How well do you think ryzen 3rd gen will overclock

[sallamby]

I recently watched an adoredTV video about 3rd gen ryzen overclocking and want to hear your thoughts, do you think 3rd gen ryzen can hit 5ghz?? I think its a long shot personally but who knows?

[Crunchy Dragon]

5Ghz on Ryzen is a bit of a long shot with reasonable voltage.

 

Now, if you were running 1.5v or higher, you could probably get to 5Ghz with relative ease on Ryzen, but that would require a pretty high end PSU, motherboard, and cooling.

[RobFRaschke]

AMD has thus far on Zen 1 and Zen1+ decided to run then much closer to their limit for a lot of very simple reasons, and several not so simple ones. However with their Precision Boost the overclocking in very basic ways is automated, so yay. To answer the question directly, no, I don' think that ambient cooling with hit 5Ghz. Chillers, maybe, phase change probably, LN2 of course.

[Stefan Payne]

4 hours ago, sallamby said:

I recently watched an adoredTV video

You should stop that...

 

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about 3rd gen ryzen overclocking and want to hear your thoughts, do you think 3rd gen ryzen can hit 5ghz?? I think its a long shot personally but who knows?

I don't want to speculate, we have to wait and see.

5GHz are in theory possible. The real question is what were the Design Goals for AMD.

The rumored 5GHz Special Editions can or can not happen but its unclear if it is existing silicon or if it will be made in a different process or be an optimized Zen2. 

 

At this time its not even clear if its made in TSMC's N7 or N7+...

And if its N7, its possible that the 5GHz Parts come in N7+ or even N6 or N5...

[nick name]

Leaks have said 5GHz requires too much voltage.  Again, leaks said.  

[BigRom]

5 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

5Ghz on Ryzen is a bit of a long shot with reasonable voltage.

 

Now, if you were running 1.5v or higher, you could probably get to 5Ghz with relative ease on Ryzen, but that would require a pretty high end PSU, motherboard, and cooling.

No to mention at 1.5V there is real risk of the CPU degrading, making it unable to hold 5Ghz anyway

[xg32]

For the 8core, i'm now expecting it to be slower than the 9900k, but the 3600/3700 will still be the best value for 6 and 8 core for the performance it offers, expecting 6 core to be 4.6-4.7ghz and 8core to be 4.5-4.6ghz.

 

watching what kinda issues the 12 core will have in gaming latency, waiting on the 16 core, which i expect to be a monster around 4.3ghz as a workstation without going hedt.

 

Sidenote, if the 3700 does end up being slower than the 9900k it'd be a disappointment as it's a year late and only 100usd cheaper.

[sallamby]

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a ryzen 2 plus given the lack of competition from intel built on a mature tsmc 7nm plus node that might creep up to near 4.8/4.9 ghz like we saw with ryzen plus.

 

Also with it being a chiplet architecture and going on amd's history they are almost definitely binning these chiplets, giving epyc the most power efficient chips and maybe threadripper the best overclockers as we saw with first gen threadripper some of those chips were hitting 4.2ghz which was near impossible on any of the other first gen parts.

 

I wonder if they are planning something like piledriver, some sort of power hungry high clockspeed monster sold at a premium and made up of the top 2% of chips although I'm sure if they manage to bring out an 8 or 12 core 5ghz chip its going to be seriously expensive.

[nick name]

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some 50X skus that clocked higher.  Or more cores.  

[Gohardgrandpa]

I think you’ll be able to get all core at the turbo speed but that’s it.