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Asus Strix ROG RTX 2080 OC or Asus Strix ROG RTX 2080 ti OC???

richintheveins

Sooooo I have buyers remorse to an extent, but I'm wondering if I''m being a little ridiculous. I typically upgrade my PC every 5 years. Due to this I try to future proof myself by purchasing the best mainstream hardware so I will be good for a while. This is my third build and the first time I didn't buy the best mainstream GPU. The RTX 2080 ti price was just insane!! I was able to pick up the Asus Strix ROG RTX  2080 OC for $799.99 plus 5% off for using the store card. 

 

*****If you have a micro center in your area it is the TRUTH****

 

Ok back to the story. I only upgraded the main parts as the rest of my things (PSU, case, monitor, etc) was all good. current upgrades: 

 

i9 9900k 

32 GB of Hyper X predator ddr4 

500 GB 970 EVo NVME 

Maximus Hero XI 

Asus Strix ROG RTX 2080 OC

 

I turned on Division 2 and it was awesome ?........but something was missing. After dropping over a grand I was only getting around 75 - 120 FPS on ultra settings running on a 1440 display. I thought it would be more. 

 

Did I mess up by not paying the massive premium for the 2080 ti? Idk I just expected to get higher FPS. My CHG70 27" can do 144 fps based on its 144 hz display. 

 

Feedback would be greatly appreciated.

 

                                                             It's never Enough........

i9 9900KS

H150i Pro

3 x Corsair ML 140 mm fans

3 x Corsair ML 120 mm fans

Commander Pro 

Maximus Hero XI

32 GB DDR4 HyperX Predator rgb (4 x 8GB) @ 4000mhz

ROG Strix RTX 2080 TI OC                                                

2 X 500 GB 970 EVO NVME  in Raid 1                           

500 GB 850 EVO SSD

2  x 1 TB 860 EVO

6 TB IronWolf Pro HDD

EVGA Platinum 1000 Watt PSU 

Fractal Design Meshify S2

K95 RGB Platinum Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 

Logitech G604

KLIPSCH PROMEDIA 2.1

Corsair HS70 SE

LG 38GL950G + LG 27GL850-B

 

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what do you expect? Without using RTX features, the 2080's DX11 performance is just 1080Ti level, and only a bit better than 1080ti in DX12 and Vulkan.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, richintheveins said:

I turned on Division 2 and it was awesome ?........but something was missing. After dropping over a grand I was only getting around 75 - 120 FPS on ultra settings running on a 1440 display. I thought it would be more. 

Your problem is the *ULTRA* settings.

 

Refer to this video:

 

 

 

You have two ways around it, either you replace the RTX 2080 for a RTX 2080 Ti (honestly I'd have gone 9700K+2080Ti myself instead of 9900K+2080 for games) or you just learn to better adjust the in-game graphical settings.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

what do you expect? Without using RTX features, the 2080's DX11 performance is just 1080Ti level, and only a bit better than 1080ti in DX12 and Vulkan.

Well prior to this upgrade I was running an i7 4790k and an Asus ROG GTX 980 ti. So I can definitely see a massive difference in performance in every avenue. I know its a tad bit better than the 1080 ti but I guess based on the hardware I expected to get better than 75 to 80 on average. I get your point though. 

 

                                                             It's never Enough........

i9 9900KS

H150i Pro

3 x Corsair ML 140 mm fans

3 x Corsair ML 120 mm fans

Commander Pro 

Maximus Hero XI

32 GB DDR4 HyperX Predator rgb (4 x 8GB) @ 4000mhz

ROG Strix RTX 2080 TI OC                                                

2 X 500 GB 970 EVO NVME  in Raid 1                           

500 GB 850 EVO SSD

2  x 1 TB 860 EVO

6 TB IronWolf Pro HDD

EVGA Platinum 1000 Watt PSU 

Fractal Design Meshify S2

K95 RGB Platinum Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 

Logitech G604

KLIPSCH PROMEDIA 2.1

Corsair HS70 SE

LG 38GL950G + LG 27GL850-B

 

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14 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Your problem is the *ULTRA* settings.

 

Refer to this video:

 

 

 

You have two ways around it, either you replace the RTX 2080 for a RTX 2080 Ti (honestly I'd have gone 9700K+2080Ti myself instead of 9900K+2080 for games) or you just learn to better adjust the in-game graphical settings.

I strongly thought about the 9700k but all the benchmarks it was getting was out performed by the i9 9900k. I don't upgrade very often so I wanted to make sure it was the best I could afford. Plus the 8700k has outperformed the 9700k in some gaming benchmarks as well. The i9 was the champ in almost everything when it came to mainstream intel cpus. Sometimes not by much but still the champ. 

