First build OVERPAYING 14yo KID

[c3dric69]

Hi there,

My name is Cédric and I'm 14 years old. I'm planning to build my pc this week, but I'm still in doubt between the i5 10600k and i7 10700k. I only will game, I'd love to go with the i5 and overclock it but I'm also scared to burn it. So I think the extra €140 is worth it to go with the i7 10700k. Besides that I'd want to ask if it's easy to set Windows 10 up. Since I bought last month myself a 'msi trident x plus' but there was a problem with the windows download and I actually wanted to build myself a pc because I didn't really like the looks of the pre-built.So I returned it. Uugh, my specs would be an i7 10700k and a RTX 2070 super pre overclocked from factory (I'm pretty scared to overclock), a rtx 2080 super wouldn't be necessary. I'm also really into cooling. I want my components to be cooled good. I'm going with a Z63. Is that good enough for the i7 10700k? Or should I go with a 360mm AIO? I'd want to build in the NZXT h710i. Are there any cases that are easier to build in? As a psu I'm going with the HX750i; first I wanted to cheap out. But people were telling me that RM psu's from Corsair are bad. RAM, I don't really know if there's a big difference between 3200mhz and 3600mhz. I'm going with 16 gigs of 3600mhz corsair vengeange. Or is it just a waste and should I just go with 3200mzh? As storage I'm going with 1tb of nvme and 1tb of sata 3 ssd. For motherboard I'm going with the 'Asus ROG MAXIIMUS XII HERO' just because I like the look. On this part you can't change my mind :3. Conclusion I'm paying to much for what I'm getting but it's fine :3. Am I going to play minecraft with 2000fps? :3 I'm going with only ssd's because hard drives are slow. Umm; also, I got into COD warzone, can this run 1440p max settings +144fps? I have the 'ASUS ROG Strix XG279Q' monitor. Currently using it on a laptop with a 1050 and i5 7300hq. I really want to build my new system :3. 

Greetz from Cédric :3
 

[eeeee1]

i would buy more storage if you will play cod mw.

this is a pretty beast of a machine. have fun

[Oswin]

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if you are overpaying then might as well wait a couple months for the newer hardware, spending this much on something this high end right now doesnt seem to be the smartest decision.

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[c3dric69]

7 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

i would buy more storage if you will play cod mw.

this is a pretty beast of a machine. have fun

Thx :3 

[mahyar]

1 i would wait for new cpus and graphics card

2 i would go amd yes 10600 and 10700 are good buuuuut high power consumption high temps and etc i would go with ryzen 3600

[minibois]

6 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

I'm still in doubt between the i5 10600k and i7 10700k. I only will game, I'd love to go with the i5 and overclock it but I'm also scared to burn it. So I think the extra €140 is worth it to go with the i7 10700k.

I don't get this reasoning.. But the 10600K has a way better price/performance for gaming.

7 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

Besides that I'd want to ask if it's easy to set Windows 10 up.

If you have another PC and a 8GB+ USB drive, it's as simple as downloading the program, setting up the drive and then installing it on the new PC. Not that difficult.

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8 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

I'm going with a Z63. Is that good enough for the i7 10700k? Or should I go with a 360mm AIO?

Enough, but a high quality air cooler (NH-D15, Dark Rock Pro 4) would also suffice

9 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

I'd want to build in the NZXT h710i. Are there any cases that are easier to build in?

I think that's a decent case, but if you're enthusiastic about good cooling, it might not be the best. But personally I am not that into cases, so wouldn't be able to really give an alternative suggestion.

9 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

As a psu I'm going with the HX750i; first I wanted to cheap out. But people were telling me that RM psu's from Corsair are bad.

An RM750 would work fine too.

10 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

I don't really know if there's a big difference between 3200mhz and 3600mhz.

If they are the same CL; not a huge difference. If the CL is higher on the 3600Mhz (like CL16 on 3200Mhz and CL18 on 3600Mhz) it would be identical.

10 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

As storage I'm going with 1tb of nvme and 1tb of sata 3 ssd.

Sure, seems fine.

11 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

I got into COD warzone, can this run 1440p max settings +144fps?

Looks like the 2070 Super is more like 100fps at 1440p.

[c3dric69]

6 minutes ago, Oswin said:

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if you are overpaying then might as well wait a couple months for the newer hardware, spending this much on something this high end right now doesnt seem to be the smartest decision.

I don't mean that I'm really overpaying. Parts are just really expensive to my knowing. I don't really want to wait another 6-8 months. I'm just bored af and want to play some games. It's going to be really hot the next weeks and being outside isn't healthy. :3 so ye . But ye I get it, ain't smart; but ain't broke . Someone has to buy the parts, and I already know the videocards won't be any cheaper when they have them here in stock here in Belgium. 

[gloop]

1 minute ago, c3dric69 said:

I don't mean that I'm really overpaying. Parts are just really expensive to my knowing. I don't really want to wait another 6-8 months. I'm just bored af and want to play some games. It's going to be really hot the next weeks and being outside isn't healthy. :3 so ye . But ye I get it, ain't smart; but ain't broke . Someone has to buy the parts, and I already know the videocards won't be any cheaper when they have them here in stock here in Belgium. 

