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Hey guys!

Last time I built a new PC for myself was in 2013. I built a mid-range gaming PC build back then, here are the specs.
CPU: i5-3570K - overclocked to 4.2GHz
GPU: GTX 760 (stock)
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz
SSD: Kingston 120GB
HDD: WD 1TB

PSU: RM850
Case: Corsair 760T

I don't need a new case or power supply, they're great. CPU and RAM are still solid I'd say, but that GPU needs urgent attention.

My question is... Upgrade the GPU to something like a GTX 1070. At £378 GBP, that's the cheaper option
or... Just build a new rig with these specs:

CPU: i5-7600K @ stock 3.8GHz
GPU: GTX 1070
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2400MHz
M.2 SSD: WD 250GB (boot drive)
HDD: WD 1TB, plus my old WD 1TB as an 'archive' drive.
PSU: RM850 (Already own)
Case: Corsair 760T (Already own)

Any advice or opinions would be great!

CURRENT: intel i9-10900K ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero ROG Strix RTX 3090 32GB 3600MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro RM1000i Lian Li O11-Dynamic

OFFICE: intel i5-3570K ASUS Z77 mITX EVGA GTX 970 SC 16GB 1600MHz Corsair Vengeance LP Silverstone SFX PSU Fractal Design Node 202

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Don't get i5 when Ryzen 5 is more future proof
Change CPU to Ryzen 1400/1600, OC RAM or get high speed RAM, get any B350 mobo and you're good.

What's your budget?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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The only reason to upgrade your PC, is if you having major issues running the games you want to play. In this case, I would just say upgrade the GPU and see if it helps a bunch, and if it doesn't you can decide what next you need to upgrade.

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2 minutes ago, RhysMusique said:

Hey guys!

Last time I built a new PC for myself was in 2013. I built a mid-range gaming PC build back then, here are the specs.
CPU: i5-3570K - overclocked to 4.2GHz
GPU: GTX 760 (stock)
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz
SSD: Kingston 120GB
HDD: WD 1TB

PSU: RM850
Case: Corsair 760T

I don't need a new case or power supply, they're great. CPU and RAM are still solid I'd say, but that GPU needs urgent attention.

My question is... Upgrade the GPU to something like a GTX 1070. At £378 GBP, that's the cheaper option
or... Just build a new rig with these specs:

CPU: i5-7600K @ stock 3.8GHz
GPU: GTX 1070
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2400MHz
M.2 SSD: WD 250GB (boot drive)
HDD: WD 1TB, plus my old WD 1TB as an 'archive' drive.
PSU: RM850 (Already own)
Case: Corsair 760T (Already own)

Any advice or opinions would be great!

Even if you get i5 don't get the kabylake, the generation has some thermal issues

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Helped you to estimate upgrade cost, about 820 pounds

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£195.72 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£68.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£116.02 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£83.15 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (£355.74 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £819.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-14 15:11 BST+0100

Keep the HDD, case and PSU

Edit: IMO, your system is still good. Alternatively, you can get a used 3rd gen i7 and maybe a used GTX 980TI, nice and yet cost-saving upgrade

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Ivy bridge is still reasonably capable, all you really need to upgrade here is your GPU (Unless you plan to play 1080 144hz, then an i7 is needed).  

Please quote our replys so we get a notification and can reply easily. Never cheap out on a PSU, or I will come to watch the fireworks. 

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My specs

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PC:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K @4.8GHz
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 
Motherboard:  ASUS Maximus VIII Hero 
GPU: Zotac AMP Extreme 1070 @ 2114Mhz
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W G2

 

Peripherals 

Keyboard: Corsair K70 LUX Browns
Mouse: Logitech G502 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Revolver 

Monitor: U2713M @ 75Hz

 

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8 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Helped you to estimate upgrade cost, about 820 pounds

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£195.72 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£68.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£116.02 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£83.15 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (£355.74 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £819.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-14 15:11 BST+0100

Keep the HDD, case and PSU

Edit: IMO, your system is still good. Alternatively, you can get a used 3rd gen i7 and maybe a used GTX 980TI, nice and yet cost-saving upgrade

Ram speed barely matters outside of Overwatch? Or why so high speed?

PC  Specs 2022:

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  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen R9 5900x @ 5.1GHz - Auto OC
  • Curve Optimizer Magnitude: -20
  • Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX x570-F Gaming
  • RAM
                                        Kingston Fury 32GB DDR4 3200MHz 16x2GB
  • GPU
    MSI 3070 8GB Ventus 2x OC
  • Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL MESH II Mesh RGB Black
  • Storage
    Kingston NV1 2TB M.2. NVMe
  • PSU
    Seasonic Focus GX 850w 
  • Display(s)
    MSI OPTIX MAG 251RX IPS 240hz & ASUS MG248Q Vertical 144hz & Dell 60hz
  • Cooling
    NZXT Kraken x73 360mm
  • Keyboard
    Tt eSports Meka G1
  • Mouse
    Logitech G Pro Wireless
  • Operating System
    -Windows 10 Professional 64bit
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8 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Don't get i5 when Ryzen 5 is more future proof
Change CPU to Ryzen 1400/1600, OC RAM or get high speed RAM, get any B350 mobo and you're good.

What's your budget?

Hmm, I kinda have an issue with AMD CPUs, every one I've had has died. So through no fault of my own I tend to stick to the intel side of things. Had this one for 4 years now and never a problem, overclocked well too. Budget is resting around £1000 GBP but could go higher in another payslip's time.

