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Crosshair VI Extreme vs Crosshair VII Hero

X370 motherboards in my country are on sales and i'm looking for one:

 

- Crosshair VI Extreme for 155$

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- Crosshair VII Hero for 235$

 

I'm going to skip StoreMI so i really want to know OC potentials of these two mobo are the same ? Should i go for C6HE for 80$ less ?

 

How about the VRM, can C6HE handle and overclocking Zen 2 ?

 

P.s: Sorry for my bad English ;(

 

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I wouldn't buy a 2 generations old motherboard for overclocking a new processor, i would get a X570 motherboard instead.

 

4 minutes ago, Wisee said:

How about the VRM, can C6HE handle and overclocking Zen 2 ?

We literally have no information as of now, wait 9 days, then they will show off the x570 motherboards, and you can see if there is a big difference between them.

I only see your reply if you @ me.

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ASUS is gonna be announcing their X570 boards soon so if you're gonna be getting a next gen Ryzen CPU then I would wait if you can.  

 

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11 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

wouldn't buy a 2 generations old motherboard for overclocking a new processor, i would get a X570 motherboard instead.

it's a top tier x370 tho...

 

how much is a taichi?

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6 minutes ago, nick name said:

ASUS is gonna be announcing their X570 boards soon so if you're gonna be getting a next gen Ryzen CPU then I would wait if you can.  

 

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I would wait also.. I will be replacing my Crosshair VII with an X570 board as well (as long as they're not complete trash)..

 

That being said, if you want one now I would just get the cheapest.. I'm not sure if the C6E supports PBO/XFR2 but if you plan to manually OC like I do, then it doesn't matter anyway.. If the Extreme was on sale when I bought my Crosshair VII I would have gotten it as it's plenty for at least the current line of processors..

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The only leaked X570 is the Biostar X570GT8, which seems to have the same phase count as the C6E. Then again that's Biostar, not where you'll instinctively look at for a good board.

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

The only leaked X570 is the Biostar X570GT8, which seems to have the same phase count as the C6E. Then again that's Biostar, not where you'll instinctively look at for a good board.

The X570GT8 has the same VRM as the X470GT8 i think, which has a 10+2 phase, aka C7H

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Just now, Firewrath9 said:

The X570GT8 has the same VRM as the X470GT8 i think, which has a 10+2 phase, aka C7H

I just copied Buildzoid's idea of doubled 4 phase for Vcore and doubled 2 phase for SoC. Without knowing the mosfets or powerstages it's not that helpful of an information anyway

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I just copied Buildzoid's idea of doubled 4 phase for Vcore and doubled 2 phase for SoC. Without knowing the mosfets or powerstages it's not that helpful of an information anyway

??

Same as X470GT8, which has same as C7H, but with a doubled phase for the vsoc.

I think i have the X570 GT8 in my X570 list already, w/ vrm

it has a IR35 (something something) 1, in 5+1, then IR3559s to some other phase = 10+2

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1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

??

Same as X470GT8, which has same as C7H, but with a doubled phase for the vsoc.

I think i have the X570 GT8 in my X570 list already, w/ vrm

it has a IR35 (something something) 1, in 5+1, then IR3559s to some other phase = 10+2

you havent watched Buildzoid's X570 speculation video did ya?

 

who knows if Biostar copies Gigabyte's powerstage shopping list.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

you havent watched Buildzoid's X570 speculation video did ya?

 

who knows if Biostar copies Gigabyte's powerstage shopping list.

I skimmed it, ignored most of it :P

It has 12 inductors, thus a 8+2 phase is not possible.

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2 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

I skimmed it, ignored most of it :P

It has 12 inductors, thus a 8+2 phase is not possible.

It could be an 8+4 (at least 8+4 worth of parts), especially if Vega 20 will be part of an AM4 APU.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It could be an 8+4 (at least 8+4 worth of parts), especially if Vega 20 will be part of an AM4 APU.

oh, i see. The previous boards were a 8+2, and a 10+2, would be suprised if it has a weaker vcore.

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4 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

oh, i see. The previous boards were a 8+2, and a 10+2, would be suprised if it has a weaker vcore.

Ya at that point it's no longer a flagship board. Could give mid range boards like the Asus X570 pro and X570 Strix a run for their money though

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Thanks guys, the clearance sale is gonna end this weekend so the price won't be so good anymore

 

But yeah, i should wait for x570

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  • 1 year later...

Im considering going back down to a C6E from a C7H for aesthetics/watercooling, and because I scored a brand new C6E monoblock, from what I read there was no real difference between the VI (x370) and VII (x470) except maybe some BIOS updates and trace path upgrades for memory, which I’m sure were also upgraded in the new C6Extreme, I guess my main concern is the m.2 RAID0 function ...any differences between updated x370 and x470? Btw running a 1700x @4Ghz. I know this thread is old but any heads up on real world differences that would impact gaming performance would be appreciated. But honestly from what I’ve read I’m guessing not 😉 

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