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Alienware New 15?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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21 minutes ago, SirFlamenco said:

Dude, 1080 non oc is MUCH better than 980ti oced and it's equal to 1070 but lack in new features such as dx12

First off I need a laptop. Second you have no clue what you are talking about. Pascal and Maxwell are the same architecture so any DX12 "features" are exactly the same both are DX12_1. Finally you don't know how my 980ti performs do you? I am getting 144+FPS in every game I want at 1440P so upgrading makes zero sense. 

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

First off I need a laptop. Second you have no clue what you are talking about. Pascal and Maxwell are the same architecture so any DX12 "features" are exactly the same both are DX12_1. Finally you don't know how my 980ti performs do you? I am getting 144+FPS in every game I want at 1440P so upgrading makes zero sense. 

I know 980ti support dx12, but pascal is much better at it. The developer of AoT once said that maxwell were no good performers at dx12. Also it's impossible for 980ti to get 144fps maxed, even a titan x pascal oced can't do this

So true it hurts

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, SirFlamenco said:

The developer of AoT once said that maxwell were no good performers at dx12.

Neither is Pascal. Most of the tests showing Maxwell having negative performance were in early stages of the drivers. When you compare it now, Maxwell and Pascal get similar performance increases. Pascal is literally die shrunk speed boosted Maxwell architecture. 

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5 minutes ago, SirFlamenco said:

I know 980ti support dx12, but pascal is much better at it. The developer of AoT once said that maxwell were no good performers at dx12. Also it's impossible for 980ti to get 144fps maxed, even a titan x pascal oced can't do this

No stop you have no clue what you are saying. A 1080 is a 980 on a smaller dye with new memory. With the smaller size you can achieve higher clocks at lower power usage. If you clock the 1080 to the speeds of a 980 it performs the same clock for clock. Same with the 1070 and 970. For FPS getting 144FPS depends on the game. It is only 1440p and games like Overwatch and BF1 are not the most demanding and are pretty efficient.

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22 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Neither is Pascal. Most of the tests showing Maxwell having negative performance were in early stages of the drivers. When you compare it now, Maxwell and Pascal get similar performance increases. Pascal is literally die shrunk speed boosted Maxwell architecture. 

You are probably right :D

16 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

No stop you have no clue what you are saying. A 1080 is a 980 on a smaller dye with new memory. With the smaller size you can achieve higher clocks at lower power usage. If you clock the 1080 to the speeds of a 980 it performs the same clock for clock. Same with the 1070 and 970. For FPS getting 144FPS depends on the game. It is only 1440p and games like Overwatch and BF1 are not the most demanding and are pretty efficient.

A 1080 would be hard to put at old gen clock but it would still beat it. 300 mhz can't take more than 10 fps. Take a look at this : 

 

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1 minute ago, SirFlamenco said:

You are probably right :D

A 1080 would be hard to put at old gen clock but it would still beat it. 300 mhz can't take more than 10 fps. Take a look at this : 

 

The 980ti is at 1470 in the video. Mine is at 1586mhz. If you look at the reference 1080 FPS it proves my point. NOT worth it, maybe even a downgrade for raw FPS.

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

The 980ti is at 1470 in the video. Mine is at 1586mhz. If you look at the reference 1080 FPS it proves my point. NOT worth it, maybe even a downgrade for raw FPS.

The 1070 is 2 or 3 fps better than titan x and 980ti, so maybe a 1070 upgrade ain't worth it, but when you say a 1080 is a DOWNGRADE, we can clearly see you are sad you don't have a pascal gpu. But man, don't worry, a 980 ti is still very powerful, and it's normal to see 20 fps more in new GPUs. No rage :P

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7 minutes ago, SirFlamenco said:

The 1070 is 2 or 3 fps better than titan x and 980ti, so maybe a 1070 upgrade ain't worth it, but when you say a 1080 is a DOWNGRADE, we can clearly see you are sad you don't have a pascal gpu. But man, don't worry, a 980 ti is still very powerful, and it's normal to see 20 fps more in new GPUs. No rage :P

I know your a dumb troll but here are some valid data sources to show you are wrong.  The graphics score is 10,149 on a GTX1080 reference design with GPU boost enabled.fsdfdsfsdfdsfds.PNG

 

 

Here is my 3DMARK Fire Strike Extreme score from my GPU.

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Notice 10,367 is larger then 10,149. If it was 50 off I would call it margin of error. But 218 points difference is a lot. Hahah you have zero knowledge on what you are spewing.

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6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I know your a dumb troll but here are some valid data sources to show you are wrong.  The graphics score is 10,149 on a GTX1080 reference design with GPU boost enabled.fsdfdsfsdfdsfds.PNG

 

 

Here is my 3DMARK Fire Strike Extreme score from my GPU.

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Notice 10,367 is larger then 10,149. If it was 50 off I would call it margin of error. But 218 points difference is a lot. Hahah you have zero knowledge on what you are spewing.

