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What Should I Do With All These Drives???

NavXIII
By NavXIII
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Hola guys and gals,

My gaming PC consists of a HyperX M.2 480GB SSD, and a 2TB WD Black drive. I have also ended up collecting all these drives over the years for various reasons:

  • 500GB HGST 5400RPM (PS4 HDD that was replaced, 3 years old)
  • 500GB Seagate 7200RPM (From a dead HP laptop, 8 years old)
  • 500GB Seagate 7200RPM (From a Seagate external drive, 6 years old)
  • 500GB Seagate 5400RPM (From a dead LaCie enclosure, 3 years old)
  • 60GB Seagate 5400RPM (From a dead launch console PS3, 10 years old)

I mainly use my PC for gaming and streaming media around the house via ethernet (to PS3, PS4, Smart TV, etc). I have around 600GB worth of games that will mainly be on the G drive but a select few will be on the C drive. There's 100GB worth of photos (and growing) mainly because of my photography hobby. I haven't dabbled too much into Photoshop or Lightroom, but I'll be using it a lot more once I get my photos imported and organized from my laptop.

 

I'm using this as a sort of a guide: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/662972

 

4TB External Drive used for backups except for games. Fastest drives should have Media Cashe & Media Cashe Databases

  • 3  Disks
    • C: 480GB SSD - OS, Programs, Pagefile, Previews, Media Cache,
    • D: 2TB WD Black - Users, Projects, Exports
    • G: 2TB 4x Raid 0 - Games, Media, (Could go for a RAID 5 with 1.5TB instead)
  • 4 Disks
    • C: 480GB SSD - OS, Programs, Previews, Media Cache
    • D: 2TB WD Black - Users, Projects, Exports
    • E: 1.5TB 3x Raid 0 5400RPM - Media, Pagefile
    • G: 500GB 7200RPM - Games

 

Any recommendations?

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Sell them and give your car a oil change?

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I would install the 4 500gb drives as a raid 10 array, and the 60 gb drive is probably garbage, as it's to small to really do much with. Where you install those is up too you, either a nas or your current rig would be useful. If you decide to build a nas, you can use the 60gb drive as a boot drive to install all the system files and os for the nas. 

 

 

Edit- after reading through your suggested options, DO NOT PUT THOSE DRIVES IN RAID 0. I cannot stress this enough. Those drives are very old, and could fail any minute. In raid 0, of one drive fails the entire array of data is lost. Raid 10 is a much better option.

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Custom NAS using an PC if you have one, or maybe even within your main PC if you have enough drive bays. Since they are old drives I would definitely run them with some sort of redundancy RAID format to avoid data loss. 

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I thought RAID only worked if you had/have the exactly same drive types......... 

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5 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

Custom NAS using an PC if you have one, or maybe even within your main PC if you have enough drive bays. Since they are old drives I would definitely run them with some sort of redundancy RAID format to avoid data loss. 

Definitely go with a RAID setup

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Give them to me? Just kidding haha, do a RAID setup!

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I accidently posted this before I finished writing it and y'all guys all comment so fast. 0_o

15 minutes ago, RS2007GOD said:

Sell them and give your car a oil change?

More like dog food. =P

15 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

I would install the 4 500gb drives as a raid 10 array, and the 60 gb drive is probably garbage, as it's to small to really do much with. Where you install those is up too you, either a nas or your current rig would be useful. If you decide to build a nas, you can use the 60gb drive as a boot drive to install all the system files and os for the nas. 

 

 

Edit- after reading through your suggested options, DO NOT PUT THOSE DRIVES IN RAID 0. I cannot stress this enough. Those drives are very old, and could fail any minute. In raid 0, of one drive fails the entire array of data is lost. Raid 10 is a much better option.

 

What about RAID 5? Or maybe 2 RAID 0s with the older drives holding the games only (got some really fast internet here in case it fails).

 

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28 minutes ago, NavXIII said:

I accidently posted this before I finished writing it and y'all guys all comment so fast. 0_o

More like dog food. =P

What about RAID 5? Or maybe 2 RAID 0s with the older drives holding the games only (got some really fast internet here in case it fails).