 

Yeah I'm thinking about doing the return/exchange and paying the additional $500 or so for the TI. It just sucks the price gap is so large. I live for ultra settings! lol. Yeah If I drop the settings to high, remove HDR, etc than my FPS skyrockets. If it was year 3 into my build I wouldn't care but the first day I want to feel the power. 

 

                                                             It's never Enough........

i9 9900KS

H150i Pro

3 x Corsair ML 140 mm fans

3 x Corsair ML 120 mm fans

Commander Pro 

Maximus Hero XI

32 GB DDR4 HyperX Predator rgb (4 x 8GB) @ 4000mhz

ROG Strix RTX 2080 TI OC                                                

2 X 500 GB 970 EVO NVME  in Raid 1                           

500 GB 850 EVO SSD

2  x 1 TB 860 EVO

6 TB IronWolf Pro HDD

EVGA Platinum 1000 Watt PSU 

Fractal Design Meshify S2

K95 RGB Platinum Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 

Logitech G604

KLIPSCH PROMEDIA 2.1

Corsair HS70 SE

LG 38GL950G + LG 27GL850-B

 

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1 minute ago, richintheveins said:

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The thing is if gaming is the only thing you care about the i9 9900K makes absolutely no sense.

 

It games much the same as an i7 8700K which is about half the price, your motherboard of choice also is the most overpriced z390 of all, An Aorus Elite would be just as good but considerably cheaper.

 

32GB of memory also seems excessive, 16GB is enough for any game and still leaves you enough for multi-tasking.

 

My point here is that you over-spend where you didn't have to, an i7 8700K on an Aorus Elite would be sufficiently cheaper to afford the RTX 2080 Ti and your gaming performance would be much better, like an i7 8700K + 2080 Ti will outperform an i9 9900K + 2080 on any game you try.

 

There's no way around it, for games the GPU will always be the more important thing... I know it's a bit pointless to cry over spilled milk now, but eh...

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

The thing is if gaming is the only thing you care about the i9 9900K makes absolutely no sense.

 

It games much the same as an i7 8700K which is about half the price, your motherboard of choice also is the most overpriced z390 of all, An Aorus Elite would be just as good but considerably cheaper.

 

32GB of memory also seems excessive, 16GB is enough for any game and still leaves you enough for multi-tasking.

 

My point here is that you over-spend where you didn't have to, an i7 8700K on an Aorus Elite would be sufficiently cheaper to afford the RTX 2080 Ti and your gaming performance would be much better, like an i7 8700K + 2080 Ti will outperform an i9 9900K + 2080 on any game you try.

 

There's no way around it, for games the GPU will always be the more important thing... I know it's a bit pointless to cry over spilled milk now, but eh...

While I'm disappointed with the FPS in gaming my computer is mainly a workstation as I only game around 30% of the time if not less. I do multitasking, video editing, and rendering as well. I'm very happy with the performance there just the gaming was in question. Thus the reason I purchased higher amts of ram and the i9. I still think its overkill, but I felt it was important to explain I'm not purely a gamer. 

 

                                                             It's never Enough........

i9 9900KS

H150i Pro

3 x Corsair ML 140 mm fans

3 x Corsair ML 120 mm fans

Commander Pro 

Maximus Hero XI

32 GB DDR4 HyperX Predator rgb (4 x 8GB) @ 4000mhz

ROG Strix RTX 2080 TI OC                                                

2 X 500 GB 970 EVO NVME  in Raid 1                           

500 GB 850 EVO SSD

2  x 1 TB 860 EVO

6 TB IronWolf Pro HDD

EVGA Platinum 1000 Watt PSU 

Fractal Design Meshify S2

K95 RGB Platinum Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 

Logitech G604

KLIPSCH PROMEDIA 2.1

Corsair HS70 SE

LG 38GL950G + LG 27GL850-B

 

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Update: Went today and exchanged the Asus 2080 OC for the Asus 2080 ti OC. It made it a better workstation as well. I didn't want to pay the premium, but since I already invested in a pretty expensive rig I though what the heck....

 

Good to go now!

 

                                                             It's never Enough........

i9 9900KS

H150i Pro

3 x Corsair ML 140 mm fans

3 x Corsair ML 120 mm fans

Commander Pro 

Maximus Hero XI

32 GB DDR4 HyperX Predator rgb (4 x 8GB) @ 4000mhz

ROG Strix RTX 2080 TI OC                                                

2 X 500 GB 970 EVO NVME  in Raid 1                           

500 GB 850 EVO SSD

2  x 1 TB 860 EVO

6 TB IronWolf Pro HDD

EVGA Platinum 1000 Watt PSU 

Fractal Design Meshify S2

K95 RGB Platinum Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 

Logitech G604

KLIPSCH PROMEDIA 2.1

Corsair HS70 SE

LG 38GL950G + LG 27GL850-B

 

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