Snapdragon 730, 730g and 665 release

[Trixanity]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Your display can refresh at 120Hz, but your games won’t run at 120Hz because the game simply wasn’t coded to output that many frames. 

So what about the games that support it?

[DrMacintosh]

18 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

So what about the games that support it?

I'm not aware of any. 

[Trixanity]

15 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I'm not aware of any. 

There are over a hundred.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Trixanity said:

There are over a hundred.

Like Tetris and Candy Crush? 

[Arika]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Like Tetris and Candy Crush? 

Arcade

• Pac-Man

• Pac-Man Pop!

• RC Soccer

• Super Samurai Rampage

• Chicken Jump

• Zen Pinball

 

Action-Adventure

• KillAllZombies

• Meridian

• Bug Butcher

• Caterzillar

• Dash Galactic

 

Fighting

• Tekken Mobile

• Injustice

• Injustice 2

• Mortal Kombat X

 

RPG/MMORPG

• Final Fantasy XV: Personal Edition

• Space Rangers: Legacy

• Vendetta Online

• Runescape

• Lineage 2: Revolution

• Evoland

• Middle Earth: Shadow of War

 

RTS

• Titanfall Assault

• Warhammer 40k: Freeblade

• Warfair

• World of Tanks: Blitz

• World of Warships

 

Puzzle/Strategy

• Star Vikings

• Puzzle Quest 2

• Talos Principle

• Mini Metro

• Hitman Go

• Lara Croft Go

• Deus Ex Go

 

FPS. Modern Combat 5, Shadowgun Legends, and Hitman Sniper

 

MOBA. Arena of Valor and Vainglory

 

Racing. Gear.Club, Asphalt 8, and Riptide GP: Renegade

 

Sandbox. Minecraft and Sandbox 3d

 

Other. Chameleon Run and Armajet

 

Sports. OK Golf

 

Rhythm. Dub Dash

 

Location-based. Pokemon Go

 

 

https://androidcommunity.com/heres-a-list-of-best-games-to-play-on-razer-phones-120hz-screen-20180105/

 

And this is just a "best" list

[Trixanity]

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Like Tetris and Candy Crush? 

Like Tekken, Need For Speed and Final Fantasy.

[DrMacintosh]

7 minutes ago, Arika S said:

And this is just a "best" list

And so which phones have 120Hz displays? Further which phones have a GPU capable of pushing that refresh rate while in games? And of those which of those are people actually using? 

 

Also I’m pretty sure the decision for 120Hz Support was the iPad Pro more than the Razer Phone. Considering how disproportionately popular the two devices are compared to each other. 

[Trixanity]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

And so which phones have 120Hz displays? Further which phones have a GPU capable of pushing that refresh rate while in games? And of those which of those are people actually using? 

You're moving the goal posts constantly.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

You're moving the goal posts constantly.

I could see how that would appear to be what's happening here. But iPhone and iPad still offer the best gaming experience on the market. One off 120Hz phones don't really impact that statement. 

[Brooksie359]

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I could see how that would appear to be what's happening here. But iPhone and iPad still offer the best gaming experience on the market. One off 120Hz phones don't really impact that statement. 

Not really. If a one off phone like the razor phone provides a better gaming experience then it really does impact the validity of your statement. That kinda goes without saying. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

If a one off phone like the razor phone provides a better gaming experience then it really does impact the validity of your statement. That kinda goes without saying. 

No, I don't think it does. Because the Razor phone doesn't offer a better gaming experience than an A12 Bionic equipped iPhone. 

[Trixanity]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I could see how that would appear to be what's happening here. But iPhone and iPad still offer the best gaming experience on the market. One off 120Hz phones don't really impact that statement. 

There are two. And a 90 Hz phone. And other phones with hidden high refresh modes albeit buggy apparently. And indeed, you are moving them.

[Brooksie359]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

No, I don't think it does. Because the Razor phone doesn't offer a better gaming experience than an A12 Bionic equipped iPhone. 

How could you even know that without even trying the razor phone?

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

How could you even know that without even trying the razor phone?

