is the rx 580 worth it?

[liam807]

I have a gtx 1050 ti right now and I was wondering if it is worth upgrading to an rx 580 8 gb ($170) or should I just get a gtx 1660 ($220)? Is the performance bump too little between the 1050 ti to rx 580 for the cost?

[Princess Luna]

The RX 580 is almost as fast as "2" 1050 Ti's... it's a worthy upgrade if you need it already... Navi is still quite a couple of months from release yet...

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, liam807 said:

I have a gtx 1050 ti right now and I was wondering if it is worth upgrading to an rx 580 8 gb ($170) or should I just get a gtx 1660 ($220)? Is the performance bump too little between the 1050 ti to rx 580 for the cost?

I would just personally get a RX 570 8gb nitro+/pulse and oc the hell out of it, cost less pretty much the same performance with RX 590. But i would reccomend the 1660 cause its pretty much the same as the Ti if you OC'd

[DrMacintosh]

The performance difference from the 580 to the 1660 for $30 is not worth it imo. I would say that yes, the RX 580 would be a good buy at that price. 

[zlolslavez]

You could also pick up a used 580 for like $100-120.

[Od1sseas]

No it's bad. This card cannot run games at 1080p Ultra settings 60 FPS anymore. Get at least a 1660 Ti and overclock it

[Jurrunio]

I'd go 1660, difference from 1050ti to RX 580 isnt super big and RX 580's relevance for AAA games wont be nearly as good as 1660. If you can get RX 580s cheaper else where I'd get that and bear with upgrading the GPU sooner.

[dravemel0n]

4 hours ago, liam807 said:

I have a gtx 1050 ti right now and I was wondering if it is worth upgrading to an rx 580 8 gb ($170) or should I just get a gtx 1660 ($220)? Is the performance bump too little between the 1050 ti to rx 580 for the cost?

i would reccomend a rx vega 56 since its relatively better and has a similiar price.

[Stefan Payne]

8 hours ago, liam807 said:

I have a gtx 1050 ti right now and I was wondering if it is worth upgrading to an rx 580 8 gb ($170) or should I just get a gtx 1660 ($220)? Is the performance bump too little between the 1050 ti to rx 580 for the cost?

How much more is VEGA??
Some VEGA are at around 250€ or so.

But yeah, its already a good improvement. ANd you might find a victim whou buys the 1050ti off of you for 100€ or so.

[bruhbing]

The RX 580 is slower than the GTX 1660ti, if money isn't a problem, and Nvidia is more optimised in a lot of games.

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-580/4037vs3923

[Stefan Payne]

5 hours ago, TECHNOKID said:

The RX 580 is slower than the GTX 1660ti,

...and in VEGA Territory but gets beaten by VEGA...

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if money isn't a problem,

If money wasn't a Problem he wouldn't have asked for an RX580, would he?
He would have asked for a Radeon 7.

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and Nvidia is more optimised in a lot of games.

Why did you say that?!
Its just total bullshit and a lot more complicated.

And why do you want to push him to nVidia?? 
Can't he just try AMD for a change??

 

And userbenchmark is a total useless site that tells you nothing...

[kevinisbeast707]

17 hours ago, Oalei said:

I would just personally get a RX 570 8gb nitro+/pulse and oc the hell out of it, cost less pretty much the same performance with RX 590. But i would reccomend the 1660 cause its pretty much the same as the Ti if you OC'd

Idk if the 570 has this same issue but my friends rx 470 power throttles to hell once you try to raise the power/ voltage limit and try to overclock at all. It averages out the power draw in a stupid manner where it would run at 130-150w for a while and then it would throttle back to like 30w which I think was it trying to average out the power draw to its rated 120w but in a profoundly stupid way. The rx 480 I recently got has no such issue with power throttling and idk if they fixed this on the 570 or not. It seemed to be a way to keep the rx 470 less competitive to the 480.

[Jon Jon]

What games are you playing?

