AMD 8320E not properly overclocking

[fastcar123]

Hello,

 

Not too long ago I built my second gaming rig because my laptop pretty much died. I used an old FX-8320E processor running at 3.2 GHz stock. I have tried many different solutions to overclock it but it just wont go past 3.75 GHz.

 

Here's my specs:

-FX-8320E

-16GB 1888MHz DDR3 ram

-RX 480 8GB graphics card

-Asus 970 AURA gaming motherboard

-CX-750 PSU

-Freezer 13 CPU air cooler

 

It's a low budget build but overall does the job.

 

I Have gotten it as high as 3.9GHz without a crash but its pretty unstable. At 4GHz it won't power on at all. I've set the voltage to 1.35 so it's not that. I have sufficient cooling that never gets my CPU past 53C, so it's not a problem with heat. It simply just wont overclock.

 

Let me know if I am doing this wrong, as I have only started overclocking CPUs with this rig.

[The Sloth]

it might be your motherboard, update all your drivers and get the latest bios.  

[fastcar123]

I used the driver CD that came with the board. Do you think it could be out of date? I never considered it would be anything software of firmware related. I'll look into what it will take to flash the bios, although that is something I have never done and am a bit weary of doing so.

[bcontoursvt]

Perhaps because it is a low power/Energy Efficient CPU?

 

[fastcar123]

12 hours ago, bcontoursvt said:

Perhaps because it is a low power/Energy Efficient CPU?

 

it's possible, yes. That could be what the E is for. However I have heard from different people that they can get a max of 4.6GHz on this on. Frankly I would've been happy with 4.0

[fastcar123]

1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

Did you tried the settings i gave you?

not yet. I haven't been around my pc yet. I'm going to give it a chance tonight since its friday

[fastcar123]

7 hours ago, Strike105X said:

Okay, i asked because you should get 42-4.4 out of this chip regardless how bad the binning is, the cooler aint exactly great but 4.2 shouldn't be a problem.

I tried the settings last night and every time the bios comes back with the error "overclock failed" and forces me to go into bios. I cant pinpoint it exactly, but I think it may have something to do with adjust Vcore. if I set it to auto, as I have done in the past, it works fine. I did a re-overclocking and now I'm at 3.87. It will spike up anywhere from 30-100 MHz at times though. I kept it at 3.87 because the second it gets to 4.0, the whole computer locks up; no blue screen, no error, no response.

 

[Nena Trinity]

I would not set voltage above 1.425 also try to disable turbo and set core clock to the turbo speed or slightly higher, not you most not BLCK you most OC the traditional way by only increase core-clocks and make sure RAM MHz stays at 1866MHz...

[fastcar123]

On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 11:38 AM, Strike105X said:

Set overclocking and voltages to manual, set v core to 1.35v set frequency to 4.2ghz and use this in combination with the settings i gave you last time, for some reason i thought you messed with v core as well. Also make sure you have turbo, cpu speed spectrum C1/6 APM cool and quiet and all power saving options turned off.

Sorry for the long time to reply. Ive been messing around with it here and there but never got to sit down with it. Until now that is.

 

So with your help, I was able to get this cpu up to 4.240 GHz @ Vmax of 1.34475V.

 

>>>EDIT: had to take the overclock down just a tiny bit as the overclock got a bit unstable during graphicly intensive gameplay. I have no Idea why that is though. Either way now I'm sitting at 4.192GHz<<<

 

I tried to set the voltage at 1.35V as you suggested, but I forgot about the LLC being set to extreme. I watched as the voltage exceeded 1.4V. After some quick thinking and doing a bit of math based on those numbers, I set it to 1.1875V and that seemed to do the trick.

 

I set the voltage to manual and achieved this. The only problem was that my cpu was running at 59C after 15 minutes of burn in test. After the test passed, it wouldn't come down more than a few degrees. That's when I noticed it was still at full speed. So I started playing with the offset mode to try to make it not stay that high forever.

 

Here's where I screwed up this whole time. I was programing the offset of Vcore. I thought my motherboard was referring to the maximum voltage at which the offset should run. Instead, it was referring to the amount of offset voltage. So what I thought was 1.35Vmax was really 1.334v + .7000 volts offset (that's the boards max limit for the offset). My overclock was failing because I was trying to shove 2.034 volt through my CPU. Yikes! I'm fortunate ASUS knew this would kill my CPU and prevented it from starting up. Still I cant help but think this all could've been avoided had I had a better understanding of offset voltage at the time.

 

Now I just need to worry about temps as apposed to voltages.

 

Even so there's no way I would've even come close to that far had you not helped me out. So thank you very much.  This has also allowed me to get my ram up to proper speed as well. The whole system feels like new.

[it_dont_work]

On 1/20/2017 at 11:49 AM, bcontoursvt said:

Perhaps because it is a low power/Energy Efficient CPU?

 

unlikely it's only classes low power because of a lower base clock.

[-rascal-]

8 hours ago, fastcar123 said:

Sorry for the long time to reply. Ive been messing around with it here and there but never got to sit down with it. Until now that is.

 

So with your help, I was able to get this cpu up to 4.240 GHz @ Vmax of 1.34475V.

 

>>>EDIT: had to take the overclock down just a tiny bit as the overclock got a bit unstable during graphicly intensive gameplay. I have no Idea why that is though. Either way now I'm sitting at 4.192GHz<<<

 

I tried to set the voltage at 1.35V as you suggested, but I forgot about the LLC being set to extreme. I watched as the voltage exceeded 1.4V. After some quick thinking and doing a bit of math based on those numbers, I set it to 1.1875V and that seemed to do the trick.