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[Oswin]

1 minute ago, c3dric69 said:

I don't mean that I'm really overpaying. Parts are just really expensive to my knowing. I don't really want to wait another 6-8 months. I'm just bored af and want to play some games. It's going to be really hot the next weeks and being outside isn't healthy. :3 so ye . But ye I get it, ain't smart; but ain't broke . Someone has to buy the parts, and I already know the videocards won't be any cheaper when they have them here in stock here in Belgium. 

theres a difference between beeing really expensive and overpriced.

 

not being broke doesnt also mean you should spend things on unecessary parts that you could otherwise use to get better and faster components.

[c3dric69]

1 minute ago, minibois said:

I don't get this reasoning.. But the 10600K has a way better price/performance for gaming.

If you have another PC and a 8GB+ USB drive, it's as simple as downloading the program, setting up the drive and then installing it on the new PC. Not that difficult.

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Enough, but a high quality air cooler (NH-D15, Dark Rock Pro 4) would also suffice

I think that's a decent case, but if you're enthusiastic about good cooling, it might not be the best. But personally I am not that into cases, so wouldn't be able to really give an alternative suggestion.

An RM750 would work fine too.

If they are the same CL; not a huge difference. If the CL is higher on the 3600Mhz (like CL16 on 3200Mhz and CL18 on 3600Mhz) it would be identical.

Sure, seems fine.

Looks like the 2070 Super is more like 100fps at 1440p.

Awww thx. Ye; sure; 100fps will be fine. :3

[c3dric69]

1 minute ago, gloop said:

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Budget (including currency): €2000 (build is currently +€2500)

Country: Belgium (Coolblue only)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft with heavy shaders and COD warzone 1440p.

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[Drama Lama]

Don’t get the Evo you’ll get similar performance from lower priced SSDs

[c3dric69]

2 minutes ago, Oswin said:

theres a difference between beeing really expensive and overpriced.

 

not being broke doesnt also mean you should spend things on unecessary parts that you could otherwise use to get better and faster components.

I'm sorry I said that about the broke thing. Now I feel like a dumb 14yo kid; . 
Ye I, pc parts are really expensive. 

[c3dric69]

Just now, Drama Lama said:

Don’t get the Evo you’ll get similar performance from lower priced SSDs

Sure (': I will take a look :3

Thx

[c3dric69]

8 minutes ago, mahyar said:

1 i would wait for new cpus and graphics card

2 i would go amd yes 10600 and 10700 are good buuuuut high power consumption high temps and etc i would go with ryzen 3600

Oops; I'm not really into amd. I only game. NO workloads. 

 

[mahyar]

for gpu i suggest t go with amd 5700xt

[gloop]

3 minutes ago, c3dric69 said:

Budget (including currency): €2000 (build is currently +€2500)

Country: Belgium (Coolblue only)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft with heavy shaders and COD warzone 1440p.

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor	€399.00 @ Azerty
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler	€74.95 @ Paradigit
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	€220.05 @ Azerty
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	€95.85 @ Azerty
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€137.00 @ Azerty
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€64.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	€756.05 @ Azerty
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€95.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€120.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan	€10.98 @ Alternate Belgium
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan	€10.98 @ Alternate Belgium
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1986.53
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-03 20:02 CEST+0200

I'd personally go for AMD as in a previous post you said streaming and video editing which will benefit from multi-threaded performance. 

 

Also, huge mistake to go this high-end considering we are so close to new components.

[Drama Lama]

if you ask me I‘d rather get a big aircooler instead of the small watercooler

they are cheaper, more reliable and the cooling is on one level 

[mahyar]

Just now, c3dric69 said:

Oops; I'm not really into amd. I only game. NO workloads. 

 

another young intel fanboi intel chips are hot high power and expensive

[Oswin]

Just now, mahyar said:

another young intel fanboi intel chips are hot high power and expensive

tbh, if OP is only gaming, the 10600k and 10700k makes complete sense.

[c3dric69]

2 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

if you ask me I‘d rather get a big aircooler instead of the small watercooler

they are cheaper, more reliable and the cooling is on one level 

I really want to go with the Z63 to display my gf. uugh lol; oops 

 

[Oswin]

4 minutes ago, gloop said:

Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €137.00 @ Azerty

would change the SSD to this

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/9vWBD3/kingston-a2000-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sa2000m81000g

 

[c3dric69]

1 minute ago, Oswin said:

tbh, if OP is only gaming, the 10600k and 10700k makes complete sense.

thx; :3 at least I know intel chips are better for gaming

[find_better_name_later]

That motherboard looks like a Z490 Maximus Formula instead of a Z490 Maximus Hero in the picture. The VRMs on the Formula are meant to be watercooled, while the VRMs on the Hero have heatsinks on them, so they can be cooled by the case fans. So, make sure that you are not getting the Formula.

[c3dric69]

1 minute ago, Oswin said:

would change the SSD to this

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/9vWBD3/kingston-a2000-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sa2000m81000g

 

Is this more reliable than the samsung one?