https://www.microcenter.com/product/478826/ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

68$ : Gigabyte B450M DS3H AM4 mATX AMD Motherboard : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510208/b450m-ds3h-am4-matx-amd-motherboard

^ plus you may get 30$ off on this motherboard, the Ryzen 1600 is eligible

130$: PowerColor Red Dragon 4GB : https://www.microcenter.com/product/478703/red-dragon-axrx-radeon-rx-570-dual-fan-4gb-gddr5-pcie-video-card

 

and maybe you can get a good deal on RAM as well.

 

Also, the SSD is kinda weak, cheap but not great. Maybe spend a bit more like 33$ for a Sandisk SSD Plus as long as you're there : https://www.microcenter.com/product/465261/ssd-plus-240gb-mlc-nand-sata-iii-60-gb-s-25-internal-solid-state-drive

Uses MLC memory which has higher endurance (longer life) and the speeds should be decent as well.

 

At the end of the day you're getting a six core, 12 threads cpu for a price cheaper than the 4 cores / 4 threads of 2200g.

[Oalei]

13 minutes ago, mariushm said:

68$ : Gigabyte B450M DS3H AM4 mATX AMD Motherboard : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510208/b450m-ds3h-am4-matx-amd-motherboard

I wouldn't overclock a 5 1600 with this mobo. 

[Ravendarat]

I bought my windows key on ebay for like 8 bucks, worked perfectly fine

[mariushm]

7 minutes ago, Oalei said:

I wouldn't overclock a 5 1600 with this mobo. 

Who said anything about overclocking? Again, I'm talking about 80$ for Ryzen 1600 vs 87$ for 2200g  PLUS 30$ off when combined with motherboard.

Why would he bother with overclocking when he gets 2 extra cores and 6 threads (as 1600 has hyperthreading) already?

 

This aside, he can do some mild overclocking. The Ryzen 1600 is a 65w TDP cpu, the motherboard can handle even 95w TDP processors, and the VRM on the motherboard has some heatsinks on it, so a bit of overclocking won't cause the board to overheat. It's not a great motherboard, but if you're buying it for 68$ minus 30$ ... would you really care?

 

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($75.71 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Team - GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($45.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4 GB RED DRAGON Video Card  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.90 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Corsair) 
Total: $501.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-22 01:49 EDT-0400

 

 

Here you go. Get a grey windows key or run inactivated untill you can save that 1,46$.

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, mariushm said:

Who said anything about overclocking? Again, I'm talking about 80$ for Ryzen 1600 vs 87$ for 2200g  PLUS 30$ off when combined with motherboard.

Why would he bother with overclocking when he gets 2 extra cores and 6 threads (as 1600 has hyperthreading) already?

 

This aside, he can do some mild overclocking. The Ryzen 1600 is a 65w TDP cpu, the motherboard can handle even 95w TDP processors, and the VRM on the motherboard has some heatsinks on it, so a bit of overclocking won't cause the board to overheat. It's not a great motherboard, but if you're buying it for 68$ minus 30$ ... would you really care?

 

There is heatsink on it? Well that's good. Well tdp is for CPU and VRM doesn't really care about tdp? Well gonna check on that mobo. For price maybe but generally speaking how about no. 

[boey]

 

1 hour ago, jerubedo said:

get rid of that HDD/SSD and get just a 500GB SSD for right now. You can always add more storage later.

I'd personally do this, basically no performance loss and 500GB is more than enough to stall for time before you get a 1TB HDD.

[trevb0t]

Drop the barracuda. You're overspending anyway, since a 3TB Constellation can be had for literally $1 more. 

Grab a 480GB SSD and you can always throw an HDD in down the line.

Don't rape your parts to save a few bucks.

[Slayer3032]

1 hour ago, mariushm said:

Your profile says you're in Long Island NY. You may be close to a Microcenter, they seem to have 4 locations in New York - Google says 35 minutes by car to Westbury location :

 

Westbury
Yonkers
Flushing
Brooklyn

 

They have a in-store deal only, where you can get a Ryzen 1600 for 80$ and they also have some deal where you get 30$ off a motherboard if you buy it with a cpu in store.

