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GitRDone73

I am building a new rig strictly for gaming, I'll be ordering in 36 hours I've seen lots of deals and price cuts, but like everyone else just want the best bang for buck... any help is appreciated, rip my list apart & rebuild it, criticize, whatever, all input welcome no preference on parts or manufacturer.  This is USD based, and I need everything.  My last PC was stolen shortly after I built it, due to lack of home security, that problem is fixed. My max is $1500 with upgrades being important for longevity.  Is the mouse good enough?  Will there be a bottleneck issue? Are my parts junk? Can I get something better for the same amount? Thanks again to all who contribute...  Current build as follows:

 

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Only thing I would change is the cooler. You shouldn't buy cheap AIOs.. Air coolers are just way better for the same price.. Even good AIOs are only so good, they're more for looks than performance, but that one isn't good for anything.. 

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Single fan AIOs are bad price to performance, you could spend less on an air cooler and have better temps, otherwise it looks fine.

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Skimming through, I can tell you that you can get a 1700 8-core for less than a 2600X 6-core, if you'd like. If you had an increased budget, I would suggest getting at least a 1440p monitor if you absolutely have to get anything above 24-25 inches, because the screen door effect is really noticeable on larger panels like that 27-inch one you chose out. If strictly for gaming, you might not value color accuracy in a display, so I can forgive the fact that it is a TN panel, though that 2ms response time is pretty high for a TN panel. Headphones are largely down to personal preference, so take advantage of any return policies if you find that headset to be not up to snuff, or just try a pair in a store. I cannot find any glaring issues and what I've said are mostly just my two cents.

1 minute ago, ChewToy! said:

Only thing I would change is the cooler. You shouldn't buy cheap AIOs.. Air coolers are just way better for the same price.. Even good AIOs are only so good, they're more for looks than performance, but that one isn't good for anything.. 

 

Just now, Cyracus said:

Single fan AIOs are bad price to performance, you could spend less on an air cooler and have better temps, otherwise it looks fine.

Okay, OP, you should look into a bigger rad for your cooler. I don't know if you plan on overclocking, but with that little thing, you're better off with using a stock cooler (included in the 1700, non X)

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Like everyone said, i would drop the AIO cooler. The stock cooler with the 2600x is more than capable of cooling it.

May want to consider additional storage. SSDs are great, but you may want to consider an hdd for smaller or unimportant files such as music, documents, pictures, videos, etc. 

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Changes
CPU Cooler same teir of CPU cooler on the performance tier just  cheaper
CPU change (2600 is a 2600X pretty much not worth the extra $35)
Found pretty much the same ram for cheaper and it's black not blue so doesn't stand out as much (might matter to you might not))
using RTX 2070 now not 2060 will affect gaming performance and is worth some of the other minor sacrifices
 

Forgot the 2600 has a good stock cooler if your not overclocking use that instead saving you $40 which could be used for pocket change or 2700 (would put you $20 over if you did that though but that comes with a cooler and extra 2 cores are nice to have)

 

 

 

 

 

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The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

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This is strictly gaming all music, video, etc will be on laptop.  So I did plan on using an OC software to boost performance and at same time I'm okay with cooling the hell out of it so what CPU fan should I get, do I need extra case fans? Does the tower seem proportionate to the build?

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While I am at it, I'd also replace the mouse with something better. I recommend the Logitech G203. It probably has a better mouse sensor than whatever is in the Redragon one.

 

Also, unless there is any reason to go with the newer 2600, I would go for the 1700, which, for the same price, has 2 additional cores. It will help.

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1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

CPU Cooler same teir of CPU cooler on the performance tier just  cheaper
CPU change (2600 is a 2600X pretty much not worth the extra $35)

honestly AMDs stock cooler will be very competitive with that AIO, just so you're aware. If you just want the look then that's fine, it's your pc, just make sure you remove the plastic from the waterblock ?

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5 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

Changes
CPU Cooler same teir of CPU cooler on the performance tier just  cheaper
CPU change (2600 is a 2600X pretty much not worth the extra $35)
Found pretty much the same ram for cheaper and it's black not blue so doesn't stand out as much (might matter to you might not))
using RTX 2070 now not 2060 will affect gaming performance and is worth some of the other minor sacrifices

I have been reading about alot of the 2070 and 2080 having death issues shortly after being installed, so your saying I should go with the 2700?

