Firefox 57 (aka Quantum) out now. Huge performance improvements.

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Just a random post: It seems that on Nightly, if you hover over a tab, it will show its PID.

 

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13 minutes ago, tjcater said:

Just a random post: It seems that on Nightly, if you hover over a tab, it will show its PID.

 

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It's sad when an on topic post is considered "random"

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Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

It's sad when an on topic post is considered "random"

To be fair, I would say that this topic post is on Firefox 57 while mine was on 59

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3 minutes ago, tjcater said:

To be fair, I would say that this topic post is on Firefox 57 while mine was on 59

how are you that far ahead?  Australia maybe?

[Guest]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

how are you that far ahead?  Australia maybe?

FIrefox -> 57

Beta/Developer Edition -> 58

Nightly -> 59

Just in the middle of no where USA

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

I wiped my computer, installed FF57, logged into FF57, and none of my stuff populated =( .. addons, theme, bookmarks, and settings all gone. Anyone else have this issue?

[dalekphalm]

45 minutes ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

I wiped my computer, installed FF57, logged into FF57, and none of my stuff populated =( .. addons, theme, bookmarks, and settings all gone. Anyone else have this issue?

Might be a dumb question, but were you signed into your FireFox Sync account before the wipe, and after the wipe did you sign back in?

 

Some plugins may be incompatible with the new version. Bookmarks, etc, should come back immediately after the first sync.

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2 hours ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

I wiped my computer, installed FF57, logged into FF57, and none of my stuff populated =( .. addons, theme, bookmarks, and settings all gone. Anyone else have this issue?

If you read the details, FF sync is not like google's cloud solution.  They don't actually store any data, it's just a facilitator for peer to peer syncing, so if you are logged in one more than one system, settings will sync from one to the other, but if you erase all at once you start fresh

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

If you read the details, FF sync is not like google's cloud solution.  They don't actually store any data, it's just a facilitator for peer to peer syncing, so if you are logged in one more than one system, settings will sync from one to the other, but if you erase all at once you start fresh

Oh mannnnnnnn I never realized that's how it worked. I disconnected my sync on my sons computer last week so he could make his own. I've always had his synced so whenever I did a fresh install I was still logged in somewhere. 

[dalekphalm]

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

If you read the details, FF sync is not like google's cloud solution.  They don't actually store any data, it's just a facilitator for peer to peer syncing, so if you are logged in one more than one system, settings will sync from one to the other, but if you erase all at once you start fresh

I'm not 100% confident that's how it works.

 

Can you confirm a source?

 

Because FF Sync documentation online says this:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ive-lost-my-firefox-sync-account-information

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Firefox Sync works by storing your data on Mozilla servers and synchronizing it with your computers and devices.

9 minutes ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

Oh mannnnnnnn I never realized that's how it worked. I disconnected my sync on my sons computer last week so he could make his own. I've always had his synced so whenever I did a fresh install I was still logged in somewhere. 

 

 

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Just now, dalekphalm said:

I'm not 100% confident that's how it works.

 

Can you confirm a source?

 

Because FF Sync documentation online says this:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ive-lost-my-firefox-sync-account-information

 

 

That's what I read when I signed up... hm...

 

I dug through my history and found a page with this on it:

 

(I knew I hadn't just hallucinated this )

[dalekphalm]

9 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

That's what I read when I signed up... hm...

 

I dug through my history and found a page with this on it:

 

(I knew I hadn't just hallucinated this )

Weird - they need to be significantly more clear about that, because the FAQ/help doc I found didn't mention that at all.

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6 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Weird - they need to be significantly more clear about that, because the FAQ/help doc I found didn't mention that at all.

Yeah tbh I'm not even sure which to believe now, your quote seems pretty convincing that it was in fact storing things in the cloud

[dalekphalm]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

Yeah tbh I'm not even sure which to believe now, your quote seems pretty convincing that it was in fact storing things in the cloud

I use both FF and Chrome sync accounts.

 

I've never had an issue w/ my FF sync account not downloading bookmarks, etc.

 

Esp. my work computer. Which is the only computer to have the account synced. When I've reinstalled the computer in the past, I'm fairly confident FF sync worked without issue, and there would not have been a second computer online to "pull" from.

 

I dunno. Maybe I'm mis-remembering.

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

I use both FF and Chrome sync accounts.

 

I've never had an issue w/ my FF sync account not downloading bookmarks, etc.

 

Esp. my work computer. Which is the only computer to have the account synced. When I've reinstalled the computer in the past, I'm fairly confident FF sync worked without issue, and there would not have been a second computer online to "pull" from.

 

I dunno. Maybe I'm mis-remembering.

I was banking on magic. Never stopped and thought how this process actually worked. 

[8uhbbhu8]

8 hours ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

I was banking on magic. Never stopped and thought how this process actually worked. 

Magic is always the best way

[Drak3]

Firefox and all derivatives are now disavowed on all systems I iwn or manage, regardless of OS. I've had it breached too many times.