 

Owning a gtx 1050ti in my laptop and my rx 580 8gb in my desktop, the real difference is I can play most games at 1080p60 on max/high settings with the rx 580.

 

The 1050ti requires more graphics finesse to get to 60fps depending on the title.

 

Personally, I would save to get into something more powerful.

[Oalei]

3 hours ago, kevinisbeast707 said:

Idk if the 570 has this same issue but my friends rx 470 power throttles to hell once you try to raise the power/ voltage limit and try to overclock at all. It averages out the power draw in a stupid manner where it would run at 130-150w for a while and then it would throttle back to like 30w which I think was it trying to average out the power draw to its rated 120w but in a profoundly stupid way. The rx 480 I recently got has no such issue with power throttling and idk if they fixed this on the 570 or not. It seemed to be a way to keep the rx 470 less competitive to the 480.

IDK about this maybe it just the card is bad? Or you just flash bios to see if the Bios is the problem. 

[Mylen]

I just bought a Rx 570 8GB and performance is outstanding, but i have never owned a gtx, or Nvidia card so I would not be able to tell you which one is better.

[mrmoyer]

23 hours ago, Od1sseas said:

No it's bad. This card cannot run games at 1080p Ultra settings 60 FPS anymore. Get at least a 1660 Ti and overclock it

What games are you referring to?  I have an rx580 and I can Run all esports titles on 60fps ultra. I don't play triple A games so I can't comment on those. With the question of which card to get the 580 and 1660ti both have some of the best price to performance so go with the 1660ti if you have money to spare but otherwise the 580 is a great card for the money. 

[Mylen]

9 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

...and in VEGA Territory but gets beaten by VEGA...

If money wasn't a Problem he wouldn't have asked for an RX580, would he?
He would have asked for a Radeon 7.

Why did you say that?!
Its just total bullshit and a lot more complicated.

And why do you want to push him to nVidia?? 
Can't he just try AMD for a change??

 

And userbenchmark is a total useless site that tells you nothing...

Well said

[Od1sseas]

3 hours ago, mrmoyer said:

What games are you referring to?  I have an rx580 and I can Run all esports titles on 60fps ultra. I don't play triple A games so I can't comment on those. With the question of which card to get the 580 and 1660ti both have some of the best price to performance so go with the 1660ti if you have money to spare but otherwise the 580 is a great card for the money. 

At Ultra settings:

Shadow of the Tomb Raider drops to 44 FPS

Rise of the Tomb Raider drops to 44 FPS

Anthem drops to 40 FPS

Generation Zero drops to 40 FPS

Assassin's Creed Origins 40 FPS (44 FPS at Very High)

Assassin's Creed Odyssey to 30 FPS (43 FPS at Very High)

Division 2 drops to 45 FPS

Ghost Recon Wildlands 40 FPS

Metro Exodus AT HIGH SETTINGS ALL OTHER OFF 35 FPS in Taiga mission

Monster Hunter World, Just Cause 4, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Watch Dogs 2, MAFIA 3, Sniper Ghost Warrior 3

 

Enough games for today...

CPU: R5 2600 and 2X4GB RAM 3200MHZ CL16

Edited May 6, 2019 by Od1sseas

[kevinisbeast707]

12 hours ago, Od1sseas said:

At Ultra settings:

Shadow of the Tomb Raider drops to 44 FPS

Rise of the Tomb Raider drops to 44 FPS

Anthem drops to 40 FPS

Generation Zero drops to 40 FPS

Assassin's Creed Origins 40 FPS (44 FPS at Very High)

Assassin's Creed Odyssey to 30 FPS (43 FPS at Very High)

Division 2 drops to 45 FPS

Ghost Recon Wildlands 40 FPS

Metro Exodus AT HIGH SETTINGS ALL OTHER OFF 35 FPS in Taiga mission

Monster Hunter World, Just Cause 4, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Watch Dogs 2, MAFIA 3, Sniper Ghost Warrior 3

 

Enough games for today...