 

Raid 5 would be acceptable. 

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I don't why the mods didn't get my post. I posted NAS and it was deleted. Anyway... That's my opinion. Exactly what  I'm going to try with all of my extra drives. 

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Unless you need the space, leave them on the shelf until you do?  And when you do, install them in a RAID-1 configuration? 

 

If you don't need the space at the moment, no point in wasting electricity running them.  Figure a drive will cost $10/year to run 24/7.  1 year of run-time on 4 x 500gb would equal the purchase price of a 2Tb drive these days. 

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On 25.09.2016 г. at 4:44 AM, NavXIII said:

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Hey there :)

 

A couple of suggestions from me:

- Since you will be reusing older drives I would STRONGLY suggest that you perform some diagnostic tests and see if the drives are still healthy and safe to store your data. Try running diagnostic tools from the manufacturers and check the raw values of the S.M.A.R.T. status of those drives. This should suffice. 

 

- using older drives in a RAID0 array isn't a good idea as you are increasing significantly the chances of a drive dropping out and corrupting your data. Moreover, RAID increases mainly the sequential speeds and has a rather low effect on the random speeds. Make sure you have backups of all data placed on the RAID arrays. RAID5 is a rather risky type as it takes a lot of time to rebuild and the chance of a second drive failing during the rebuilding process can be high and thus increasing the risk of a total data loss. I'd go with a RAID10 or a RAID6 if you are looking for a good data safety or simply use the drives in a JBOD configuration with backups to external drives. 

 

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23 hours ago, Captain_WD said:

Hey there :)

 

A couple of suggestions from me:

- Since you will be reusing older drives I would STRONGLY suggest that you perform some diagnostic tests and see if the drives are still healthy and safe to store your data. Try running diagnostic tools from the manufacturers and check the raw values of the S.M.A.R.T. status of those drives. This should suffice. 

 

- using older drives in a RAID0 array isn't a good idea as you are increasing significantly the chances of a drive dropping out and corrupting your data. Moreover, RAID increases mainly the sequential speeds and has a rather low effect on the random speeds. Make sure you have backups of all data placed on the RAID arrays. RAID5 is a rather risky type as it takes a lot of time to rebuild and the chance of a second drive failing during the rebuilding process can be high and thus increasing the risk of a total data loss. I'd go with a RAID10 or a RAID6 if you are looking for a good data safety or simply use the drives in a JBOD configuration with backups to external drives. 

 

Captain_WD.

 

Thanks for the help, really appreciate it. I've already done diagnostic tests on all drives previously and they all came up clean. Isn't JBOD almost as bad as RAID 0 in terms of failure rate? It does not even have the speed of RAID 0. I would go with RAID 6 but I don't have a 5th drive nor my mobo would accept a 5th drive in a RAID config without removing the M.2 drive. I'm leaning more towards RAID 5 since this array is really just meant to hold 90% of the games I have which can be easily be re-downloaded on Steam. If I put anything else on there (probably not beside temp files, caches, etc) then that would be backed up daily.

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1 hour ago, NavXIII said:

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JBOD stands for Just a Bunch of Disks/Drives which means they all work independently from one another. This does not affect your data on the healthy drive if one fails.

What you are probably thinking is Span mode where all drives work separately but are seen from the system as one huge volume. 

 

RAID6 requires a minimum of 4 drives (2 for redundancy and 2 available to you), but since your data isn't important and can be re-downloaded you should be fine with RAID5. :)

 

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11 hours ago, Captain_WD said:

JBOD stands for Just a Bunch of Disks/Drives which means they all work independently from one another. This does not affect your data on the healthy drive if one fails.

What you are probably thinking is Span mode where all drives work separately but are seen from the system as one huge volume. 

 

RAID6 requires a minimum of 4 drives (2 for redundancy and 2 available to you), but since your data isn't important and can be re-downloaded you should be fine with RAID5. :)

 

Captain_WD. 

