Whats linux like?

[noahdvs]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

How would this affect the File Explorer and those applications? How would different Terminal Windows not do the same thing? 

I added a bit to the previous post, but here's an example. Let's say you do open a new terminal window in the current directory. Great, you have 2 windows, not too difficult to manage. Now you have to change directories and you want to have a clear view of all the files in the directory with the ability to launch them while the terminal is doing something. You can open up a new terminal window or use a `cd` command in the old terminal to keep the views in sync, which gets tedious after a while, or you can have an integrated terminal that's just always in sync. Have you ever used git before or compiled a program from source? This makes jumping around a lot really easy.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, noahdvs said:

I added a bit to the previous post, but here's an example. Let's say you do open a terminal in the current directory. Great, you have 2 windows, not too difficult to manage. Now you have to change directories and you want to have a clear view of all the files in the directory with the ability to launch them while the terminal is doing something. You can open up a new terminal window or use a `cd` command in the old terminal to keep the views in sync, which gets tedious after a while, or you can have an integrated terminal that's just always in sync. Have you ever used git before or compiled a program from source? This makes jumping around a lot really easy.

Interesting, I still prefer MacOS 

[noahdvs]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Interesting, I still prefer MacOS 

I know. After all, your name is DrMacintosh. It would be pretty awkward if you didn't use it.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, noahdvs said:

It would be pretty awkward if you didn't use it.

I use both. 

 

I used an 2011 iMac for a while and loved it, then built the PC in my description based on the need for power and the want to game. I eventually needed a laptop recently and after some very bad experiences with Windows 10, I decided against having Windows be the OS of the machine I need to work the most.  

[SteveGrabowski0]

If you like programming, Linux is awesome. The BASH shell is easy to learn if you can program it makes doing a lot of simple but tedious tasks really quick and easy. Things like take every video in this directory tree, check if it's compressed with a codec I don't like, and if so re-compress it using x264 with these settings, moving the bloated originals to this other directory so I can easily delete them later. But its gaming support is nowhere near the level of Windows sadly, and I doubt it ever gets there with the death of Steam OS.

[Dat Guy]

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Whats linux like?

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[Alterlai]

On 29-6-2017 at 3:31 PM, Dat Guy said:

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Elaborate?

[TheCatShuriken]

Why are people still on this thread.

[Jarsky]

I love Linux, I use it every day - there really arent that many caveats other than game support, which you can work around for a lot of games.

 

But anyway i'll just point out the fact, that Windows 10 you can use indefinately for free. After the 90 days you'll get a watermark on the desktop, lose some customisation options, and it will restart more regularly. But it wont restrict you from logging in and using your computer like in the past. So theres not really a reason you cant just save a little every month to buy a license later.

[SpaceNugget]

Dirt Rally, Witcher 1 & 2, Rocket league, Dota 2, CSGO, CIV 6, Portal 2, Bioshock Infinite, Metro Last Light, Cities Skylines, and terraria make up a non exhaustive list of the Linux supported games in my steam library alone. To say that you can't game on Linux is a flat out lie. more and more games are coming out with Linux support because the tooling makes it much easier than it used to be. Unity and Unreal 4 both support building for Linux.

 

the new Davinci resolve works flawlessly on Linux.

 

IMO linux is best suited for very computer literate people and very computer illiterate people. Its not so great for people in between who use computers all the time but don't understand how they work, those people know just enough to be dangerous to their own computers.

 

Fortunately, if you fall into that middle category, if you the time, you can easily become very computer literate by using Linux!

[Alterlai]

10 hours ago, SpaceNugget said:

Dirt Rally, Witcher 1 & 2, Rocket league, Dota 2, CSGO, CIV 6, Portal 2, Bioshock Infinite, Metro Last Light, Cities Skylines, and terraria make up a non exhaustive list of the Linux supported games in my steam library alone. To say that you can't game on Linux is a flat out lie. more and more games are coming out with Linux support because the tooling makes it much easier than it used to be. Unity and Unreal 4 both support building for Linux.

 

the new Davinci resolve works flawlessly on Linux.

 

IMO linux is best suited for very computer literate people and very computer illiterate people. Its not so great for people in between who use computers all the time but don't understand how they work, those people know just enough to be dangerous to their own computers.

 

Fortunately, if you fall into that middle category, if you the time, you can easily become very computer literate by using Linux!

I haven't looked into this in a while but I remember Windows was still outperforming Linux on Linus supported games due to lack of DirectX support. Is this still the case? I've been using Linux on my laptop for a couple of weeks now and it's been a charm, however I did not want to install it on my main pc yet because of that very reason.

[noahdvs]

10 hours ago, Alterlai said:

I haven't looked into this in a while but I remember Windows was still outperforming Linux on Linus supported games due to lack of DirectX support. Is this still the case? I've been using Linux on my laptop for a couple of weeks now and it's been a charm, however I did not want to install it on my main pc yet because of that very reason.

Lack of DirectX wouldn't be a cause of worse performance if you're talking about potential performance under DirectX versus potential performance under OpenGL. A lot of Linux ports just aren't as optimized as the Windows versions though and Linux graphics drivers tend to be inferior to Windows graphics drivers. With that said, you don't need a high end graphics card to make most games playable. You can always dual boot at first to test the performance yourself. If that doesn't work out, just delete your Linux partition. If you plan to use new hardware or use AMD's drivers, make sure you get a fairly recent kernel and the latest Mesa drivers.