CPU: R5 2600 and 2X4GB RAM 3200MHZ CL16

You could always optimize settings too... My rx 480 does pretty well in everything and the 570 isn't terribly far off of that. In GTA V I'm getting pretty consistently 60 fps by keeping msaa at 4x with fxaa stacked on top of that with everything but grass turned to very high or ultra. ROTTR easily gets 60fps at 1080p if you use smaa instead of 2-4x ssaa. It does surprisingly well at 1440p ultrawide if you drop some settings like msaa and shadows a little bit. Another big help for this is freesync which works much better on Radeon cards than Nvidia's "attempt".

[kevinisbeast707]

18 hours ago, Oalei said:

IDK about this maybe it just the card is bad? Or you just flash bios to see if the Bios is the problem. 

Idk it's not my card so I didn't want to bother him. If we don't overclock and only crank power limit then it's fine. Its an asus strix rx 470 which in hindsight was a bad move since asus's coolers seem to always suck for amd cards but we got it pretty cheap a few years ago.

[xAcid9]

RX 580 almost 70% better than 1050 Ti while around 20% slower compare to 1660. 

 

 

Price/performance wise, both card is ok but depend on which model. Some low end GTX 1660 come with really shitty cooler. 

[RejZoR]

Get it if you need it now. Relative was buying a new affordable gaming system 2 months ago and we picked RX580 GTS Black Edition for it. It was 190€. One of highest clocked RX580's for bargain price. It was meant for 1080p gaming and it works really well.

 

RX590, while slightly faster is often a lot more expensive and imo not worth it. As for Navi, expect similar schedule as before for AMD. Paper launch during late summer for actual availability in autumn. It has been this way since R9 Fury, possibly even further back...

[Srnewbee]

i say rx580 for $170 is just an okay deal. If you can get it for $120 used, that would be amazing! If you have a free sync monitor, then its a no brainer, Rx580!!! But here is a potential problem, RX 580 requires more power.

[Od1sseas]

2 hours ago, PacketMan said:

Not a fair move when compared to "Ultra settings", those games are very, very demanding and even the GTX 1660Ti would struggle with those at ultra/max settings and 1080p, the Ultra settings aren't worth it anymore and it's a luxury imo, there's almost no difference between high and ultra but a huge fps drop, by lowering shadows, and lowering a couple of settings on every game of those you can get easily to at least 60 fps and you wouldn't even notice.

You should be fair for an entry/medium card, Ultra settings are maxing out the visual effects even if you don't notice it, and you pay with a lot of performance loss, nothing else and not worth in a comparison in this range

Edit: for more info, RTX 2060 with Metro: Exodus -> 1080p, Ultra settings, average 53 fps, min fps 20, does that mean that the 2060 is a bad card?

Metro Exodus Ultra/Tessellation/Advanced PhysX with the RTX 2060 at 1080p it has an avarage of 100FPS (https://youtu.be/auHQLCH7vQk?t=8)

Where did you find 53 FPS AVG and 20 FPS min? Nice joke

 

Edit: Even at High settings the RX 580 cannot keep stable 60 FPS in those games that i have mentioned. I literally uninstalled all of those games because i couldn't get stable 60 FPS at High settings. I only have CSGO installed on my computer because of that

Edited May 7, 2019 by Od1sseas

[maartendc]

I'd say the RX 580 is a decent upgrade over your 1050Ti, but is getting a little old now.

 

If you have the budget, the 1660 is a decent upgrade over a RX 580 for $220.

 

The Vega 56 is even better than the 1660Ti for $299 if you have the money.

 

All depends on how much you can spend...

 

HONESTLY: you know what the best deal is for $220? A used GTX 1070. Beats the hell out of both RX 580 and 1660, even 1660Ti. Just a bit slower than an RTX 2060. Awesome performance for the money.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-1070-Mini-8GB-GDDR5-VR-Ready-Super-Compact-Gaming-Graphics/392279131028?epid=691332204&hash=item5b55a88394:g:4DEAAOSwYEBcjnG1