Build to play 1080p 144hz

[ZigaZz]

1. Budget & Location

1400€ like 1600USD I'm from Portugal ( best stores here: pcdiga.com , globaldata.pt , chip7.pt and pccomponentes.pt)

2. Aim

1080p 144Hz Gaming

3. Monitors

1 monitor 144Hz for gaming and maybe another one for the chat of sreamming

4. Peripherals

I do need Keyboard mouse and monitor, the 144Hz one, the other one I have.

5. Why are you upgrading?

Beacause I really need an upgrade !

 

Hello guys, I really need to upgrade my rig !

I'm rocking an Asus laptop X550L with i7-4500u and Geforce 840m, 8Gb ram etc... it's a piece of old shit I know !

So, I want to make a new gaming Desktop so I can play and stream games like PUBG, BFV, Apex 144Hz or at least 120Hz stable.

 

I gather some parts and I want to know your opinions and your recomendations.

 

The parts I've see :
Mobo - Asus Prime B450M-A

CPU - Ryzen 7 2700

Ram - G.skill Ripjaws V 16GB DDR4-3200Mhz CL16

Storage - SSD M.2 2280 Samsung 970 evo plus 500 GB MLC V-NAND NVME

GPU - Msi RTX 2080 

PSU - Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W Full Modular.

 

[brob]

The motherboard is ok. If you intend to overclock the cpu you should consider something better.

 

An RTX 2080 is overkill for gaming at 1080p even at 144MHz.

 

Excellent psu. You might also consider the Corsair RM550X.

 

Not enough information on the memory kit to make a reasonable comment.

 

[Karacken]

rtx 2060 would work just fine

[ZigaZz]

I forgot to say I want to stream as well, that's why I choose the rtx 2080.

 

The memory is this one https://www.pcdiga.com/gskill-ripjaws-v-ddr4-3200mhz-2x8gb-f4-3200c16d-16gvkb @brob what do you think?

 

Thank you guys.

[brob]

G.Skill does not list the motherboard on the memory kit QVL. Nor does Asus list the memory kit on the B450M-A memory QVL for Ryzen 2xxx. The memory will run, but it may not be possible to achieve the advertised speed and timings.

 

You might consider https://www.pcdiga.com/memoria-ram-corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-3000mhz-cl15-preta instead. 

[ZigaZz]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

G.Skill does not list the motherboard on the memory kit QVL. Nor does Asus list the memory kit on the B450M-A memory QVL for Ryzen 2xxx. The memory will run, but it may not be possible to achieve the advertised speed and timings.

  

You might consider https://www.pcdiga.com/memoria-ram-corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-3000mhz-cl15-preta instead. 

Hmm I see, so between changing the ram sticks or choosing another Mobo what do you recommend?

[Guest]

I would switch out that board for something better. The Asus lower end stuff is awful at best. If going ATX then something like the MSI B450 Tomahawk is much much better. The mATX MSI boards such as the Gaming Plus, Bazooka or Mortar are also ok.

 

The Seasonic Focus supposedly has issues with higher end gpu's. Maybe look at the Corsair RMx as mentioned above or something else like the Bitfenix Whisper etc.

[ZigaZz]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

I would switch out that board for something better. The Asus lower end stuff is awful at best. If going ATX then something like the MSI B450 Tomahawk is much much better. The mATX MSI boards such as the Gaming Plus, Bazooka or Mortar are also ok.

 

The Seasonic Focus supposedly has issues with higher end gpu's. Maybe look at the Corsair RMx as mentioned above or something else like the Bitfenix Whisper etc.

Thanks for the advice, I will check those Mobos and the power supply as well!

[Zando_]

How's an 8600K/9600K and good Z390 mobo vs the 2700 cost wise in portugal? I had a 2700X on an ASUS Crosshair VII, couldn't hold a candle to an OCed (5Ghz) 8600K on a Prime Z370-A. 8600K kept most games pinned at 144fps, other than ARMA 3. 2700X struggled to push more than 110-120fps consistently, either on the stock boost (actually better single core perf that way), or with an all core OC (4.2-4.25GHz). Both were using the same EVGA 1080 SC in my testing, though the fps numbers stayed pretty much the same regardless of card since most of mine were around 1080 perf or an actual 1080. 

