What Should Be Changed?

[iamdarkbowser]

I am making a rig for a friend. The most power hungry thing he will likely be doing is playing Fallout 4 at 1080p 60hz. Excluding the case, what can be changed for a better price? My original limit was $300 USD but that obviously needed to be changed, what we can get this rig down to will determine the final limit.  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kvjZjc (motherboard, this one was not in the pcpartpicker list)

[Slottr]

You need DDR4 memory.

[iamdarkbowser]

2 minutes ago, Slottr said:

You need DDR4 memory.

Is the processor and motherboard (most likely to be changed) I chose compatible with DDR4? 

[Slottr]

3 minutes ago, iamdarkbowser said:

Is the processor and motherboard (most likely to be changed) I chose compatible with DDR4? 

Yes, and only DDR4.

[AlTech]

2 minutes ago, iamdarkbowser said:

Is the processor and motherboard (most likely to be changed) I chose compatible with DDR4? 

Kaby Lake and Skylake are only compatible with DDR3 in the form of  DDR3L or LPDDR3.

 

Desktop DDR3 doesn't work to my knowledge.

[Brooksie359]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dhh9XH you could try something like this instead. you save money on the pentium which has is basically the same as the i3 but you do have to get a 200 series mobo so it is slightly more expensive there but i believe it is still slightly cheaper. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($176.31 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO D5 OC Video Card  ($184.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Other: BIOSTAR Hi-Fi B150S1 D4 Ver. 6.x LGA 1151 Intel B150 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard  ($45.38 @ Newegg) 
Total: $585.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-16 21:14 EST-0500

[Herman Mcpootis]

25 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Kaby Lake and Skylake are only compatible with DDR3 in the form of  DDR3L or LPDDR3.

 

Desktop DDR3 doesn't work to my knowledge.

regular 1.5v DDR3 seems to work fine, just that intel doesn't recommend it.

[stconquest]

I can squeeze in a i5 7400 + RX 480 (4GB) for $605 total.

 

This is similar to the the original build, and less expensive:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($61.99 @ Jet)  <<This is like an i3, it has HT
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($73.77 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($184.98 @ Newegg)  <<New version of the Red Dragon, maybe a better VRM
Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($28.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $488.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-16 21:26 EST-0500

 

Instead of a $60 500GB drive, why would you not do a 240-275GB SSD?

[iamdarkbowser]

1 hour ago, herman mcpootis said:

Total: $585.53

1 hour ago, stconquest said:

I can squeeze in a i5 7400 + RX 480 (4GB) for $605 total.

Instead of a $60 500GB drive, why would you not do a 240-275GB SSD?

 

Both of those builds are far beyond the permanent price limit I set about 2 hours ago (less than $500). As for the drive choice, he needs a decent amount of space and I want him to have some speed beyond what normal hard drives can do, but more space than your average cheap SSD, thus, hybrid drive. I use a little less than 240GB and I'm guessing that he will be using more than me.

[iamdarkbowser]

2 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dhh9XH you could try something like this instead. you save money on the pentium which has is basically the same as the i3 but you do have to get a 200 series mobo so it is slightly more expensive there but i believe it is still slightly cheaper. 

Most likely going to change to that processor. If he really needs to, he can upgrade later. (More accurately, he gives me money and his computer gets faster) 

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, iamdarkbowser said:

Both of those builds are far beyond the permanent price limit I set about 2 hours ago (less than $500). 

your build was $550 and that was without the mobo factored in.

just use a 1tb hdd for now, make a small boot partition and clone that over once he has money for an ssd.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($61.99 @ Jet) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO D5 OC Video Card  ($184.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: BIOSTAR Hi-Fi B150S1 D4 Ver. 6.x LGA 1151 Intel B150 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard  ($45.38 @ Newegg) find out if the bios supports kabylake, or get a b250 mobo/find a distributor or computer store that can flash the bios for you.
Total: $461.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-16 23:04 EST-0500

[iamdarkbowser]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

your build was $550 and that was without the mobo factored in.

just use a 1tb hdd for now, make a small boot partition and clone that over once he has money for an ssd.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($61.99 @ Jet) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO D5 OC Video Card  ($184.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: BIOSTAR Hi-Fi B150S1 D4 Ver. 6.x LGA 1151 Intel B150 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard  ($45.38 @ Newegg) find out if the bios supports kabylake, or get a b250 mobo/find a distributor or computer store that can flash the bios for you.
Total: $461.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-16 23:04 EST-0500

Usually when I am putting together a list of parts for a new build I do it in two stages. First, I build a template, find how far beyond it is from my limit. Second, I start making compromises, and that's why I created this topic and why the price of the build was so high. I still really want to go with the hybrid drive because it covers both criteria I always set. I highly doubt that he will get within 20gb of a 500gb limit before doing some cleaning. I have also used a hybrid drive and kinda compared it to a decent SSD, and the SSD was not a ton faster than the hybrid drive. Plus, my friend is use to a slow laptop hard drive on a laptop that likely can no longer take advantage of it's depressing speeds.