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Upgrade or New rig - RTX2080ti

deoxir
By deoxir
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I looking to buy an RTX2080ti for 4K60fps gaming and I cannot decide between upgrading my existing setup and selling it altogether and get a brand new tower.

My current rig does feel a little outdated to me:

Intel Core i7-6700(non-K)@3.4GHz
Gigabyte B150HD3 motherboard

Corsair Value-select 2*8GB DDR4 2133MHz memory

Aorus GTX1080

Some Thermaltake 630W 80+ Bronze PSU

1 HDD and 3 SSD
 

As you can see, this build here was stitched together under a somewhat tight budget in order to fit the 1080 in, but I've been quite comfortable with it at 1440p. Considering the 2080ti has greater processing power and a higher tdp, I'm concerned my current rig might not fully utilize what the new card has to offer, though at the same time, I don't want to spend a lot of money on a new setup and get trivial improvements in return. My target is 4K@60fps high-ultra for major AAA titles. 

Thanks in advance, any insight is appreciated.

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The CPU probably wouldn't bottleneck as you're looking at higher resolutions where the CPU doesn't matter as much.

 

If you want a new CPU, go for the Ryzen 7 1700.

 

Change power supply literally as soon as possible.

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If you were to throw a used 7700 (or even 7700k since the clocks are higher even without OC) then you'd be one generation newer and faster, but I personally feel like upgrading to the 2080ti then seeing if the performance is up to your standards is the ideal path.

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I would much rather get a better CPU, faster memory, better PSU, and motherboard than a 2080ti. As you could buy 2 1080tis and still have money left over compared to 1 2080ti with as of now no benefit for the massive price tag

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What's your budget? Do you intend to use RTX when it comes out? Do you plan on getting a 4k display with this setup or buying it for a new setup? Remember if you go the RTX route, 2080Ti alone will put your budget above $1300 and its not that easily available (i.e, prices will go even higher). My suggestion if you are not going to use RTX and you don't mind lowering or turning off few settings at 4k, you should go for a used or even a new 1080Ti instead. If you got the money, you could go and get those 2080Tis and rest assured it will last a while (its still over priced for what it offers right now, imo)

 

Oh and by the way, if you are only going to use it for gaming, that 6700K is fine. You can upgrade to better CPUs once games start using multiple cores. At your res & fps, it will do fine.

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6 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

The CPU probably wouldn't bottleneck as you're looking at higher resolutions where the CPU doesn't matter as much.

 

If you want a new CPU, go for the Ryzen 7 1700.

 

Change power supply literally as soon as possible.

 

6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

If you were to throw a used 7700 (or even 7700k since the clocks are higher even without OC) then you'd be one generation newer and faster, but I personally feel like upgrading to the 2080ti then seeing if the performance is up to your standards is the ideal path.

Hey thanks for the replies. I agree that at 4K the system doesn't utilize the CPU a lot, so yeah I tend not to worry about the CPU too much. Might consider a used 7700K if the situation so demands a CPU upgrade, that way I don't have to get a new board for the processor. Thanks for the input.

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15 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

The CPU probably wouldn't bottleneck as you're looking at higher resolutions where the CPU doesn't matter as much.

 

If you want a new CPU, go for the Ryzen 7 1700.

 

Change power supply literally as soon as possible.

Would you mind explaining why there's such need to replace my PSU? Been using it for a while and everything's fine so far.

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13 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I would much rather get a better CPU, faster memory, better PSU, and motherboard than a 2080ti. As you could buy 2 1080tis and still have money left over compared to 1 2080ti with as of now no benefit for the massive price tag

 

11 minutes ago, Ezilkannan said:

What's your budget? Do you intend to use RTX when it comes out? Do you plan on getting a 4k display with this setup or buying it for a new setup? Remember if you go the RTX route, 2080Ti alone will put your budget above $1300 and its not that easily available (i.e, prices will go even higher). My suggestion if you are not going to use RTX and you don't mind lowering or turning off few settings at 4k, you should go for a used or even a new 1080Ti instead. If you got the money, you could go and get those 2080Tis and rest assured it will last a while (its still over priced for what it offers right now, imo)

Hey thanks for the replies. I would have considered the 1080ti if this was a year back, but for AAA titles at 4K, the 1080ti is still not gonna cut it. From a few benchmarks I've seen on the web, the 1080ti only does about 30fps on high settings and 50fps on medium in FFXV Windows Edition (it IS a demanding game, but I think it represents what gaming has to offer in the coming few years), while the 2080ti does about 60 on ultra. I'm also not considering SLI - It's hot and humid where I live. The heat output alone could kill me if I'm not wary, and besides with SLI getting less and less support over the years, I just don't feel confident enough to go with that kinda setup.

