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Aside from looking at the PSU's crossload profile or having the review outright telling you, the power specification chart will show that the 12V rail will not be equal to rated wattage in a group-regulated PSU (although, nowadays it had been getting pretty close). So if you want to avoid them and get a DC-DC / independent regulated PSU rated for 550w for example, it will either have a 12V rating of 45.83A (550/12) or 45A rounded down (never rounded up). There are exceptions to this though, where units like the Cooler Master GM / GXII Storm Edition (DC-DC) or the OCZ ZS / Rosewill Hive v1 (indy) has a lower 12V rating.

 

If you are able to find images of the internals (sometimes the manufacturer themselves provide it in their marketing or sometimes through the fan grill), you can identify it from that as well. They do have some cases that certain designs makes it a little more confusing to identify though (like the Fractal Design Integra M seen as group-regulated). The Seasonic ST platform is kind of a hybrid, where it group-regulated (12V+5V) and have DC-DC for the 3.3V.

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On the secondary side of the power supply, there's a big output coil and a smaller one in a group-regulated design (Seasonic S12II-B), while an independent regulated PSU will have an additional small coil (OCZ ZS). However, in an indy design whose primary topology uses a LLC Resonant Convertor, the big 12V choke may not be present (Fractal Design Integra M).

 

PSUs that uses a buck convertor / DC-DC to generate the minor rails from the 12V output typically have it integrated on a separate daughterboard or on the modular board, where you would either see one 12V choke or none in a LLC design. You can see this in the CXM 2015 and Seasonic X KM3.

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1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

What does the *** mean?  There aren't any annotations.

could have been in a higher tier but got cut down to T3 for sleeved fans.

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1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

could have been in a higher tier but got cut down to T3 for sleeved fans.

Lol that's something that should be in the post then.

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10 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Lol that's something that should be in the post then.

Yeah, the pages progress really quickly. Anyone reading this for the first time is not going to know it's already been said. It's unneeded clutter, just edit the post @STRMfrmXMN

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15 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Lol that's something that should be in the post then.

@Megah3rtz applies to you too. it's at the bottom of the OP.

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Any unit with a sleeve-bearing fan will be deemed no better than Tier 3. Sleeve-bearing fans tend to fail rather quickly when placed in the horizontal mounting position which is what most systems require (the picture used is a PSU mounted in a Fractal Design Define S which uses a traditional mounting system). This is why excellent units like the Enermax SFX unit are placed in tier 3 despite being very good - the fan design holds it back. If mounted in a position like in this Corsair Air 240 then a sleeve-bearing fan should last a very long time.

PSUs that have been bumped down to tier 3 that would belong in a higher tier if not for their sleeve-bearing fans are marked with yellow asterisks

 

 

 

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@Megah3rtz applies to you too. it's at the bottom of the OP.

 

I didn't see that.  I did read it though, I just overlooked it somehow.  Putting a *** there would be easier though.  The first thing I did was search the page for that.

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10 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

@Megah3rtz applies to you too. it's at the bottom of the OP.

 

wasn't there last time I checked, it only said something about the CXM. 

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4 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

What does the *** mean?  There aren't any annotations.

Fixed it to make it easier to read now.

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4 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

Lol that's something that should be in the post then.

It is.

3 hours ago, Megah3rtz said:

wasn't there last time I checked, it only said something about the CXM. 

Now there is B3, CXM and Enermax

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How does tier 2 compare against tier 1 for practical use? I'm considering T2 units since they're a fair bit cheaper.

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33 minutes ago, Xizel said:

How does tier 2 compare against tier 1 for practical use? I'm considering T2 units since they're a fair bit cheaper.

For pretty much any computer a T2 PSU is fine.

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2 hours ago, Xizel said:

How does tier 2 compare against tier 1 for practical use? I'm considering T2 units since they're a fair bit cheaper.

Practical use? Nothing an average consumer would be bothered with. You'd be fine with T2 for pretty much almost any computer. 

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2 hours ago, Xizel said:

How does tier 2 compare against tier 1 for practical use? I'm considering T2 units since they're a fair bit cheaper.

It's fine. I recommend anything Tier 3 and above.

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Should I bump the EVGA NEX G series up to T3? I feel like it's weird that the Seasonic S12 is there while the NEX is not.

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1 hour ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Should I bump the EVGA NEX G series up to T3? I feel like it's weird that the Seasonic S12 is there while the NEX is not.

Eh, but it's been there so long... On a more serious note though, I guess we could. It just feels like for a gold unit, the NEX should just be doing better than it does...

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5 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Should I bump the EVGA NEX G series up to T3? I feel like it's weird that the Seasonic S12 is there while the NEX is not.

the NexG is an aurum CM unit, right? the bitfenix fury is the same platform and T3, kinda odd to see them in different tiers. I'd bump it but maybe add a disclaimer for bad value or something. 

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3 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

add a disclaimer for bad value or something. 

didn't we have a few page long arguments against this with that german guy who thought we should add prices (or disclaimers like this) 

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5 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

the NexG is an aurum CM unit, right? the bitfenix fury is the same platform and T3, kinda odd to see them in different tiers. I'd bump it but maybe add a disclaimer for bad value or something. 

Yeah, I'm gonna bump it up one.

 

2 hours ago, Megah3rtz said:

didn't we have a few page long arguments against this with that german guy who thought we should add prices (or disclaimers like this) 

No monetary anything should be taken into this list since prices vary wildly depending on time of year, things like Cryptocurrency mining and the value of high-wattage PSUs as such, and the location of the purchase.

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10 hours ago, Megah3rtz said:

didn't we have a few page long arguments against this with that german guy who thought we should add prices (or disclaimers like this) 

 

8 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yeah, I'm gonna bump it up one.

 

No monetary anything should be taken into this list since prices vary wildly depending on time of year, things like Cryptocurrency mining and the value of high-wattage PSUs as such, and the location of the purchase.

I have to agree, this list should be based on quality only. 

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22 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Should I bump the EVGA NEX G series up to T3? I feel like it's weird that the Seasonic S12 is there while the NEX is not.

I say no.

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24 minutes ago, JDE said:

I say no.

I bumped it to tier 3. It's decent for a group-regulated unit, is based on the same FSP Aurum platform as the Bitfenix Fury (T3), and should be in the same group as a Seasonic S12/M12.

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3 hours ago, MEC-777 said:

 

I have to agree, this list should be based on quality only. 

Yeah, quality and performance only, and the NEX was always tier 4 because it's just utter garbage for the pricepoint but still an OK unit, but since this is list is quality and performance only this is how it's gonna be.

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54 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I bumped it to tier 3. It's decent for a group-regulated unit, is based on the same FSP Aurum platform as the Bitfenix Fury (T3), and should be in the same group as a Seasonic S12/M12.

Shouldn't the Aurum be Tier 3 then?

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