 
 
 

Here's what I'm getting in terms of read/write speeds for various disks using CrystalDiskMark. I tried out RAID 0 and RAID 5. It seems like RAID 5 read speeds aren't that much better than an external USB 3.0 drive. 

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CrystalDiskMark 5.1.2 x64 (C) 2007-2016 hiyohiyo PREDATOR SSD
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :  1569.482 MB/s

Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :  1017.980 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   463.487 MB/s [113156.0 IOPS]

Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :   450.726 MB/s [110040.5 IOPS]
Sequential Read (T= 1) :  1332.311 MB/s
Sequential Write (T= 1) :  1015.473 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :    36.648 MB/s [  8947.3 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :   120.873 MB/s [ 29510.0 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [C: 3.8% (17.2/446.6 GiB)] (x3)  [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2016/09/25 16:18:14
OS : Windows 10  [10.0 Build 10586] (x64)
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CrystalDiskMark 5.1.2 x64 (C) 2007-2016 hiyohiyo WD Black
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :   194.212 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   197.365 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     2.212 MB/s [   540.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     2.394 MB/s [   584.5 IOPS]
Sequential Read (T= 1) :   187.482 MB/s
Sequential Write (T= 1) :   190.410 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     0.687 MB/s [   167.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     2.257 MB/s [   551.0 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [D: 0.7% (13.2/1863.0 GiB)] (x3)  [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2016/09/27 11:31:45
OS : Windows 10  [10.0 Build 14393] (x64)
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CrystalDiskMark 5.1.2 x64 (C) 2007-2016 hiyohiyo RAID 0 - 4 Drives
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :   369.834 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   347.127 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     3.687 MB/s [   900.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     3.584 MB/s [   875.0 IOPS]
Sequential Read (T= 1) :   363.271 MB/s
Sequential Write (T= 1) :   347.758 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     0.593 MB/s [   144.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     3.627 MB/s [   885.5 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [G: 40.6% (756.7/1862.5 GiB)] (x3)  [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2016/09/25 16:29:58
OS : Windows 10  [10.0 Build 10586] (x64)
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CrystalDiskMark 5.1.2 Shizuku Edition x64 (C) 2007-2016 hiyohiyo RAID 5 - 4 Drives
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :   177.733 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   250.977 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     4.141 MB/s [  1011.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     0.765 MB/s [   186.8 IOPS]
Sequential Read (T= 1) :   294.683 MB/s
Sequential Write (T= 1) :    39.428 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     1.215 MB/s [   296.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     0.342 MB/s [    83.5 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [G: 0.0% (0.2/1397.1 GiB)] (x3)  [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2016/09/27 11:48:55
OS : Windows 10  [10.0 Build 14393] (x64)
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CrystalDiskMark 5.1.2 x64 (C) 2007-2016 hiyohiyo USB 3.0 Seagate External Backup
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) :   160.405 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) :   147.907 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     0.579 MB/s [   141.4 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) :     1.180 MB/s [   288.1 IOPS]
Sequential Read (T= 1) :   159.798 MB/s
Sequential Write (T= 1) :   139.036 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     0.499 MB/s [   121.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) :     1.147 MB/s [   280.0 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [F: 61.0% (2273.5/3725.9 GiB)] (x3)  [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2016/09/27 11:43:04
OS : Windows 10  [10.0 Build 14393] (x64)
  

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14 hours ago, NavXIII said:

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Mind that RAID limits the speed of all drives to the one with the slowest in the array and the capacity of all drives to the one with the smallest.

I'd suggest to individually benchmark all of the drives included in the array and then judge the array's performance by it. 

Also take into account that having different types of drives in a RAID array can also impact the performance of the array. That along with the controller and settings can make a big difference between a well performing RAID array and a poorly performing one. 

 

RAID5 loses a lot of performance during the calculation of the redundancy so it's normal to have lower write speeds. 

 

Captain_WD. 

If this helped you, like and choose it as best answer - you might help someone else with the same issue. ^_^
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