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Is now a good time to upgrade?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi guys (and gals),

I was wondering the other day if now is a good time to upgrade my old editing rig. Like, building a new computer. My rig is getting quite old (I'm still rocking an i7 3770k and a GTX 1070) but editing on it is still fine to the most part (at least when working with ProRes footage and/or Proxys). Still, I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of potential workflow and rendering speeds.

 

So on to my question. Is now a good time to upgrade my machine to an i9 10900k based machine or rather is there any upcoming big hardware change or breakthrough that is worth waiting for a couple more months?

 

Maybe you guys can give advice on that topic. Thanks in advance.

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4 minutes ago, Gartenschlauch said:

is there any upcoming big hardware change or breakthrough that is worth waiting for a couple more months?

You betcha! It's called Zen 3 aka Ryzen 4th gen (or 5000).


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Now is the best time to upgrade. Zen 3 comes out in a month. Ampere is already out (depending on whether you can find a card or not). AND THE BIGGEST UPDATE for Editing Stations: The first REAL PciGen4 drives have just hit the stores a week ago:

Samsung 980PRO
ADATA Newest Gammix
Sabrent Rocket 4

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5 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

You betcha! It's called Zen 3 aka Ryzen 4th gen (or 5000).

I don't know how AMD can make it even more confusing for people who don't know much about hardware...

 

Zen3 = 4th Gen = 5000 Series


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Just Get A Mac Pro 😂Jk I Honestly Do not Know But you can Just Ask Other People Or Try To Build The New Sick Machines LMG Is using For Editing 

 

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6 minutes ago, JohnnyBoi11 said:

The first REAL PciGen4 drives have just hit the stores a week ago:

What about the Corsair MP600, Sabrent Rocket 4.0 and the Gigabyte one (forgot how it's called). These have been on shelves for ages. At least as long as X570.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - GPU: PNY RTX 3080 XLR8 Epic-X - RAM: 16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz - PSU: Corsair RMx 650W - Storage: 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 2,5" (OS) + 2 TB Samsung Evo 860 M.2 (Mass storage) - Cooling: EK & Alphacool custom loop - Case: CoolerMaster H500 - Fans: 6x Noctua NF-F12 chromax.black - Soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX II - Fan Controller: Corsair Commander Pro - OS: Windows 10 Pro - Monitors: 2x LG 27GN850-B HDR-Gaming-TV: LG C9 OLED 55" - Mouse: Logitech G Pro wireless + Powerplay - Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, Corsair K63 Wireless + Lapboard - Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT990 Edition 600 Ohm - Microphone: Antlion ModMic

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11 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

What about the Corsair MP600, Sabrent Rocket 4.0 and the Gigabyte one (forgot how it's called). These have been on shelves for ages. At least as long as X570.

I emphasized the word REAL because the previous Gen4 nVme that came out were built with a modified Gen3 controller (Phison e16) hitting high temps and topping 5GBs speeds AT MOST. The ones that came out now are the first REAL Gen4 SSDs since they use brand new PciGen4 controllers built from scratch for next generation architecture, allowing speeds above 7GBs (Some say they go up to 7.4) and the temps are much more reasonable.

They use the new Samsung Alpis, the Phison 18 or the new SM controller -- The first REAL Gen4 controllers (not that modified Gen3 Phison E16). Those older modified Gen3 nVme were rushed out so AMD can say YES THERE ARE gen4 drives on the market. So the PciGen4 platform would sell more.

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1 minute ago, Stahlmann said:

I don't know how AMD can make it even more confusing for people who don't know much about hardware...

 

Zen3 = 4th Gen = 5000 Series

3-4-5 haha, that's amusing.

But unifying the nomenclature for the CPU and APU is a good choice. No more confusion in the future.

Probably they want to hasten the release of zen3 laptop cpu to compete with tigerlake.

Intel will be bulldozed by then.


Ryzen 2600 @ 4ghz | Radeon RX580 | 32gb HyperX 3200mhz | 500gb Samsung PM981a | 5 TB HDD | Corsair CX450

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3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

 

Intel will be bulldozed by then.

The irony in this one when the bulldozer went over AMD....now its heading straight for Intel's doorstep!!


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1 minute ago, Gartenschlauch said:

So you guys suggest ditching Intel and going AMD in the future? Not going for the hackintosh this time i suppose...

AMD is the future.

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8 minutes ago, JohnnyBoi11 said:

AMD is the future.

AMD Fanboy detected ! 🚨

JK, I mean yes for the foreseeable future which is just a couple of weeks, 1 can confidently say that until Intel starts bundling an Xe Gaming GPU for free with their CPUs, no is gonna buy Intel. You can even go to PC part picker and look at the recently completed builds, most of them are on Ryzen.

 

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16 minutes ago, Gartenschlauch said:

So you guys suggest ditching Intel and going AMD in the future? Not going for the hackintosh this time i suppose...

Not ditching anyone, go for the best tech, no matter what brand. Currently AMD reigns supreme.

Can't recommend Intel apart from 10900k for absolute game madness.

Hackintosh you say? www.amdosx.com.


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9 minutes ago, Justaphysicsnerd said:

 

AMD Fanboy detected ! 🚨

JK, I mean yes for the foreseeable future which is just a couple of weeks, 1 can confidently say that until Intel starts bundling an Xe Gaming GPU for free with their CPUs, no is gonna buy Intel. You can even go to PC part picker and look at the recently completed builds, most of them are on Ryzen.

 

How big part of the pie are people who make a CPU-only build?

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16 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Not ditching anyone, go for the best tech, no matter what brand. Currently AMD reigns supreme.

Can't recommend Intel apart from 10900k for absolute game madness.

Hackintosh you say? www.amdosx.com.

Gaming really isn't my main focus on that machine though. I'm really more productivity/editing focused with maybe a chill session of gaming every then and now...

 

EDIT: also thanks for the amdosx.com link. Never new this existed...

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For production 3900x, if you in a hurry 3950x 16 sweet cores will serve you like a god.

For hackintosh you'll be loosing Intel quicksync if you use AMD, if you use it alot, then 10900k for you then.

Not a deal breaker tho, the many cores 3950x give you can make it up.


Ryzen 2600 @ 4ghz | Radeon RX580 | 32gb HyperX 3200mhz | 500gb Samsung PM981a | 5 TB HDD | Corsair CX450

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