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So I have went completely nuts when it has come to building my first gaming pc. It is stupidly expensive and I believe I have bought bad parts in terms of cooling or utilising my GPUs to its full potential. Any advice on which parts I should switch to fully utilise my GPU. I don't mind the slight bottleneck with my cpu and GPU its mostly the motherboard I'm afraid of.

 

CPU: i5 9600k

GPU: Msi rtx 2080 ti gaming trio

motherboard: msi z390 - a pro

ram: 2x 8gb corsair vengeance 3200mhz

power supply: corsair Corsair VS650 650 W Active PFC 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply Unit 

case: EMPIRE GAMING - WarFare PC Gaming unit - Black - Red LED: USB 3.0, 3 x 120 mm LED Fans, Smoked transparent side panel - ATX/mATX/mITX

fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooling System

storage: m.2 Samsung 

monitor: Asus rog

 

yes I know I'm a noob.

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I'd swap the motherboard out for an ASUS Z390-E personally. I've had much better experiences with ASUS motherboards than MSI motherboards. (Better software, better UEFI ["BIOS"], better quality, etc..)

 

I'd also opt for something a bit beefier than a 212 EVO, just for the sake of cooling and silence. https://amzn.to/2WdP3Rr Check out the Noctua NH-D15, it's a bit more expensive, but it easily competes with even 240mm AIO Liquid Coolers.

 

I'm not too familiar with Corsair's VS series of power supplies, but seeing how it's non-modular and only 80+ rated, I wouldn't put that thing anywhere near my rig. Something like an EVGA 650 G3 would be much better. https://amzn.to/2HNriqz

Specs: CPU - Intel i7 8700K @ 5GHz | GPU - Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming | Motherboard - ASUS Strix Z370-G WIFI AC | RAM - XPG Gammix DDR4-3000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) | Main Drive - Samsung 850 Evo 500GB M.2 | Other Drives - 7TB/3 Drives | CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Pro | Case - Fractal Design Define C Mini TG | Power Supply - EVGA G3 850W

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28 minutes ago, ArnoldDavis said:

I have went completely nuts when it has come to building my first gaming pc.

and you got the crappiest PSU corsair makes

 

28 minutes ago, ArnoldDavis said:

replace this immediately with a corsair RMX or bitfenix whisper.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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13 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

I've had much better experiences with ASUS motherboards than MSI motherboards. (Better software, better UEFI ["BIOS"], better quality, etc..)

it's a shame they're both tied for world's worst customer service

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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@ArnoldDavis

 

first thing i see: shitty psu. 

Get yourself a PSU from tier A or above from the following list as a guideline 

 

 

 

MSI B450 Pro Gaming Pro Carbon AC | AMD Ryzen 2700x  | NZXT  Kraken X52  MSI GeForce RTX2070 Armour | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4*8) 3200MhZ | Samsung 970 evo M.2nvme 500GB Boot  / Samsung 860 evo 500GB SSD | Corsair RM550X (2018) | Fractal Design Meshify C white | Logitech G pro WirelessGigabyte Aurus AD27QD 

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16 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

it's a shame they're both tied for world's worst customer service

Since I'm a noob would you have any idea if my motherboard is crappy. Would it be a throttle in anyway to my cpu. Thanks

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1 minute ago, ArnoldDavis said:

Since I'm a noob would you have any idea if my motherboard is crappy. Would it be a throttle in anyway to my cpu. Thanks

It's not a high end board but it's fine for your CPU. It can overclock a little, and that's about it.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, fasauceome said:

It's not a high end board but it's fine for your CPU. It can overclock a little, and that's about it.

Sorry I meant my gpu. I would be looking to drive it as hard as possible 1440p ultra etc. Would the motherboard be a Hindrance. 

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7 minutes ago, ArnoldDavis said:

Sorry I meant my gpu. I would be looking to drive it as hard as possible 1440p ultra etc. Would the motherboard be a Hindrance. 

the motherboard does not affect GPU performance.

 

just make sure there's a good power supply on it and it's fine.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, fasauceome said:

the motherboard does not affect GPU performance.

 

just make sure there's a good power supply on it and it's fine.

Hey thank you for all your help man. I have a resident computer builder friend who has told me the psu is fine thats why I got it. I will have to send back now. Whats the actual reason its crap? Thanks again.

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4 minutes ago, ArnoldDavis said:

I have a resident computer builder friend who has told me the psu is fine

it's always good to get a second opinion before you buy

 

4 minutes ago, ArnoldDavis said:

Whats the actual reason its crap?

bad protections and voltage ripple, crap fan, no semi passive mode or modularity, low quality components used. It's by no means meant for a powerful gaming CPU and GPU, only basic office PCs.

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I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Get AORUS Master motherboard. 12 phase VRM on it and a finned heatsink, good WiFi, easy overclocking, and 3x NVMe slots.