 

The 8600K also easily kept up with 1080s in SLI at 2100MHz on the core in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K. 

[ZigaZz]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

How's an 8600K/9600K and good Z390 mobo vs the 2700 cost wise in portugal? I had a 2700X on an ASUS Crosshair VII, couldn't hold a candle to an OCed (5Ghz) 8600K on a Prime Z370-A. 8600K kept most games pinned at 144fps, other than ARMA 3. 2700X struggled to push more than 110-120fps consistently, either on the stock boost (actually better single core perf that way), or with an all core OC (4.2-4.25GHz). Both were using the same EVGA 1080 SC in my testing, though the fps numbers stayed pretty much the same regardless of card since most of mine were around 1080 perf or an actual 1080. 

  

The 8600K also easily kept up with 1080s in SLI at 2100MHz on the core in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K. 

intel, on those models, it's like 30€ more expensive, same with the Mobos. So you are telling me that for gaming and streaming you would choose an 8600k or 9600k over the ryzen 2700/2700X ?

Btw i will buy the 2080 not a 1080 !

 

Thank you for your reply !

[Zando_]

17 minutes ago, ZigaZz said:

intel, on those models, it's like 30€ more expensive, same with the Mobos. So you are telling me that for gaming and streaming you would choose an 8600k or 9600k over the ryzen 2700/2700X ?

Btw i will buy the 2080 not a 1080 !

 

Thank you for your reply !

If you're good with NVENC encoding (using the GPU instead of the CPU, slight quality hit, doesn't effect performance noticeably) then yeah, an 8600K/9600K or 8700K/9700K. You'll be hitting your full 144fps a lot more with those than the Ryzen. Ryzen would only be at an advantage if you ran CPU encoding. 

[brob]

2 hours ago, ZigaZz said:

Thanks for the advice, I will check those Mobos and the power supply as well!

 

Some reviewers report higher than normal power protection settings for Focus Plus psu. In a well built and balanced system this should not be a concern. But the RMx psu don't have that concern and are arguably as good.

 

[ZigaZz]

19 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

If you're good with NVENC encoding (using the GPU instead of the CPU, slight quality hit, doesn't effect performance noticeably) then yeah, an 8600K/9600K or 8700K/9700K. You'll be hitting your full 144fps a lot more with those than the Ryzen. Ryzen would only be at an advantage if you ran CPU encoding. 

 

17 hours ago, brob said:

 

Some reviewers report higher than normal power protection settings for Focus Plus psu. In a well built and balanced system this should not be a concern. But the RMx psu don't have that concern and are arguably as good.

 

Thank you so much for your advices guys ! You are the best! As soon as choose my parts and build it, I will post it up here !!
Thank you again!

[ZigaZz]

@Zando Bob @brob BTW, wich 144Hz monitor do you guys recommend??

[Zando_]

3 hours ago, ZigaZz said:

@Zando Bob @brob BTW, wich 144Hz monitor do you guys recommend??

I wouldn't know on that count. I have a 144Hz G-Sync panel from.... AOC IIRC, it's one of the OG G-sync panels, is a TN and all. If you're keeping above 120fps constant you don't need G-Sync though, and I'd go for a VA or IPS panel if you can since they have much nicer colors for the most part. 

[brob]

If you can visit a couple of stores to checkout different monitors. 

[ZigaZz]

50 minutes ago, brob said:

If you can visit a couple of stores to checkout different monitors. 

 

52 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I wouldn't know on that count. I have a 144Hz G-Sync panel from.... AOC IIRC, it's one of the OG G-sync panels, is a TN and all. If you're keeping above 120fps constant you don't need G-Sync though, and I'd go for a VA or IPS panel if you can since they have much nicer colors for the most part. 

do you think this one is worth it? https://www.pcdiga.com/monitor-aoc-g2460fq-tn-24-fhd-16-9-144hz

[brob]

14 minutes ago, ZigaZz said:

 

do you think this one is worth it? https://www.pcdiga.com/monitor-aoc-g2460fq-tn-24-fhd-16-9-144hz

 

I'm not familiar with that monitor.