And you know that I haven't used a Razor phone how? 

[Trixanity]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

And you know that I haven't used a Razor phone how? 

Because you showed you knew nothing about it?

[Bouzoo]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

And you know that I haven't used a Razor phone how? 

Because your hands would burn if you touched something that's not a specific type of fruit like you if were possessed by Beelzebub while the Pope is performing exorcism on you in the middle of St. Peter's Basilica.

That was clearly a joke or was it really?

 

Now just something that I went to check:

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

But there is a reason Fortnight runs at 60fps. 

It seems it's far from 60 FPS on XS. I thought it was 60, dead. Probably the reason why the X has only 30 FPS. It seems Epic is a dick about that since they patched the unofficial 60 FPS Android workaround. 

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Because you showed you knew nothing about it?

I don't think that's how that works. 

 

I use a microwave everyday, that doesn't mean I'm intimately familiar with how they work. 

 

Most people would rather have a better display, with higher graphical fidelity than just a 120Hz display. Usually "single feature" phones are never popular. 

[Trixanity]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I don't think that's how that works. 

 

I use a microwave everyday, that doesn't mean I'm intimately familiar with how they work. 

 

Most people would rather have a better display, with higher graphical fidelity than just a 120Hz display. Usually "single feature" phones are never popular. 

Intimate knowledge of the inner workings of a microwave isn't a good analogy. The analogy would be you not being aware you could heat food in the microwave but still criticising the appliance. 

 

So you're recommending a Samsung Galaxy S10 as the best phone then? That's unexpected.

[Arika]

9 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

And so which phones have 120Hz displays? Further which phones have a GPU capable of pushing that refresh rate while in games? And of those which of those are people actually using? 

 

Also I’m pretty sure the decision for 120Hz Support was the iPad Pro more than the Razer Phone. Considering how disproportionately popular the two devices are compared to each other. 

That wasn't your question. Reason for games to support 120hz is irrelevant, if android has the ability to, great, it doesn't dimish the fact that Apple can too, why are you so defensive about that?

 

Do you think that the ipad pro should be the only device allowed to run at 120hz? 

 

Its fine being an Apple fan but you don't have to shit on the competition for being able to do the same thing by hiding behind the excuse of "well how many games/phones can do 120h?" because, again, it's irrelevant.  If people want to game in their mobile @120hz then they should be locked to a specific platform and have a choice of what device to buy

 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Trixanity said:

So you're recommending a Samsung Galaxy S10 as the best phone then?

I would certainly recommend it over the Razor Phone. 

[Brooksie359]

4 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

I don't think that's how that works. 

 

I use a microwave everyday, that doesn't mean I'm intimately familiar with how they work. 

 

Most people would rather have a better display, with higher graphical fidelity than just a 120Hz display. Usually "single feature" phones are never popular. 

That is not true at all. I know a ton of people who would rather have a 144hz 1080p monitor over a 1440p 60hz just like alot of people prefer 144hz 1440p over 4k 60hz. There is a lot of people that prioritize refresh rate over resolution. 

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

any point of getting these new mid range chip over previous gen flagship, 835 / 845?

[Trixanity]

3 hours ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

any point of getting these new mid range chip over previous gen flagship, 835 / 845?

Yes. Faster single threaded performance. Better ISP and DSP. Newer WiFi chip with WiFi 6 support. Newer GPU gen (but smaller). That's vs 835. Some of the same holds true vs the 845 but mainly I'd say the ISP/DSP upgrade is the only thing that's ultimately better (due to clock speed differences and the general nature of flagship chips). The 730 is also on a newer process node and should enjoy some power efficiency advantages (8nm vs 10nm LPE and 10nm LPP respectively). I should note I'm talking about the 730/G. The 665 is not worth talking about.

 

However that leaves out any discussion of actual implementations and therefore the devices themselves. We don't know the quality of devices made with these new chips.

[D13H4RD]

And now my Note8 looks 'slow' by comparison...

[williamcll]

I am starting to get lost track in Qualcomm chip naming.

 

Currently, which ones are the fastest in 700, 600, 650+, 800?