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B450 or B550

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I am thinking to upgrade my system but i am not sure which motherbord to go for and which one is the best price to performance?

 

I'm planing to use a AMD Ryzen 3600.

 

The boards i'm considering are:

B450:

Asus ROG Strix B450-F - €109,00

MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - €120,95

 

B550:

MSI B550-A PRO - €145,00

Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite - €139,90

Asus TUF Gaming B550-Plus - €141,05

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B550 A Pro is probably the best bet.


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Don't play Overwatch. I've hate the game yet I play it every day.

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B550s are not much extra cost for some room for expansion. There are definitely B550 boards that are a little cheaper than that too, if you can find them.

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the strix f is subpart, if you can afford b550 then definitely  go for it. 

for b550, the aorus pro, strix f, tomahawk, mortar, a pro, vdh (basically a b450 tomahawk but with the newer chipset), are all good, 

for b450, tomahawk, mortar max/max, a pro max (non m), pro 4, pro vdh max, are all decent. 

10 hours ago, AirBourne said:

MSI B550-A PRO - €145,00

the tuf does have slightly better vrm but the a pro does have some nice features, it will more then enough, if you can afford it, go for it. 


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B550 TuF is the best one in terms of VRM quality and BIOS

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B550-A Pro. Those B450 boards are too expensive for what they are.


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3 hours ago, AirBourne said:

Asus ROG Strix B450-F - €109,00

i doubt you will get any pcie 4.0 parts till mobo dies

b450f is very solid board with many usefull ports

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I think the Gigabyte B550 may be good way to save cash here...


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1 hour ago, dfsgsfa said:

i doubt you will get any pcie 4.0 parts till mobo dies

b450f is very solid board with many usefull ports

It's an overpriced board with underpowered VRMs with the Asus and RGB tax.  


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My words of advice:

Don't buy Cherry Browns.

Don't play Overwatch. I've hate the game yet I play it every day.

Wireless > Lighter Mice

Silence > Temps for Coolers

Get a good PSU

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48 minutes ago, TheMcFunnel said:

Can 2nd gen ryzen work on B550 or is it incompatible 

 

B550 only works with Ryzen 3000-series upcoming Ryzen 4000-series CPUs only.

Ryzen 2000-series (e.g. 2600X, 2700X) is not supported.

At least from the looks of it, motherboard manufacturers have no plans to make support for 2000-series and older. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP

 

23 hours ago, gloop said:

B550 A Pro is probably the best bet.

 

23 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

the strix f is subpart, if you can afford b550 then definitely  go for it. 

for b550, the aorus pro, strix f, tomahawk, mortar, a pro, vdh (basically a b450 tomahawk but with the newer chipset), are all good, 

for b450, tomahawk, mortar max/max, a pro max (non m), pro 4, pro vdh max, are all decent. 

the tuf does have slightly better vrm but the a pro does have some nice features, it will more then enough, if you can afford it, go for it. 

 

22 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

B550-A Pro. Those B450 boards are too expensive for what they are.

Will the Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO (€124,90) be better than the MSI B550-A PRO?

becouse the Gigabyte board is cheaper that the MSI one and i don't care much if it is ATX or Micro-ATX

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7 minutes ago, AirBourne said:

Will the Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO be better than the MSI B550-A PRO?

They're both decent. I would still personally get the a pro, if the price difference isn't huge between them then the a pro would be really good. 


Fun Fact: The Meshify c is the best case to ever exist.

 

 

Wārudobītā

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3100.

B550m TuF plus.

Hyper x rgb 8 gig stick. (MJR or CJR  i still don't know lol).

1650 super.

CX450.

MX500.

NX500.

 

 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

They're both decent. I would still personally get the a pro, if the price difference isn't huge between them then the a pro would be really good. 

It is a difference of €20,-

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1 minute ago, AirBourne said:

It is a difference of €20,-

Yea I would personally get the a pro. 

The matx aorus pro will handle a 6 core just fine but the a pro is all around better iirc. 


Fun Fact: The Meshify c is the best case to ever exist.

 

 

Wārudobītā

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3100.

B550m TuF plus.

Hyper x rgb 8 gig stick. (MJR or CJR  i still don't know lol).

1650 super.

CX450.

MX500.

NX500.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, AirBourne said:

Will the Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO (€124,90) be better than the MSI B550-A PRO?

becouse the Gigabyte board is cheaper that the MSI one and i don't care much if it is ATX or Micro-ATX

No, the A Pro is much better.

 

If you don't care about features like debug LEDs, get the B550 Aorus Elite, assuming it's the ATX version, since it's the least expensive out of the three B550s you mentioned. It's got the best VRMs out of the bunch, but again, lacks some of the features of the A Pro, like debug LEDs and an internal Type-C connector.

Or maybe look for a Prime B550-Plus.

 

The B550M Aorus Pro will run hot with a 3900X, and the 3950X is out of the question without direct airflow onto the VRMs (which will be tricky because of the plastic heat insulator on the VRMs).


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