 

80$ : Ryzen 1600 : https://www.microcenter.com/product/478826/ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

68$ : Gigabyte B450M DS3H AM4 mATX AMD Motherboard : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510208/b450m-ds3h-am4-matx-amd-motherboard

^ plus you may get 30$ off on this motherboard, the Ryzen 1600 is eligible

130$: PowerColor Red Dragon 4GB : https://www.microcenter.com/product/478703/red-dragon-axrx-radeon-rx-570-dual-fan-4gb-gddr5-pcie-video-card

 

and maybe you can get a good deal on RAM as well.

 

Also, the SSD is kinda weak, cheap but not great. Maybe spend a bit more like 33$ for a Sandisk SSD Plus as long as you're there : https://www.microcenter.com/product/465261/ssd-plus-240gb-mlc-nand-sata-iii-60-gb-s-25-internal-solid-state-drive

Uses MLC memory which has higher endurance (longer life) and the speeds should be decent as well.

 

At the end of the day you're getting a six core, 12 threads cpu for a price cheaper than the 4 cores / 4 threads of 2200g.

Microcenter has some really good deals, especially on Ryzen lately. It's never been an option to me since the closest one is roughly 1,000 miles but with the new Ryzen cpus launching in the coming weeks I'd really watch closely for deals if you can wait a little while.

[VEXICUS]

3 hours ago, tahmid10 said:

...

Here you go...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G  Video Card  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Deepcool - MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $475.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-22 03:58 EDT-0400

[boey]

4 hours ago, vexicus365 said:

Here you go...

 

 PCPartPicker Part List

 CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G  Video Card  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Deepcool - MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $475.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-22 03:58 EDT-0400

depending on the titles played a 2400g could perform better due to better single-threaded performance. 

[Boinbo]

5 hours ago, vexicus365 said:

Here you go...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G  Video Card  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Deepcool - MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $475.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-22 03:58 EDT-0400

you can get a used rx480 on Amazon for the same price, but better performance.

[tahmid10]

9 hours ago, mariushm said:

Your profile says you're in Long Island NY. You may be close to a Microcenter, they seem to have 4 locations in New York - Google says 35 minutes by car to Westbury location :

 

Westbury
Yonkers
Flushing
Brooklyn

 

They have a in-store deal only, where you can get a Ryzen 1600 for 80$ and they also have some deal where you get 30$ off a motherboard if you buy it with a cpu in store.

 

80$ : Ryzen 1600 : https://www.microcenter.com/product/478826/ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

68$ : Gigabyte B450M DS3H AM4 mATX AMD Motherboard : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510208/b450m-ds3h-am4-matx-amd-motherboard

^ plus you may get 30$ off on this motherboard, the Ryzen 1600 is eligible

130$: PowerColor Red Dragon 4GB : https://www.microcenter.com/product/478703/red-dragon-axrx-radeon-rx-570-dual-fan-4gb-gddr5-pcie-video-card

 

and maybe you can get a good deal on RAM as well.

 

Also, the SSD is kinda weak, cheap but not great. Maybe spend a bit more like 33$ for a Sandisk SSD Plus as long as you're there : https://www.microcenter.com/product/465261/ssd-plus-240gb-mlc-nand-sata-iii-60-gb-s-25-internal-solid-state-drive

Uses MLC memory which has higher endurance (longer life) and the speeds should be decent as well.

 

At the end of the day you're getting a six core, 12 threads cpu for a price cheaper than the 4 cores / 4 threads of 2200g.

Thanks for the advice, the Micro Center is pretty close and I've been there before, I just never knew they had their own deals (you learn something new every day)

The SSD is got is pretty cheap, but that's because I only planned on using the SSD for Windows, so I figured 120 GB was more than enough. I may invest in a better SSD since this CPU+Motherboard deal drops my cost to essentially $510. Appreciate your help man.

[VEXICUS]

14 hours ago, Boinbo said:

you can get a used rx480 on Amazon for the same price, but better performance.

I was suggesting all new parts...

[VEXICUS]

14 hours ago, _d0nut said:

depending on the titles played a 2400g could perform better due to better single-threaded performance. 

It won't affect much....

Again he'll get a better chip by going with the r5 1600.

6c/12t is again a bonus...

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