Main PC:

CPU: Intel Core i9 13900KS SP 116 (124P-102E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC8 1.525V (real voltage 1.425V + - Temps 85-90 P-Cores, 70-73 E-cores)

Cooled by: Supercool Direct Die 14th gen full nickel

Motherboard: Z790 ASUS Maximus Apex Encore

RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

GPU: RTX MSI 4090 Suprim X with EKWB waterblock

Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

WiFi: BE202 WiFi 7 Tri-Band card module

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

Display: Samsung Oddysey G9 240Hz Ver. 5120x1440 with G-Sync and Freesync Premium Pro 1008 Firmware Ver, and 1x Electriq USB C 1080p 15'8 inch IPS portable display for temperature and stats, MSI 23'8 144Hz G-Sync

Fan Controllers:  6x AquaComputer Octo with 5 temperature sensors

Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow V3 RGB - Green switches

Sound: Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified 505W Speakers

Mouse: Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock

Piano: Yamaha P155

Phone: Oppo Find X5 Pro

Camera: Logitech Brio Pro 4K

VR: Oculus Rift S

External SSD: 256GB Overclocking OS

LaptopMSI Titan GT77HX V13RTX 4090 175W, i9 13980HX OC: P-Cores 5.8Ghz 3 cores and 5.2Ghz 5 cores and E-Cores 4.3Ghz, 192GB of RAM @5600Mhz @3600 (chipset limit),

12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

Hand held: ROG Ally with XG Mobile RTX 3080 with Keychron K3 low profile keyboard (Blue Switches) and Razer Hyperspeed V3 mouse and 4TB NVMe upgrade (WDBlack SN850X), with 100W 20000Mah power bank and portable monitor ROG XG17AHP 17'3 inch 240Hz with built in battery, and 518Wh Power station for Camping.

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In my native land, the general recommendation for Z390 boards are Gigabyte Aorus Pro, Aorus Elite and Aorus Master, or, cheaper: Gigabyte Gaming X Z390.

 

The PSU is kind of "meh", should have picked a better unit. Bitfenix WhisperM and BQ Straight Power or Corsair RM650X would be my pick.

 

For CPU cooling: with an 9600k I'd pick something like BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro4; Alpenföhn Brocken3 or even Deepcool AssassinII. If I were you. There are also more budget coolers with excellent performance, ie.: FSP Windale6 (roughly 45 USD in my country) or Raijintek Ereboss (40USD).

 

And one of my favourite cases would be Fractal Design Meshify C or even Phanteks Enthoo Pro, both with wunderbar air circulation and good dimensions.

 

Please don't spare the expenses of your PSU and a good airflow case!

 

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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6 hours ago, Vejnemojnen said:

In my native land, the general recommendation for Z390 boards are Gigabyte Aorus Pro, Aorus Elite and Aorus Master, or, cheaper: Gigabyte Gaming X Z390.

 

The PSU is kind of "meh", should have picked a better unit. Bitfenix WhisperM and BQ Straight Power or Corsair RM650X would be my pick.

 

For CPU cooling: with an 9600k I'd pick something like BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro4; Alpenföhn Brocken3 or even Deepcool AssassinII. If I were you. There are also more budget coolers with excellent performance, ie.: FSP Windale6 (roughly 45 USD in my country) or Raijintek Ereboss (40USD).

 

And one of my favourite cases would be Fractal Design Meshify C or even Phanteks Enthoo Pro, both with wunderbar air circulation and good dimensions.

 

Please don't spare the expenses of your PSU and a good airflow case!

 

100% Go Fractal Design for Case (superb dust filtering, cool *and* quiet). Dont skimp on your PSU; EVGA do great modular PSU's.

I mostly go for Asus MB. Samsung for SSD 2.5" and WD Caviar Black for reliable magnetic storage.

If you can get NVme drive on your MB for your OS and fast storage, AData do a crazy value extremely fast NVme " ASX8200NP-480GT-C" great value.

 

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6 hours ago, Telesto said:

100% Go Fractal Design for Case (superb dust filtering, cool *and* quiet). Dont skimp on your PSU; EVGA do great modular PSU's.

I mostly go for Asus MB. Samsung for SSD 2.5" and WD Caviar Black for reliable magnetic storage.

If you can get NVme drive on your MB for your OS and fast storage, AData do a crazy value extremely fast NVme " ASX8200NP-480GT-C" great value.

 

ASUS has shittiest Z390 board. Out of all companies. 4 phase VRMs everywhere.

Main PC:

CPU: Intel Core i9 13900KS SP 116 (124P-102E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC8 1.525V (real voltage 1.425V + - Temps 85-90 P-Cores, 70-73 E-cores)

Cooled by: Supercool Direct Die 14th gen full nickel

Motherboard: Z790 ASUS Maximus Apex Encore

RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

GPU: RTX MSI 4090 Suprim X with EKWB waterblock

Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

WiFi: BE202 WiFi 7 Tri-Band card module

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

Display: Samsung Oddysey G9 240Hz Ver. 5120x1440 with G-Sync and Freesync Premium Pro 1008 Firmware Ver, and 1x Electriq USB C 1080p 15'8 inch IPS portable display for temperature and stats, MSI 23'8 144Hz G-Sync

Fan Controllers:  6x AquaComputer Octo with 5 temperature sensors

Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow V3 RGB - Green switches

Sound: Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified 505W Speakers

Mouse: Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock

Piano: Yamaha P155

Phone: Oppo Find X5 Pro

Camera: Logitech Brio Pro 4K

VR: Oculus Rift S

External SSD: 256GB Overclocking OS

LaptopMSI Titan GT77HX V13RTX 4090 175W, i9 13980HX OC: P-Cores 5.8Ghz 3 cores and 5.2Ghz 5 cores and E-Cores 4.3Ghz, 192GB of RAM @5600Mhz @3600 (chipset limit),

12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

Hand held: ROG Ally with XG Mobile RTX 3080 with Keychron K3 low profile keyboard (Blue Switches) and Razer Hyperspeed V3 mouse and 4TB NVMe upgrade (WDBlack SN850X), with 100W 20000Mah power bank and portable monitor ROG XG17AHP 17'3 inch 240Hz with built in battery, and 518Wh Power station for Camping.

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