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Type 2501
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I am now using a MSI 1070 Gaming X, which is running just fine for 1440p gaming.

But now I have a chance to replace it with a XFX Vega 56 double edition. With no extra cost. I had read lots of problem about vega, especially the XFX custom card (which explain what it is so cheap I guess?). Does any of you actually own the card? It is better than the reference card? Or should I just keep my 1070 and wait until there is other better choice?

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XFX's card issue seems to be related to thermal paste (and not this brand either, Powercolor was also caught selling cards with zero paste), just reapplying that should do.

 

6 minutes ago, Type 2501 said:

It is better than the reference card?

Same components as reference card, but better cooler (or rather, the reference card is a very low standard)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I heard the thermal paste issue, and it will be a non-issue for me: I repaste and clean every second-handed card I bought. but there is also someone on amazon suggested it has very bad coil whine when paired with some psu. So I was just looking for anyone if they came across the same issue. But it seems it is a really rare card out there.

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Same components as reference card

I don't know much about that, if the VRM are the same as the reference card, I would be more than happy. But since it is a cut-down PCB, I really don't know how good it is being built.

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6 minutes ago, Type 2501 said:

I heard the thermal paste issue, and it will be a non-issue for me: I repaste and clean every second-handed card I bought. but there is also someone on amazon suggested it has very bad coil whine when paired with some psu. So I was just looking for anyone if they came across the same issue. But it seems it is a really rare card out there.

I don't know much about that, if the VRM are the same as the reference card, I would be more than happy. But since it is a cut-down PCB, I really don't know how good it is being built.

coil whine is a common problem for high power draw AMD cards in general, the whiney type of inductors handle high amount of current so is used a lot on these cards.

 

Cut down PCB doesnt matter, literally 30% of the length is just unused space to make the card longer and fit the cooler.

 

AMD-Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-PCB_1.j

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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A much smaller PCB is a side effect when using HBM, it was meant to lower production cost(if HBM isn't so damn expensive) and improve power delivery path. And I heard the reference vega card has very good VRM, just can't say the same about its cooler.

 

XFX usually makes good GPU, the rx590 fatboy is solid. I am just a bit surprised about how little info about the vega card is available.

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1 hour ago, Type 2501 said:

I am now using a MSI 1070 Gaming X, which is running just fine for 1440p gaming.

But now I have a chance to replace it with a XFX Vega 56 double edition. With no extra cost. I had read lots of problem about vega, especially the XFX custom card (which explain what it is so cheap I guess?). Does any of you actually own the card? It is better than the reference card? Or should I just keep my 1070 and wait until there is other better choice?

A free swap? id do that.

Insert ram related question here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1197132-setting-ram-speed-xmp-docp-for-dummies/

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2 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

A free swap? id do that.

I just happened to found out I can sell my 1070 at the same price I can get a XFX vega 56, so ya, it is a free swap if you don't count the transportation and time to trade with two guys.

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On the paper I guess the Vega 56 is the winner but in real world performance the are about neck to neck. So if the transition is based on getting higher performance then you probably won't see any, if you don't do games and computing that is optimized better on the AMD side of things. If the reasons are for looks, than go with what aesthetically pleases your eyes the most.

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1 hour ago, Mattias Edeslatt said:

...On the paper I guess the Vega 56 is the winner but in real world performance the are about neck to neck. So if the transition is based on getting higher performance then you probably won't see any, if you don't do games and computing that is optimized better on the AMD side of things. If the reasons are for looks, than go with what aesthetically pleases your eyes the most.

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You are very right, and it really wakes me up. Maybe I just kind of like to try many different hw for fun. Moreover, I didn't really like how nvidia conduct business (but not to a degree to tolerate a worse experience just to avoid nvidia). 

 

I don't have as much time to game as I used to (sad). But I do need to edit videos with black magic resolve and handbrake. Does GPU acceleration count as computing?
 

I also work with some Adobe stuff but I am quite sure that GPU gots nothing to do with Photoshop or Lightroom.

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@Type 2501, GPU-acceleration is by all means computing and I am with you on the NVIDIA don't use fair play against its AIB or it's reviewers. 

 

Regarding PS and LR GPU-acceleration should be a thing, but if AMD or NVIDIA is the preferred brand, I don't know.  VRAM also should be a thing and Vega uses HBA2 and is blazing fast compared to regular GDDR5/5X

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