Which AMD CPU should I pickup with a gtx 1070?

[KerrBeeldens]

Hello! I'm quite a newbie concerning building PC's. I've got a bit of a clue what I'm doing, but certainly not enough to be able to not plague forums with questions.

 

Anyway, AMD recently announced their Ryzen 3700x, 3800x and 3900x which will obviously cause some shifts in pricing of CPU's. I myself have a 'Frankenstein' PC with an AMD A10 7800, 16gb DD3 RAM and a GTX 1070. Considering my CPU is clearly bottlenecking my GPU and these upcoming shifts in pricing I would like to upgrade it. However this will be quite costly as I will have to buy a new motherboard and RAM (and a new case wouldn't be to bad of an investment as well) to go with it. Because of this, I would like to keep my GPU (as it's still a good card) to cut on costs. The question remains, what CPU I should buy. I could go with a cheap(er) CPU (one from the 1000 or 2000 series) which would match the performance of my GPU and building an entire new PC when it becomes obsolete, or I could go the 'future proof' way by going with a 3000 series CPU and upgrading my GPU in the future.

Okay, bottom line:
With a 1070, which (AMD) CPU should I pick up, considering I'm focussed on gaming performance and long term costs?
Perhaps an additional question I would like to ask: '...and how much would this cost (roughly) if I'm buying it among with a new motherboard, RAM (8 or 16gb) and case?'

 

[SupaKomputa]

$199 for R5 3600 is a good price to performance.

[KerrBeeldens]

16 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

$199 for R5 3600 is a good price to performance.

Yes it is, but that wasn't really my question. I could for example pickup a Ryzen 1600 for around $130 and save myself some money, while the CPU won't bottleneck my GPU.
The question is, if it is better to buy, as you said the 3600 (with a more costly motherboard, I assume) so I can get some more time out of my CPU, or buy something cheaper and save up for when the entire rig becomes obsolete and build an entirely new PC

[MrRemnant]

13 minutes ago, KerrBeeldens said:

Yes it is, but that wasn't really my question. I could for example pickup a Ryzen 1600 for around $130 and save myself some money, while the CPU won't bottleneck my GPU.
The question is, if it is better to buy, as you said the 3600 (with a more costly motherboard, I assume) so I can get some more time out of my CPU, or buy something cheaper and save up for when the entire rig becomes obsolete and build an entirely new PC

Wait and see. We haven't got a lot on the new Cpu's so nothing definite can be said, once people get hands-on and reviews/ benchmarks come out you'll know if you should get it. 

[SupaKomputa]

There will always be a bottleneck one way or the other.

You just have to manage your expectations.

See some benchmark, and decide if you can accept the numbers.

With 1600 you will be limited with the clockspeed, myself use one, i think it's good enough.

After the announcement i decided to not upgrade to 3600.

I was hoping the 6 core will be in the R3 lineup, like the rumors say.

Someday i may just upgrade everything to 12 core and x570, but not this year.

 

The 1600 won't be obsolete in 2 or 3 years.

You can buy the new motherboard with the 1600 and just upgrade when the price is right.

I saw 1600 as low as $100 in pcpartpicker.

[porina]

What is the goal on "gaming performance"? Even a 1600 would be good for 60+ fps gaming but might struggle if you want to maintain 100+ fps on certain games. We don't know yet how the new CPUs will react to gaming but certainly their higher clocks will help if maintaining higher fps is desired.

 

I guess it depends on the price gap and what you think is worth it. 1600 + older mobo will likely be a fair lower cost compared to 3000 + what will be a brand new X570 (no mention of lower chipsets yet?).

[Stormseeker9]

@KerrBeeldens

 

ryzen 2600 paired with 1070 will be a sweet spot.

 

grab a B450 board like the tomahawk from MSI and a 2*8GB 3000/3200 MHz kit of ram and you are sweet to go 

[Mister Woof]

You're still using an A10 APU

 

Anything you get is going to be a massive improvement, and if you stick with your next CPU as long as you've had this one, it doesn't matter really. 

 

Personally I'd try to score a used 1600/2600 for cheap or get the 3600 which I expect to be equal within a few % of an 8700k, and be done for the next 5+ years.

[KerrBeeldens]

20 hours ago, porina said:

What is the goal on "gaming performance"? Even a 1600 would be good for 60+ fps gaming but might struggle if you want to maintain 100+ fps on certain games. We don't know yet how the new CPUs will react to gaming but certainly their higher clocks will help if maintaining higher fps is desired.

 

I guess it depends on the price gap and what you think is worth it. 1600 + older mobo will likely be a fair lower cost compared to 3000 + what will be a brand new X570 (no mention of lower chipsets yet?).

I don't really have a goal, I meant it more in a way that I would't be doing anything like Photoshop, Blender or what have you. In terms of performance, I've currently got a 1080p 60hz screen, so really playing any title on 60fps 1080p on ultra/ultra with a few settings tweaked would be fine. I know that this would mean a 1600 would be enough, but I'm wondering if it might be worth to get an overkill CPU and upgrade my GPU along the way or just buy a new rig when my 1070 and (presumably) Ryzen 1600 are obsolete.

[KerrBeeldens]

18 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

You're still using an A10 APU

 

Anything you get is going to be a massive improvement, and if you stick with your next CPU as long as you've had this one, it doesn't matter really. 

 

Personally I'd try to score a used 1600/2600 for cheap or get the 3600 which I expect to be equal within a few % of an 8700k, and be done for the next 5+ years.

About the first part, yeah, I know. I bought the 1070 a while back with the idea I would upgrade the rest of my rig soon. Guess that didn't happen. In terms of the 1600/2600 vs 3600, which option would you pick and why?

[Mister Woof]

5 hours ago, KerrBeeldens said:

About the first part, yeah, I know. I bought the 1070 a while back with the idea I would upgrade the rest of my rig soon. Guess that didn't happen. In terms of the 1600/2600 vs 3600, which option would you pick and why?

3600 unless I could get the others very cheap; allegedly 30% up from the 1600 and 15% up from the 2600 from ipc and frequency