Ryzen 9 3950X (16-core). AMD copies Intel

[Turtle Rig]

Before y'all get excited settle down hehe.  The thread name is for the way their advertising their desktop flagship.  9900k Is not a gaming chip but is branded as one so all millions and milliions of gamers will buy the 9900k.  The 9900k is a video editing workstation, CAD, 3D photo editing DAW powerhouse.  There is no game that uses 16 threads.  8 threads yes.  No way your maxing out a 9900k to 100 percent usage while gaming.  The single performance is a selling point and sure it gives 10fps more in certain situations.  So in a attempt by AMD to gain customers and gamers on their new flag ship CPU that is not a gaming CPU is to brand it as one. 16 core CPU 32 threads ?  What game uses 16 cores ?  No game even uses 8 cores ?  AMD is copying Intel advertisement methods to gain a ton of customers.  Looks like gamers are the majority not consumers that use Adobe sh*T and office sh*T and what not lol.  Im not going to buy a 16 core if my mind set is gaming.  Even 8700k 6 core is just fine.  My rig still holds its own in my DAW, but I can imagine a 16 core would do.  I dont think I would need to upgrade ever lol, just upgrade video card once in a while.

[ThePD]

Programs have been using more cores each year. The same argument could of been said about the first dual cores and quad cores. The majority of people buying new CPUs are people who won't be using them for gaming. Does that mean AMD needs to create more families of CPU products to market to a 'gamer' over a power user? AMD is not copying Intel. Why would they copy a company who is in serious trouble in terms of future CPU launches? From what we have seen, the entire 3rd gen Ryzen lineup is going to be exceptional at gaming. There is no such thing as a 'gaming' CPU, because no CPU was designed to just play games.

The 3950X is going to appeal to somebody and AMD knows that. To be quite honest, that CPU appeals to me personally and will likely be in my computer come the 7th of July.

[Guest]

Oh ok.

[Princess Luna]

That's how marketing works Turtle.

[bimmerman]

What if I told you that the majority of desktop PC users are not gamers, either primarily or whatsoever?

 

Some folks will buy the CPU for gaming, and it's likely to do that great. Others, like me, might play a game once a month and don't care whatsoever about FPS numbers, but have many other reasons for buying a high end CPU.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, ThePD said:

Programs have been using more cores each year. The same argument could of been said about the first dual cores and quad cores. The majority of people buying new CPUs are people who won't be using them for gaming. Does that mean AMD needs to create more families of CPU products to market to a 'gamer' over a power user?

The 3950X is going to appeal to somebody and AMD knows that. To be quite honest, that CPU appeals to me personally and will likely be in my computer come the 7th of July.

I hear you.  Another way to put it is, people who are high end users will jump on lots of cores whether its called a gaming cpu or not. I would personally call it the worlds fastest desktop processor built for productivity and high end gaming.

[Zando_]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

 I would personally call it the worlds fastest desktop processor built for productivity and high end gaming.

Or... just call it a gaming CPU. KISS. 

[SupaKomputa]

For strategy + simulation games it will beneficial i think.

I like to try that with Cities skylines...

[Oalei]

Well I don't hear anything else from Computex except data center and E3 is like a bunch of benchmarks for GAMERS, IMO. Maybe it's just me tbh. 

[Mister Woof]

Gaming CPU in this context is like calling a Ford Raptor a Racecar....sure it's fast but that's not what it's built for. Half the features of it are wasted.

[FloRolf]

You do know "gaming" stands for

Great Accelerator Mark I Nano Guacamole 

Do you? 

[Vorg]

For games, you want raw clock speed more then core count. And the base clock speed seems like a likely indicator of what kind of sustained speeds you can expect. The 16 core has a lower base clock speed because it has so many cores in that small area, heat limits it. Looks like you have to go all the way down to one of the 8 core cpu's for the highest base speed. So seems it would come down to the 8 or 12 core with the 12 core giving an advantage in dealing with all those background  threads windows thinks it needs.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Turtle Rig said:

Before y'all get excited settle down hehe.  The thread name is for the way their advertising their desktop flagship.  9900k Is not a gaming chip but is branded as one so all millions and milliions of gamers will buy the 9900k.  The 9900k is a video editing workstation, CAD, 3D photo editing DAW powerhouse.  There is no game that uses 16 threads.  8 threads yes.  No way your maxing out a 9900k to 100 percent usage while gaming.  The single performance is a selling point and sure it gives 10fps more in certain situations.  So in a attempt by AMD to gain customers and gamers on their new flag ship CPU that is not a gaming CPU is to brand it as one. 16 core CPU 32 threads ?  What game uses 16 cores ?  No game even uses 8 cores ?  AMD is copying Intel advertisement methods to gain a ton of customers.  Looks like gamers are the majority not consumers that use Adobe sh*T and office sh*T and what not lol.  Im not going to buy a 16 core if my mind set is gaming.  Even 8700k 6 core is just fine.  My rig still holds its own in my DAW, but I can imagine a 16 core would do.  I dont think I would need to upgrade ever lol, just upgrade video card once in a while.

Your mind works very strangely. I can almost see the logic, but it's just out of my grasp.

 

We are at the point that AMD can win by outdoing Intel, in real or imagined scenarios.  All it takes is the consumer seeing a larger number than a competitor, regardless of what that number represents.

 

You're still waiting on your $2000 workstation CPU, so be patient.

[kiwibacon]

same argument was true when i bought my quadcore. no game uses more than 4 cores....