Without the Fanboys

[Guest]

I have a pretty professional gaming channel and was wondering as to what CPU should I use for future encoding. I currently have an i5-3570k tuned up to 4.4Ghz and ASUS DIRECTCUII GTX 770. But I was wondering should I upgrade to the FX-8350. I hear that it is comparable to the i7-4930k in video editing. So what are you guy's opinions?

[_ASSASSIN_]

that was for render times, If you do more stuff than just rendering straight video's without effects, then I'd get the 8350, but it still has downgrades using AM3+, including lack of thunderbolt and pcie 3.0

[Maskot]

More cores plus more threads = better rendering always. But a 4770k will out perform an 8350 since it is hyper threaded and has the beefy powerful cores. For the money, go for the 8320 and a good cooler. For the power, go for a 4770k and go nuts.

[BallisticPeanut]

Your better off getting an i7, that way don't have to get a new motherboard.

[Guest]

But the thing is a have a pretty expensive ASUS motherboard so I should have no problem selling both and getting $350. Thereby being able to grab both the 8350 and a great ASUS counterpart on the 990FX chipset. Points taken with the PCI 3.0. 

[Bloodyvalley]

Are you seriously comparing an 8350 ($170) to a 3930k ($500)?

[zip2k4]

Keep the i5. It's not worth going from that to the 8350. I would wait it out for newer CPU releases.

^this

 

new line of cpus coming out soon anyway, your 3570k will handle  things just fine for now, why not wait and see if you can get more out of your $$$?

[helping]

Just keep your motherboard, buy the i7, and sell the i5. 

 

 

Selling everything for an 8350 and 990FX board would be a waste of a lot of money for pretty much the same (slightly worse in some scenarios) performance as an i7. 

[Guest]

Yes I am comparing the FX-8350 to a $500 dollar part. Logan from Tek Syndicate backs that claim in this particular instance. I thought we would have all learned from Linus about prices when it comes to CPUs, Core Duo (normal) Core Duo (extreme). 

[Akolyte]

I would say, go for an i7 if anything.  Wait for the new Intel CPUs to come out and the i7 (ivy bridge) should get even MORE cheaper.  The i7 has the hyper threading which is good and Intel has had faster cores for a long time.  An 8350 might have 8 cores but its not necessarily the best option.  If you put them both side by side, yes in the way of cores the 8350 can sometimes win.  But in the way of performance the i7 will easily win.  And if your not video editing and rendering like mad, you'll find the i7 to perform the best.  If you had an AMD (am3+) motherboard already, I would say otherwise because the 8350 would be cheaper but since you already have a Intel motherboard.  The i7 will be the best bang for the buck.  

[deathjester]

Comparable to the Hexa? Who uttered this statement? Let me guess Tek Syndicate? I am not even going to bother showing Hexa encoding because it kills a 4770k. I will just link 4770k vs 8350.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/836?vs=697

 

As a work machine the I5 is closer to an 8350 then a 8350 is to a 4770k...

 

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/837?vs=697

 

Multicore rendering in cinebench with overclocks and no one is running their AMD at 8350 at 5.3 ghz 24/7 lol. Look at the 5ghz as a HIGH end overclock.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

 

Single core. 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=1

 

The only thing the 8350 does in the same league with "integer cores" is unzip files (not compress them). This has nothing to do with video editing. Integer cores are "ok" at it, but nothing special. Keep in mind that a 8350 starts at 4ghz. A 5ghz is a 1 ghz oc and needs a pretty big PSU, a very expensive 990fx motherboard and it still isn't guaranteed now that they sell the highly binned chips as 9xxx's. A 4.5ghz Haswell is a higher OC because it started at 3.4-3.5 giving it a much  higher percentage and OC. That also isn't guaranteed but you are doing it on a hell of a lot less power on the cheapest z87 board they sell.   