 

CURRENT: intel i9-10900K ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero ROG Strix RTX 3090 32GB 3600MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro RM1000i Lian Li O11-Dynamic

OFFICE: intel i5-3570K ASUS Z77 mITX EVGA GTX 970 SC 16GB 1600MHz Corsair Vengeance LP Silverstone SFX PSU Fractal Design Node 202

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2 minutes ago, RhysMusique said:

Hmm, I kinda have an issue with AMD CPUs, every one I've had has died. So through no fault of my own I tend to stick to the intel side of things. Had this one for 4 years now and never a problem, overclocked well too. Budget is resting around £1000 GBP but could go higher in another payslip's time.

 

If I were you I might just get a 3770k and 1080.

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Laptop (I use it for school):

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@ZM Fong @OsuMasterz @c0d0ps @rn8686 @Ordinarily_Greater

This was what I had before... 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fy3qJV

CURRENT: intel i9-10900K ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero ROG Strix RTX 3090 32GB 3600MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro RM1000i Lian Li O11-Dynamic

OFFICE: intel i5-3570K ASUS Z77 mITX EVGA GTX 970 SC 16GB 1600MHz Corsair Vengeance LP Silverstone SFX PSU Fractal Design Node 202

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5 minutes ago, RhysMusique said:

Hmm, I kinda have an issue with AMD CPUs, every one I've had has died. So through no fault of my own I tend to stick to the intel side of things. Had this one for 4 years now and never a problem, overclocked well too. Budget is resting around £1000 GBP but could go higher in another payslip's time.

Ryzen is power efficient unlike the old FX CPUs
However, if you really want to stick with Intel, get an i7

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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2 minutes ago, RhysMusique said:

Hmm, I kinda have an issue with AMD CPUs, every one I've had has died. So through no fault of my own I tend to stick to the intel side of things. Had this one for 4 years now and never a problem, overclocked well too. Budget is resting around £1000 GBP but could go higher in another payslip's time.

 

I wouldn't bother mate, the i5 should still be good enough, same with everything else except the 760 maybe... If I were you I would just get a new GPU and see how it goes for now, save the money until you might really need it.

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  • Main PC build  https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2K6Q7X
  • ASUS x53e  - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD
  • Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer
  •  
  • Displays:-
  • Philips 55 OLED 754 model
  • Panasonic 55" 4k TV
  • LG 29" Ultrawide
  • Philips 24" 1080p monitor as backup
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  • Storage/NAS/Servers:-
  • ESXI/test build  https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4wyR9G
  • Main Server https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Qftyk
  • Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds
  • HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM
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  • Gaming/Tablets etc:-
  • Xbox One S 500GB + 2TB HDD
  • PS4
  • Nvidia Shield TV
  • Xiaomi/Pocafone F2 pro 8GB/256GB
  • Xiaomi Redmi Note 4

 

  • Unused Hardware currently :-
  • 4670K MSI mobo 16GB ram
  • i7 6700K  b250 mobo
  • Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Amp! edition
  • Zotac GTX 1050 mini

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RhysMusique said:

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This was what I had before... 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fy3qJV

23 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Don't get i5 when Ryzen 5 is more future proof

Also, WD Blue SSD is mediocre, I would recommend SK Hynix SL308, Crucial MX300 or Samsung 850 EVO

 

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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@ZM Fong @OsuMasterz @c0d0ps @rn8686 @Ordinarily_Greater

This was what I had before... 

I understand you currently have those specs, what I am trying to say is your i5 is still plenty adequate in today's games. Only thing you really need to upgrade is your GPU. 

Please quote our replys so we get a notification and can reply easily. Never cheap out on a PSU, or I will come to watch the fireworks. 

PSU Tier List

 

My specs

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PC:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K @4.8GHz
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 
Motherboard:  ASUS Maximus VIII Hero 
GPU: Zotac AMP Extreme 1070 @ 2114Mhz
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W G2

 

Peripherals 

Keyboard: Corsair K70 LUX Browns
Mouse: Logitech G502 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Revolver 

Monitor: U2713M @ 75Hz

 

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With £1000 I would get an i7 3770k aND gtx 1080 ti, it will be miles better than that new build you are considering

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Thanks everyone for your input, it's been really helpful.

I think the general consensus is:

 

No it's not worth spending that amount of money on that rig, when there are much better upgrades that can be done to my system. 
The only problem I have at the moment is that my OS is on a WD Green hard drive, which has made my PC painfully sluggish on startup, and in general use of the pc. I bought a MS Surface Pro 4 in October and I barely even use my PC anymore unless there's a game I really want to play :L. 
 

My PC is just generally bloated with bits of software I've installed on it over the years for different things, and I just wanted a clean slate and an OS on an M.2 SSD so it would be super quick..

Nevertheless, I think in actual games, the GPU is holding me back, so I'll look to the 1070 or 1080 to upgrade to and see where it takes me.

 

Thanks a lot guys!

CURRENT: intel i9-10900K ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero ROG Strix RTX 3090 32GB 3600MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro RM1000i Lian Li O11-Dynamic

OFFICE: intel i5-3570K ASUS Z77 mITX EVGA GTX 970 SC 16GB 1600MHz Corsair Vengeance LP Silverstone SFX PSU Fractal Design Node 202

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