Thank you again for the suggestions though! Really appreciate it.

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Hey thanks for the replies. I would have considered the 1080ti if this was a year back, but for AAA titles at 4K, the 1080ti is still not gonna cut it. From a few benchmarks I've seen on the web, the 1080ti only does about 30fps on high settings and 50fps on medium in FFXV Windows Edition (it IS a demanding game, but I think it represents what gaming has to offer in the coming few years), while the 2080ti does about 60 on ultra. I'm also not considering SLI - It's hot and humid where I live. The heat output alone could kill me if I'm not wary, and besides with SLI getting less and less support over the years, I just don't feel confident enough to go with that kinda setup.

Thank you again for the suggestions though! Really appreciate it.

I don't see the 2080ti as viable as it can do 4k60FPS in most, not all AAA titles, right now. There's a ton of new tech crammed in so there is more likely to be newer better versions sooner than Pascal, if there's competition from Intel and AMD.

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15 hours ago, deoxir said:

 

Hey thanks for the replies. I would have considered the 1080ti if this was a year back, but for AAA titles at 4K, the 1080ti is still not gonna cut it. From a few benchmarks I've seen on the web, the 1080ti only does about 30fps on high settings and 50fps on medium in FFXV Windows Edition (it IS a demanding game, but I think it represents what gaming has to offer in the coming few years), while the 2080ti does about 60 on ultra. I'm also not considering SLI - It's hot and humid where I live. The heat output alone could kill me if I'm not wary, and besides with SLI getting less and less support over the years, I just don't feel confident enough to go with that kinda setup.

Thank you again for the suggestions though! Really appreciate it.

60 fps on ultra? I must have missed that, can you point to your source?

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2 hours ago, Ezilkannan said:

60 fps on ultra? I must have missed that, can you point to your source?

I came across this on YouTube: 

 and from his gameplay I am seeing 55-70 fps with gameworks off. At one point it dipped to 50 fps during combat and while there isn't much credibility to the video itself as the guy didn't even list his settings, I think it does show that it's doing well at 4K and at least high settings from what I'm seeing, considering this is not an easy game to run to begin with.

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18 hours ago, BuckGup said:

I don't see the 2080ti as viable as it can do 4k60FPS in most, not all AAA titles, right now. There's a ton of new tech crammed in so there is more likely to be newer better versions sooner than Pascal, if there's competition from Intel and AMD.

I totally understand what you're suggesting. Maybe raytracing would get dropped next year and the next card would just be about raw processing power, who knows. 

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1 hour ago, deoxir said:

I came across this on YouTube: 

 and from his gameplay I am seeing 55-70 fps with gameworks off. At one point it dipped to 50 fps during combat and while there isn't much credibility to the video itself as the guy didn't even list his settings, I think it does show that it's doing well at 4K and at least high settings from what I'm seeing, considering this is not an easy game to run to begin with.

 For that settings the 1080Ti won't be too far off either. Also I think FFXV isn't a proper reflection of what we can expect in near future (GN did an article about the problems with it). 1080Ti does an average of 60fps on most current AAA titles at High settings. 2080Ti will obviously be better, but its not worth the price that you pay, in my opinion. But if you don't mind it, get the 2080Ti.

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4 hours ago, Ezilkannan said:

 For that settings the 1080Ti won't be too far off either. Also I think FFXV isn't a proper reflection of what we can expect in near future (GN did an article about the problems with it). 1080Ti does an average of 60fps on most current AAA titles at High settings. 2080Ti will obviously be better, but its not worth the price that you pay, in my opinion. But if you don't mind it, get the 2080Ti.

I see. Then I suppose it wouldn't hurt to do more research on the 1080ti and the games I play before I make a move. Thanks!

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