2700X or 2700? (Gaming)

[eb2k]

As the title states, I am building a new gaming computer and I would like to know which processor is the better deal for gaming. I have purchased all of my parts and left my CPU for last as I am a bit hesitant. I live in the US, so the price difference is around $80 and I am on a budget. Is the 2700x really worth the extra money? I plan on overclocking as I purchased a kraken x62. Thank you

 

Motherboard - ASUS x470 ITX 

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb 3200mhz

Drives - Intel 660p 1TB M.2 SSD

           - PNY 120GB SSD

GPU - EVGA GTX 2060

CPU COOLER - NZXT Kraken x62

Case - NZXT H200i

[Jurrunio]

Should have been hesitant enough to wait for 3rd gen and X570 boards from the start

[Lord Mirdalan]

I'd wait for 3000 series to launch, then pick up the 2700X for a better price.

[Ravendarat]

I was looking at the trends from when last time amd launches new processors between ryzen one and 2 and there was no real drop in price of 1st gen at time of launch of gen 2, it came much later. At least that’s what pcpartpicker showed

[eb2k]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Should have been hesitant enough to wait for 3rd gen and X570 boards from the start

Well clearly I wasn’t. So can you answer my question? Or are you just going to respond with criticism.

[Sorenson]

I would go with the 2700x. AMD self overclocks, so you will likely get higher clocks with the 2700x without  having to spend a lot of time tuning the chip.

[Jurrunio]

3 hours ago, eb2k said:

Well clearly I wasn’t. So can you answer my question? Or are you just going to respond with criticism.

Criticism because I'm being constructive. A month later both 2nd gen CPU will be previous gen, and unlike Intel you do get more benefits than just more cores (IPC goes up, memory controller and latency improves)

 

As for 2700X vs 2700, no need to pay more for the X chip. It runs faster by default but you can overclock to similar speeds yourself with the 2700 (tho single core speed will be a little worse). The cooler is also better, but nowhere near $80 better.

[xg32]

return the motherboard if you can, otherwise the 2700 should be good enough unless prices are within 20usd. 3000 series is a huge leap.

[Oalei]

I would pay less and have more headroom for voltage because ryzen is very good with it's own overclocking don't need to be oc'd, iirc. 

[eb2k]

6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Criticism because I'm being constructive. A month later both 2nd gen CPU will be previous gen, and unlike Intel you do get more benefits than just more cores (IPC goes up, memory controller and latency improves)

 

As for 2700X vs 2700, no need to pay more for the X chip. It runs faster by default but you can overclock to similar speeds yourself with the 2700 (tho single core speed will be a little worse). The cooler is also better, but nowhere near $80 better.

Thank you, ideally I would return my motherboard and get the new Ryzens. But I’m afraid its a little too late for that. I will probably upgrade in the future however. But as for now I will be buying the 2700 and overclocking it. What exactly do you mean by slower single core speeds? Ive seen overclocks on the 2700 get to 4.2 on all cores.

[Jurrunio]

41 minutes ago, eb2k said:

Thank you, ideally I would return my motherboard and get the new Ryzens. But I’m afraid its a little too late for that. I will probably upgrade in the future however. But as for now I will be buying the 2700 and overclocking it. What exactly do you mean by slower single core speeds? Ive seen overclocks on the 2700 get to 4.2 on all cores.

2700X can do 4.35GHz single core. 

[nick name]

43 minutes ago, eb2k said:

Thank you, ideally I would return my motherboard and get the new Ryzens. But I’m afraid its a little too late for that. I will probably upgrade in the future however. But as for now I will be buying the 2700 and overclocking it. What exactly do you mean by slower single core speeds? Ive seen overclocks on the 2700 get to 4.2 on all cores.

What they mean is if you overclock then that is your highest speed under all loads.  If you don't set a manual overclock then a 2700X will get up to 4.25GHz, 4.3GHz, 4.35GHz depending on how many cores its using.  

[Lord Mirdalan]

On 6/7/2019 at 11:16 PM, Ravendarat said:

I was looking at the trends from when last time amd launches new processors between ryzen one and 2 and there was no real drop in price of 1st gen at time of launch of gen 2, it came much later. At least that’s what pcpartpicker showed

I was thinking more the used market... Lots of people will buy new chips, and may recoup some of the cost by selling their previous hardware.

[Gorgon]

On 6/8/2019 at 1:15 AM, eb2k said:

As the title states, I am building a new gaming computer and I would like to know which processor is the better deal for gaming. I have purchased all of my parts and left my CPU for last as I am a bit hesitant. I live in the US, so the price difference is around $80 and I am on a budget. Is the 2700x really worth the extra money? I plan on overclocking as I purchased a kraken x62. Thank you

 

Motherboard - ASUS x470 ITX 

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb 3200mhz

Drives - Intel 660p 1TB M.2 SSD

           - PNY 120GB SSD

GPU - EVGA GTX 2060

CPU COOLER - NZXT Kraken x62

Case - NZXT H200i

I was facing the same decision and the 2700 was on sale here for $100 less so I got that. runs at 4.0GHz all cores but still working on the overclock.

 

As long as your willing to put the time in to tune in an overclock then you should be able to achieve similar performance to a 2700x especially with that AIO cooler on it.

 

I'm not certain but you may be able to improve single thread performance by using p-state overclocking.

[Stefan Payne]

On 6/8/2019 at 7:15 AM, eb2k said:

As the title states, I am building a new gaming computer and I would like to know which processor is the better deal for gaming.

Neither, get an Athlon 200GE as that is the cheapest Zen CPU. And you need that to flash the BIOS anyway.

Wait until next month and get a Ryzen 3600 or 3600X for the same amount of money as the 2700 but better...

[caldrin]

You could always sell the motherboard on ebay or something, sure you might be down a few $$$ but would allow you to get the new stuff.

 

Still if thats not for you then go for the 2700x.