 

My board will do 4.7 and the combo was under 300 and you can still buy it for like 350 at microcenter. A 2011 chip kicks the crap out of my 4770k and my 4770k slaughters a 8350. Haswell -E will DOUBLE that performance. IF you are going to wait for anything wait for Haswell -E. A 8350 doing faster editing then a Hexa is the biggest whopper I have ever heard.  

[CoolBeans]

Just upgrade your GPU

[Victor Golf]

Just get a 3770K and call it a day. There is no use in getting an AMD part when you could get an intel part that will perform better in most cases.

[Giddyguy]

i would just wait for a bit, both haswell and the 8350 have been out for a while and i assume newer processors should be coming out soon. At this point im not sure going from that i5 to 8350 would be worth going through the hassle.

[WoodenMarker]

It's not much of an upgrade and far from comparable to the 4930k. 

For video editing, it's still behind the 3770k.

[Geekazoid]

@MarxistPC I completely agree with @ONOTech, keep the i5 3570K. Several members on here have noticed that Intel's Ivy Bridge CPUs overclock better than the Haswell CPUs. Waiting for the next gen of Intel CPUs may be a much better option as you should notice a significant amount of performance increase going from IVY Bridge to Broadwell. Even if you just went from your 3570K to whatever the Broadwell equivelent will be (possibly i5 5670K). Of course I don't know this but I would imagine there to be a decent amount performance difference between Ivy Bridge and Broadwell. Who knows Broadwell CPUs may be able to be OCed to 7GHz or more (I wish). I still think that it's worth the wait though. If I had a CPU as good as the i5 3570K I'd wait. But that's just my opinion though.

[Priller]

I would just get a 3770K and be done.

[Guest]

Thanks for all of the advice. But I think I'll look at the i7-3770k as I see it on sale for $250. Great hyperthreading performance and plus a small increase in games like Planetside 2. 

[Geekazoid]

Thanks for all of the advice. But I think I'll look at the i7-3770k as I see it on sale for $250. Great hyperthreading performance and plus a small increase in games like Planetside 2.

Well I hope your happy with that. An i7 CPU will always out perform an i5 one. You should see a decent amount of increase going with that, especially if you choose to do some video editing.

Good luck with that i7 3770K if you end up getting it.

[Travianw135]

Stick with 1155 and upgrade to an i7, then do a larger upgrade later on when something more worthy like Haswell-E comes out.

[MetaHD]

If you are able to leverage the performance potential in a 2011 setup i'd go for that over the 8350.

 

On to the 8350 itself, might be a bit off topic, but I'd argue that the 8350 isn't really a 8-core and will not deliver the performance a full 8-core processor even tho the specs says 8-cores.

That might be a argument for another tread

[Geekazoid]

If you are able to leverage the performance potential in a 2011 setup i'd go for that over the 8350.

On to the 8350 itself, might be a bit off topic, but I'd argue that the 8350 isn't really a 8-core and will not deliver the performance a full 8-core processor even tho the specs says 8-cores.

That might be a argument for another tread

Ooh! You better be careful, ya might start an all out war with that comment (just kidding) .

[MetaHD]

Ooh! You better be careful, ya might start an all out AMD fanboy war (just kidding) .

I know That's why I mentioned that this is not the tread to do it in

[Geekazoid]

I know That's why I mentioned that this is not the tread to do it in

Aargh! You replied to my post before I edited it. I changed it because I thought I might get moderated with saying that.

[Jumper118]

Yes I am comparing the FX-8350 to a $500 dollar part. Logan from Tek Syndicate backs that claim in this particular instance. I thought we would have all learned from Linus about prices when it comes to CPUs, Core Duo (normal) Core Duo (extreme). 

 

 

Yes I am comparing the FX-8350 to a $500 dollar part. Logan from Tek Syndicate backs that claim in this particular instance. I thought we would have all learned from Linus about prices when it comes to CPUs, Core Duo (normal) Core Duo (extreme). 

M pretty sure logan compared them in streaming not video rendering and even then its only better on that one program that they used for the test. Cinebench is a rendering test and the 4930k>4770k>8350>4670k