 

I set the voltage to manual and achieved this. The only problem was that my cpu was running at 59C after 15 minutes of burn in test. After the test passed, it wouldn't come down more than a few degrees. That's when I noticed it was still at full speed. So I started playing with the offset mode to try to make it not stay that high forever.

 

Here's where I screwed up this whole time. I was programing the offset of Vcore. I thought my motherboard was referring to the maximum voltage at which the offset should run. Instead, it was referring to the amount of offset voltage. So what I thought was 1.35Vmax was really 1.334v + .7000 volts offset (that's the boards max limit for the offset). My overclock was failing because I was trying to shove 2.034 volt through my CPU. Yikes! I'm fortunate ASUS knew this would kill my CPU and prevented it from starting up. Still I cant help but think this all could've been avoided had I had a better understanding of offset voltage at the time.

 

Now I just need to worry about temps as apposed to voltages.

 

Even so there's no way I would've even come close to that far had you not helped me out. So thank you very much.  This has also allowed me to get my ram up to proper speed as well. The whole system feels like new.

 

For the time being, since you are still tweaking your overclock, use Manual / Mixed Voltage Mode instead of Offset or Adaptive.

How are you overclocking your FX-8320E? Adjusting the multiplier OR increasing the Base Clock? -- you SHOULD be using the CPU Ratio.

 

~1.400V should be okay, up to 1.5V if cooling allows.

Mileage may vary, but with 1.4V, most FX-8000 series chips, including the "E" models, should be okay reaching anywhere in between 4.4 GHz ~ 4.8 GHz.

(4.4 ~ 4.6 being the more common)

 

You are using Load Line Calibration WRONG if you are setting the Core Voltage to 1.1875V, and RELYING on LLC to pull it up to 1.35V.

The main purpose of Load Line Calibration is to ASSIST with keeping the Core Voltage at a stable level.

As with ANY electronic device, when a load is applied, the voltage will drop -- with CPU's they call it V_DROOP. LLC is suppose to help counter-act V_DROOP.

 

For an example:

• You set your Voltage to 1.375V for 4.4 GHz
• Core Voltage sits at ~1.375V when the CPU is idle or under light load
• You start a stress test, pinning all eight-cores at 100%, and the Core Voltage dips down to 1.350V
• Adjust the LLC level to bring that 1.350V up to your 1.375V range
• When the CPU is again put back to idle, LLC will "stop" compensating for V_DROOP  and your Core Voltage will be back at 1.375V

[Prysin]

On 19/01/2017 at 1:50 AM, fastcar123 said:

Hello,

 

Not too long ago I built my second gaming rig because my laptop pretty much died. I used an old FX-8320E processor running at 3.2 GHz stock. I have tried many different solutions to overclock it but it just wont go past 3.75 GHz.

 

Here's my specs:

-FX-8320E

-16GB 1888MHz DDR3 ram

-RX 480 8GB graphics card

-Asus 970 AURA gaming motherboard

-CX-750 PSU

-Freezer 13 CPU air cooler

 

It's a low budget build but overall does the job.

 

I Have gotten it as high as 3.9GHz without a crash but its pretty unstable. At 4GHz it won't power on at all. I've set the voltage to 1.35 so it's not that. I have sufficient cooling that never gets my CPU past 53C, so it's not a problem with heat. It simply just wont overclock.

 

Let me know if I am doing this wrong, as I have only started overclocking CPUs with this rig.

1.35v is very low for AMD FX. AMD FX can easily do upwards of 1.55v with a good air cooler or AIO, 1.65-1.75 with a custom water loop.

 

Its a combination of your PSU and voltage.

Cx750 only supports up to 130w. A 8320e will easily shoot past 150w once you get it over 4.5GHz....

 

Your cooler IS a bit weak, you should look into upgrading to a Cryorig R1 or Noctua NH-D14

[MageTank]

16 minutes ago, Prysin said:

1.35v is very low for AMD FX. AMD FX can easily do upwards of 1.55v with a good air cooler or AIO, 1.65-1.75 with a custom water loop.

 

Its a combination of your PSU and voltage.

Cx750 only supports up to 130w. A 8320e will easily shoot past 150w once you get it over 4.5GHz....

 

Your cooler IS a bit weak, you should look into upgrading to a Cryorig R1 or Noctua NH-D14

Phanteks TC14PE master race. Cheaper than both options, with nearly identical performance. 

[Prysin]

3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Phanteks TC14PE master race. Cheaper than both options, with nearly identical performance. 

Sure, IF you can get one where you live. That is the issue.

Also, i think you are forgetting one thing; Noctua will send you free brackets/fan clips for any customer who can provide a receit or proof of purchase.

 

Not all manufacturers will send you fan-clips for free. 

[MageTank]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

Sure, IF you can get one where you live. That is the issue.

Also, i think you are forgetting one thing; Noctua will send you free brackets/fan clips for any customer who can provide a receit or proof of purchase.

 

Not all manufacturers will send you fan-clips for free. 

Phanteks sent me a mount after I broke the 115x mount (don't ask how). Their CS is pretty legit. They also accepted an RMA on a buddy's cooler, even after he sanded it down to get extra clearance in his case. As far as availability, Newegg has them in stock at all times here in the US, even with Premier shipping. 

 

Kinda wish ID Cooling would send me fan clips, but shipping from China would cost more than what they are worth.