Eh, calm down buddy. I just want to say it's normal for new gpus to be better than older ones. The list go like this

1060 overclocked<980ti stock

stock 1070>980ti stock

1070 overclocked=980ti overclocked

1080 stock>980ti overclocked

 

But yea, firestrike give a lot of points when you overclock. In games, the oc boost is not so big, so a 1080 reference will be better than a 980ti overclocked. Though with such a big oc on your 980ti, you can definitively say you are at 1070 level ! No rage please I don't want to use the report button for the first time ;)

So true it hurts

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, SirFlamenco said:

Eh, calm down buddy. I just want to say it's normal for new gpus to be better than older ones. The list go like this

1060 overclocked<980ti stock

stock 1070>980ti stock

1070 overclocked=980ti overclocked

1080 stock>980ti overclocked

 

But yea, firestrike give a lot of points when you overclock. In games, the oc boost is not so big, so a 1080 reference will be better than a 980ti overclocked. Though with such a big oc on your 980ti, you can definitively say you are at 1070 level ! No rage please I don't want to use the report button for the first time ;)

Yes I understand where you are coming from. Typically second gen stuff would be more powerful otherwise who would buy it. 

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9 hours ago, SirFlamenco said:

Dude, 1080 non oc is MUCH better than 980ti oced and it's equal to 1070 but lack in new features such as dx12

The GTX 900 series are all DX12 compatible. The 860M/960M are the only ones that don't support that API. Unsure of where you're getting your info, but you're quite wrong. :P

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1 minute ago, Imglidinhere said:

The GTX 900 series are all DX12 compatible. The 860M/960M are the only ones that don't support that API. Unsure of where you're getting your info, but you're quite wrong. :P

As you can see in my other post, I know 900 series support dx12, but they are not the best at it.  The developer of AoT once said that maxwell were no good performers at dx12.

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24 minutes ago, Wizard said:

@SamStrecker don't buy the AW15 now!, wait a month or two, there are new units coming with the issue fixed! (reddit post).

 

Ok thanks!

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On 11/24/2016 at 2:42 PM, Wizard said:

@SamStrecker don't buy the AW15 now!, wait a month or two, there are new units coming with the issue fixed! (reddit post).

 

Great thread. Thanks for the info WIzard. Would it be advisable to also wait a month or two for the AW17R4 ? Ive been reading about the light leak issue and fan noise problem even in idle condition. 

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I would personally wait for people to benchmark the 17r4 with the 1080, that unit supposedly has the issues fixed but wouldn't trust their word without benchmarks, good reviews and customers opinions. 

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4 hours ago, Wizard said:

I would personally wait for people to benchmark the 17r4 with the 1080, that unit supposedly has the issues fixed but wouldn't trust their word without benchmarks, good reviews and customers opinions. 

Yes the 17r4 already seem to have lesser issues. the most common one is the display problem. 

I have to get one before 15th December. I hope i can find some solid positive reviews in the next few days. 

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1 hour ago, hungrysanta said:

Yes the 17r4 already seem to have lesser issues. the most common one is the display problem. 

I have to get one before 15th December. I hope i can find some solid positive reviews in the next few days. 

Well just ordered my Alienware 15. I talked to a Dell person and got some savings. I am not overclocking and it was actually much cheaper then a XPS 15 with a much weaker GPU, and slower memory, smaller hard drive, and a smaller battery. I will update you on thermals when I get it. There is always a 30 day return so I am not fretting.

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

There is always a 30 day return so I am not fretting.

Warranty will cover you for the first year. If they release a fixed version, just complain something broke for no reason. 

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51 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Warranty will cover you for the first year. If they release a fixed version, just complain something broke for no reason. 

Or it might not even have an issue. I guess we will see. 

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3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Well just ordered my Alienware 15. I talked to a Dell person and got some savings. I am not overclocking and it was actually much cheaper then a XPS 15 with a much weaker GPU, and slower memory, smaller hard drive, and a smaller battery. I will update you on thermals when I get it. There is always a 30 day return so I am not fretting.

I am waiting to order mine when I get my money within 1-3 days. Hopefully the Black Friday-Cyber Monday sale will still be here. Where did you go to lower the price, how did you ask, and how much did you save? Asking for me personally ordering soon.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Inkz said:

I am waiting to order mine when I get my money within 1-3 days. Hopefully the Black Friday-Cyber Monday sale will still be here. Where did you go to lower the price, how did you ask, and how much did you save? Asking for me personally ordering soon.

Well there was a $50 code. Then the $200 off. The chat person threw in a two year warranty thing. I think it's an extra $50 or something. I don't know. They said they applied it to the order number or something.

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Well there was a $50 code. Then the $200 off. The chat person threw in a two year warranty thing. I think it's an extra $50 or something. I don't know. They said they applied it to the order number or something.


What $50 code? Was the $200 just the sale savings? And did you ask or did they offer? Also I think a second year of their premium warranty is much more than $50, you might have gotten a really good deal.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Inkz said:


What $50 code? Was the $200 just the sale savings? And did you ask or did they offer? Also I think a second year of their premium warranty is much more than $50, you might have gotten a really good deal.

 

$50 off is SAVE50OFF699 or SAVE50ON699 just google alienware coupons and most sites have a bunch but most don't apply to what you are buying.

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

$50 off is SAVE50OFF699 or SAVE50ON699 just google alienware coupons and most sites have a bunch but most don't apply to what you are buying.

Well I missed the Black Friday deal because my bank was taking too long to process some money for me. But I talked with a person over chat and they said they will also have good cyber monday deals starting tomorrow. I was so close to affording the config I wanted, but tax made the difference. So I: have to wait until tomorrow in hopes of a better deal.

 

 

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