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8700K vs 9700K

Hi guys,

I'm going to upgrade my build finally ! The only thing i still not have decided is the CPU.
What i'm going to do with the pc : Most of the time i'll be gaming (GTA V, Call of Duty black ops 4, CS:GO, League of legends, pubg, Sea of thieves, nba 2K19 etc etc..) The 2 cpu's i'm thinking about is 9700K and 8700K , both with the Z390/Z370 Pro gaming carbon. Now comes the difficult part, as i sometimes want to live stream (with obs) to twitch, my thought was getting the 8700K (eventho that cpu is around 30€'s more) cause it has more threads. The 9700K is 30€ cheaper than the 8700K, and is newer. My gpu i allready have and that's a 1070Ti , which will be upgraded in a few months.

So what do you guys think what would be the best cpu to livestream and game at the same time?
The streaming doesnt have to be 1080P/60FPS , streaming at decent quality on 720P would be more then enough for me. 

So what do you guys say? 8700K (380€) or 9700K (340€) for livestreaming and gaming

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Since the 9700k is cheaper, get that.

 

8 cores is cool, too.

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8700k has hyperthreading, so gaming while streaming will be slightly smoother than it would be on the 9700k. But honestly the difference won't be crucial 

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11 minutes ago, Slottr said:

8700k has hyperthreading, so gaming while streaming will be slightly smoother than it would be on the 9700k. But honestly the difference won't be crucial 

So you mean that as in more stable fps in games or?..

Also besides streaming, the 8700 or 9700 will perform better in games?

 

10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i think you'll be fine with both.

i would highly recommend looking into the aorus linup on z390, sweet sweet 12 phase

Which one specific?

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Maybe a Ryzen 7 CPU? New CPUs are hitting the market soon btw so follow CES coverage and subsequent pricing of all processors 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

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9700k doesnt use paste and can clock a tiny bit higher when overclocked, so that's obviously better. Cinebench scores are pretty much identical.

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

elite, pro, ultra, master

 

all 12 phase.

It is better than the Z390 Pro carbon from MSi?

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6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Maybe a Ryzen 7 CPU? New CPUs are hitting the market soon btw so follow CES coverage and subsequent pricing of all processors 

I'm pretty much an intel guy tbh ^^ , but right now i'm just looking in those 2, you think they will pricedrop too?

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4 minutes ago, DylanDB said:

It is better than the Z390 Pro carbon from MSi?

Oh yes you totally should reconsider and go for the Aorus line up, that's like the only 'absolute' truth in Z390 chipset mobos, how that line up simply made the entire competition meaningless.

 

Like every one said for gaming the i7 8700K and i7 9700K are what you can call "about the same".

 

Whichever is cheaper is the way to go.

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4 minutes ago, DylanDB said:

I'm pretty much an intel guy tbh ^^ , but right now i'm just looking in those 2, you think they will pricedrop too?

No point in being an "Intel guy," there's nothing special about them. Get the best value. Intel might be obstinate enough not to reduce prices to compete, and the 14nm shortage makes Intel CPUs a bad buy right now. High quality streaming from an 8 core 16 thread CPU? Either get an i9 9900k or a Ryzen 7 for under half the price.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Oh yes you totally should reconsider and go for the Aorus line up, that's like the only 'absolute' truth in Z390 chipset mobos, how that line up simply made the entire competition meaningless.

 

Like every one said for gaming the i7 8700K and i7 9700K are what you can call "about the same".

 

Whichever is cheaper is the way to go.

And what about the streaming part? Will the threads of the 8700 give me advantage there, or will it be unnoticable?

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Just now, DylanDB said:

And what about the streaming part? Will the threads of the 8700 give me advantage there, or will it be unnoticable?

To me who uses QuickSync it's meaningless since both features the same iGPU.

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Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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6 minutes ago, DylanDB said:

And what about the streaming part? Will the threads of the 8700 give me advantage there, or will it be unnoticable?

for streaming, 8700k might be better, but if you are not gonna delid the 8700k, the 9700k will clock higher, it's really close, i recommend the 9700k if you are not delidding.

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I would go as new as possible pref with an asus board :) 

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54 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Oh yes you totally should reconsider and go for the Aorus line up, that's like the only 'absolute' truth in Z390 chipset mobos, how that line up simply made the entire competition meaningless.

 

Like every one said for gaming the i7 8700K and i7 9700K are what you can call "about the same".

 

Whichever is cheaper is the way to go. 

Okay, so what's the difference between these mobo's of aorus? 

 

The Z390 Pro (wifi) : 160€ (non wifi) 170 (wifi)

Z390 Elite : 147€

Z390 Ultra : 192€

Z390 Master : 235€

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1 hour ago, LukeSavenije said:

yes

Okay, so what's the difference between these mobo's of aorus? 

 

The Z390 Pro (wifi) : 160€ (non wifi) 170 (wifi)

Z390 Elite : 147€

Z390 Ultra : 192€

Z390 Master : 235€

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