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Just now, Cyracus said:

honestly AMDs stock cooler will be very competitive with that AIO, just so you're aware. If you just want the look then that's fine, it's your pc, just make sure you remove the plastic from the waterblock ?

I forgot that the stock coolers aren't all shit anymore and AMDs stock coolers are pretty good. (and I went for a CPU cooler which is good enough) also that CPU cooler is better than the stock coolers (not massively but still better)

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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Just now, GitRDone73 said:

I have been reading about alot of the 2070 and 2080 having death issues shortly after being installed, so your saying I should go with the 2700?

That was when it first launched you should be fine now (and hell if your not it will be replaced by your warranty) also it wasn't every card that was affect only a few so you'd just be unlucky to get one that did even if the problem still fully existed

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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4 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

That was when it first launched you should be fine now (and hell if your not it will be replaced by your warranty) also it wasn't every card that was affect only a few so you'd just be unlucky to get one that did even if the problem still fully existed

So to keep everything in perspective I should goto the 2070? and the 2700 mobo?  and still come in @ $1500 I don't see how that's possible without taking away from other components and getting lesser quality

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1 minute ago, GitRDone73 said:

So to keep everything in perspective I should goto the 2070? and the 2700 mobo?  and still come in @ $1500 I don't see how that's possible without taking away from other components and getting lesser quality

The list is below. The parts in this list are pretty much just as good (motherboards ever so slightly worse but nothing in a meaningful way. the ram is the same just cheaper pretty much and by using a stock cooler your saving $90 enabling most of this)

 

 

 

 

 

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

 

Uh whats that a confirmation? lol

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Just now, GitRDone73 said:

Uh whats that a confirmation? lol

I pressed the wrong button, wheeshed :P 

Edited the comment now to say something

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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2 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

I pressed the wrong button, wheeshed :P 

Edited the comment now to say something

Dang and it only went up like $80 hmmm well hell now I'll need is a sale on all items in 3 days lol

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Just now, GitRDone73 said:

Dang and it only went up like $80 hmmm well hell now I'll need is a sale on all items in 3 days lol

yea and the performance difference for $80 is worth it

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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Just now, grimreeper132 said:

yea and the performance difference for $80 is worth it

Okay well hell shoot the moon, I reckon...  I'm a prime member so most of it will he here within a week , the rest who knows...  this is going to be interesting, should I be worried about the stock thermal paste, or onboard sound of that Mobo?

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Just now, GitRDone73 said:

Okay well hell shoot the moon, I reckon...  I'm a prime member so most of it will he here within a week , the rest who knows...  this is going to be interesting, should I be worried about the stock thermal paste, or onboard sound of that Mobo?

Sound on Motherboards has been pretty good for a while now and if you want better sound you would need to use an external DAC etc. anyways. As for thermal paste paste the stock thermal paste will be fine but if your worried it won't be get some on amazon while your at it, good thermal paste is $5-8 max normally (NT-H1 is pretty good and not that much) but if your not overclocking stock is fine.

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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32 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

Sound on Motherboards has been pretty good for a while now and if you want better sound you would need to use an external DAC etc. anyways. As for thermal paste paste the stock thermal paste will be fine but if your worried it won't be get some on amazon while your at it, good thermal paste is $5-8 max normally (NT-H1 is pretty good and not that much) but if your not overclocking stock is fine.

in your opinion do i need to overclock for pubg, sniper elite etc and what is a DAC? Digital audio converter?

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  • 2 weeks later...

Okay so PC is built and put together this is the initial benchmarks...

UserBenchmarks: Game 113%, Desk 95%, Work 102%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X - 101.1%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070 - 134.2%
SSD:  CT1000MX500SSD4 1TB - 109.8%
RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3000 C16 2x8GB - 78.9%
MBD: MSI B450 Tomahawk

 

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Do I need to overclock my Ram?  The BIOS has alot of options and I'm not sure what I should change if anything..

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