[dalekphalm]

30 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Firefox and all derivatives are now disavowed on all systems I iwn or manage, regardless of OS. I've had it breached too many times.

What do you mean by "breached"?

[Drak3]

57 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

What do you mean by "breached"?

Trusted websites* redirecting to scam sites, malware hosts, and random download triggers for .js, .exe, and .msi files of unknown origin, regardless of physical machine, ISP, OS, adblockers, noscripts, misc. addons, install and version, and without any files in the temp folder, download folder, user/home folders, program folders.

 

*Sites are as follows

Microsoft.com

LinusTechTips.com

Youtube

Google

Credit Union websites

Bank websites

Apple.com

Wikipedia

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The problem does not persist in:

Edge

Chrome on desktop

Safari

Valvidi

Internet Explorer 11

[dalekphalm]

9 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Trusted websites* redirecting to scam sites, malware hosts, and random download triggers for .js, .exe, and .msi files of unknown origin, regardless of physical machine, ISP, OS, adblockers, noscripts, misc. addons, install and version, and without any files in the temp folder, download folder, user/home folders, program folders.

 

*Sites are as follows

Microsoft.com

LinusTechTips.com

Youtube

Google

Credit Union websites

Bank websites

Apple.com

Wikipedia

Tumblr

 

The problem does not persist in:

Edge

Chrome on desktop

Safari

Valvidi

Internet Explorer 11

What AV is running on these machines?

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

What AV is running on these machines?

Windows Defender

Avast

AVG

Kaspersky Labs

[GoodBytes]

5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Windows Defender

Avast

AVG

Kaspersky Labs

Windows only supports 1 A/V. So, pick one. Else, they are virtually useless.

[Drak3]

Just now, GoodBytes said:

Windows only supports 1 A/V. So, pick one. Else, they are virtually useless.

Multiple machines.

Also, multiple A/V can be used with relative ease.

[burnttoastnice]

On 14/11/2017 at 6:21 PM, Dutch-stoner said:

Someone else had an topic about firefox 57 already. Tried it, and my first search was on how to go back. Really dislike the looks/no support for classic skin stuff.

This was me as soon as the update came to dev edition - subsequent days were spent rolling back addons that upgraded to insuperior new versions and disabling updates left right and centre. Sad to know most of my addons that I've been using for years like Strict Popup Blocker can't work in FF57 because the APIs don't exist at all...

 

4 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Windows Defender

Avast

AVG

Kaspersky Labs

Pretty sure something's injected rogue proxy settings into your firefox install, or something's just up with your network

 

On 14/11/2017 at 6:45 PM, GoodBytes said:

I can't predict the future, but I think the add-ons will updated shortly.. it is not the first time that Firefox had a change to the add-on system that required updated. And if it doesn't, you'll have some alternative that will show up that is equal or better.

Unfortunately most of the developer addons don't have compatible APIs and the newer versions of addons such as Stylish are really lacking in functionality or not working at all. It's an absolute horror show right now for long-time firefox users, but maybe less so the new users with a less expansive profile.

 

On 14/11/2017 at 8:58 PM, MyName13 said:

I can't find that on the Android version.

The android version supports addons but not themes as far as I know

 

On 15/11/2017 at 5:51 PM, porina said:

Just updated on a laptop with an old version. They need to work on the updater, why do I need to jump from 46.0.1 to 47.0.2 to 56.0 to 57.0? Anyway, after installing ublock origin to match my chrome install, trying it side by side they seem similar in feel. In itself, that's not enough to get me to switch. I don't want similar, I want better, and so far, I don't see it. I'm also more concerned about Mozilla's lack of consistency as one of the reasons I moved away from FF was they kept messing around with the UI every major version.

I think that drawn out process was used so the user profile data could be converted or whatever for the newer version of FF. But still leaves much to be desired as the installer should have just handled it.

 

On 11/12/2017 at 6:06 PM, Ryan_Vickers said:

If you read the details, FF sync is not like google's cloud solution.  They don't actually store any data, it's just a facilitator for peer to peer syncing, so if you are logged in one more than one system, settings will sync from one to the other, but if you erase all at once you start fresh

The early version of FF sync used to be like that, and it was horrible. There were some times where it wouldn't even sign in. However that was like two years ago or something, and it's cloud based now. Very reliable too, I find myself shuffling tabs around between devices and its basically real-time (with the exception of history which syncs every now and then, if enabled).

I found this https://web.archive.org/web/20120107221626/http://support.mozilla.org:80/en-US/kb/how-do-i-set-up-firefox-sync on wayback machine but it mentions mozilla servers, I'm more than sure this was around the time ff sync was P2P though, as this page mentions end-to-end stuff in the sidebar https://web.archive.org/web/20110923135414/http://www.mozilla.org:80/en-US/mobile/sync

 

[ScratchCat]

@burnttoastnice

In regards to themes for the android version , just open the normal Firefox 'get add ons' webpage and click the themes link. This was only tested in nightly though so it may not have been released onto stable.