[TheRandomness]

-Thread moved to Linux, macOS, and Everything Not-Windows. 

[Linus_torvalds]

On 6/24/2017 at 3:33 AM, SCHISCHKA said:

Are you getting a Ryzen CPU? because if you are, you will want something newer. Ryzen optimisations are in kernel 4.10. What is available now is kernel version 4.8 to 4.9.

Ubuntu 17.10, which will be released soon, should be over kernel 4.10

I have installed Lubuntu 17.04 and it uses linux kernel 4.10.

 

Software is not an issue. Almost all programs have alternatives on linux. Some of them are even better!!! The problem is there are no games like on windows. Although some modern games like Bioshock infinite, Shadow mordor, Hitman, Dying light, Metro and some big games are available on linux too.

[Linus_torvalds]

On 6/24/2017 at 4:19 AM, DrMacintosh said:

tbh MacOS isn't limiting at all. Have had it and used it in varying capacities since 2011. 

 

There are just different ways of doing things. iOS is full of a lot more "crap" lol. 

 

But yeah a Hackintosh isn't the easiest thing to set up. 

macOS is shit. I know i use it since 2010. I had 3 PCs since 2010 and had installed hackintosh on every one of them.

At the moment i post from HP 4540s. I have Dual boot latest macOS and linux (lubuntu). Lubuntu is much much faster and it uses 300 MB RAM lol. I can't use macOS anymore. It feels so slow compared to lubuntu. No it's not HDDs fault i have dual boot on SSD (Crucial BX100).

[Linus_torvalds]

On 6/24/2017 at 5:23 AM, DrMacintosh said:

Why would I want a terminal in my file explorer? Wouldn't I just launch a terminal window anyway? 

You wont need it. macOS is not for profesionals. It's users do not need terminal  Oh terminal in mac is shit like finder. How can you compare Dolphin to finder LOL. 

 

Oh you do not have used linux. Then what the hell are you talking about? 

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, mate_mate91 said:

macOS is shit. I know i use it since 2010. I had 3 PCs since 2010 and had installed hackintosh on every one of them.

At the moment i post from HP 4540s. I have Dual boot latest macOS and linux (lubuntu). Lubuntu is much much faster and it uses 300 MB RAM lol. I can't use macOS anymore. It feels so slow compared to lubuntu. No it's not HDDs fault i have dual boot on SSD (Crucial BX100).

You do know in comparison to MacOS Linux has literally no features and software.......

 

Also Hackintoshing is not actually running MacOS the way it is supposed to. Im using MacOS on a dual core i5 with an iGPU, theres nothing slow about it 

 

Also APFS shits on NTFS and HFS 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, mate_mate91 said:

It's users do not need terminal  Oh terminal in mac is shit like finder.

You do know you can actually do more in terminal than you can in the command line in Windows right? 

[Linus_torvalds]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

You do know you can actually do more in terminal than you can in the command line in Windows right? 

LOL i use linux as long as i remember myself. Of course i know that, but i hate working in terminal in macOS. It smells  #macisshit!!!

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, mate_mate91 said:

LOL i use linux as long as i remember myself. Of course i know that, but i hate working in terminal in macOS. It smells  #macisshit!!!

Have fun running applications on your Linux install 

[Linus_torvalds]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You do know in comparison to MacOS Linux has literally no features and software.......

 

Also Hackintoshing is not actually running MacOS the way it is supposed to. Im using MacOS on a dual core i5 with an iGPU, theres nothing slow about it 

 

Also APFS shits on NTFS and HFS 

What software are you talking about and what features hah?

 

What will you say about ext4?

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, mate_mate91 said:

What software are you talking about and what features hah?

 

What will you say about ext4?

Any software like the Adobe Suite, games, getting good graphics drivers, good monitoring software, Office, and File management extensions. 

[Linus_torvalds]

54 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Any software like the Adobe Suite, games, getting good graphics drivers, good monitoring software, Office, and File management extensions. 

Adobe suite has pretty good alternatives for linux Gimp, Inkspace, Lightworks etc. (Lightworks is professional grade software, evidenced by the fact that it has been used in the editing of several high-profile films including Wolf of Wall Street, The King’s Speech, and Pulp Fiction. All told, it’s a formidable competitor to Premiere Pro)

Games are on linux too, just not ALL games, Graphics Drivers are getting better and better, valve is pushing hard getting linux to be gaming OS. Monitoring software are on linux. Actually i work for seismological center in my country and the software we use to monitor earthquakes is only on linux, MS office has alternative on linux and file management is the best on linux compared to on Windows and macOS

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, mate_mate91 said:

Adobe suite has pretty good alternatives for linux, Injspace, Lightworks

Year or you could use the industry standards like Premier or FinalCut. 

 

Excuses, excuses, excuses, and your last point is a insignificant side note that affects nobody. 

 

Dont give me this alternative bs, it doesn't fly with the consumer. 

[Linus_torvalds]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

 

Go and for starters actually USE linux and then talk about it!