91C full load OC amd ryzen 5 3600

[djd3]

Hello all,

 

I decided to test the limits of my Cooler master AIO and decided to OC to 4.3Ghz

Amd ryzen 5 3600 

Under a cinebench test it hit 91C at its max temp.

 

my question :

Is that too hot ?

 

without a load my system hovers around 40-50C depending on what I'm doing

So aside from some drafting work, I can't imagine my system being pushed harder while gaming than a cinebench test.

[Earnist_]

That seems way out of line , what is your voltage ? The 3600 shouldn’t run that hot under an aio unless you didn’t get a proper mount or the voltage is cranked 

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, djd3 said:

decided to OC to 4.3Ghz

What voltage?

 

5 minutes ago, djd3 said:

that too hot ?

Providing ambient temps to dont increase by more than 10°C. Then that temp is fine. 

 

Assuming you do full load work. 

[Statik]

That's very warm. How many volts are you pushing through that thing? Sounds like enough to degrade your chip if you ask me.

[Statik]

12 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

What voltage?

 

Providing ambient temps to dont increase by more than 10°C. Then that temp is fine. 

 

Assuming you do full load work. 

Considering he's 4C away from thermal throttle on a 6 core with a 240mm AIO I think he could do some tweaking to fix it. I've seen plenty of 3600 OCs, and this one seems on the hot side.

[Nena Trinity]

Normal for stock cooler, probably themal throttles before it gets to bad, its no issue as long as its near 3600cb score.

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, Statik said:

Considering he's 4C away from thermal throttle on a 6 core with a 240mm AIO I think he could do some tweaking to fix it. I've seen plenty of 3600 OCs, and this one seems on the hot side.

Well yeah, for some reason i thought tjmax was 100 or 105. Thats my bad. Put temps a bit too close, unless the only usecases arent full loads

 

The good question is how much voltage he is using, cause he might not be sustainable. 

[ZeroStressLevel]

I feel like this is user error.

[djd3]

2 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

What voltage?

 

Providing ambient temps to dont increase by more than 10°C. Then that temp is fine. 

 

Assuming you do full load work. 

I'm on auto voltage, just dipping my toe into overclocking and I just adjusted my base clock to 4.3 and put on the xmp profile. 

 

I had a different board before that was easier to play with, I'm on a tomahawk max now and it's a little tricky

[BruceWayneofLosSanto]

Auto voltage gives me way to much vcore in manual OC mode like 1.4v+, if yours is doing that it would explain the high temps.

[Statik]

21 minutes ago, djd3 said:

I'm on auto voltage, just dipping my toe into overclocking and I just adjusted my base clock to 4.3 and put on the xmp profile. 

 

I had a different board before that was easier to play with, I'm on a tomahawk max now and it's a little tricky

What vcore voltage is it putting out under load? Every Ryzen chip has a particular max safe voltage, and if you go over it you can easily damage your silicone and degrade your CPU.

[djd3]

10 hours ago, Statik said:

What vcore voltage is it putting out under load? Every Ryzen chip has a particular max safe voltage, and if you go over it you can easily damage your silicone and degrade your CPU.

 

[djd3]

i changed the CPU core voltage in that pic to 1.25

ran cinebench again and got max temp of 66C

and got a score of 3631

 

hows that ?

cause I'm flying blind here.

[Statik]

2 hours ago, djd3 said:

i changed the CPU core voltage in that pic to 1.25

ran cinebench again and got max temp of 66C

and got a score of 3631

 

hows that ?

cause I'm flying blind here.

That's a lot better. If you ran 1.46V daily, I can almost guarentee you'd damage your chip. The new Ryzen doesn't have a lot of headroom for OCing, and comes pretty much pinned out of the box.

Every Ryzen CPU has a certain voltage that is considered "safe". You can find it by running P95 Small FFTs and seeing what your vcore voltage maxes out at (with everything stock). If you go over that voltage, it's likely that you will degrade the silicone in your chip, and it will damage your CPU.

[djd3]

I read 1.25 was safe enough .. and tbh if I burn this out just means I can get a 4000 series chip when they come out .. 

[Nena Trinity]

Get custom cooler enable PBO and done CPU better. UwU

[djd3]

5 hours ago, Nena Trinity said:

Get custom cooler enable PBO and done CPU better. UwU

I have a cooler master AIO .. 

Once I adjusted voltage it didn't go over 65C 

And my base clock is 4.3ghz 

[Nena Trinity]

10 minutes ago, djd3 said:

I have a cooler master AIO .. 

Once I adjusted voltage it didn't go over 65C 

And my base clock is 4.3ghz 

PBO is better than manual OC...

[ZeroStressLevel]

10 minutes ago, djd3 said:

I have a cooler master AIO .. 

Once I adjusted voltage it didn't go over 65C 

And my base clock is 4.3ghz 

That's completely fine. You're above the boost clock and are at a safe voltage! I'm currently at 4.45Ghz 1.268V (HWinfo reports 1.26 for some reason) I would test for stability and see if you can go higher!

[ZeroStressLevel]

1 minute ago, Nena Trinity said:

PBO is better than manual OC...

Not always. Considering that he is above the boost clock at an all core context I'm sure a manual is much better. He can run R20 if he likes and I'm pretty sure he would find the static OC to be better. Reasons I know? Well I'm on 4.45ghz myself and I compared the results with a static OC and PBO side by side.

[Nena Trinity]

2 minutes ago, ZeroStressLevel said:

Not always. Considering that he is above the boost clock at an all core context I'm sure a manual is much better. He can run R20 if he likes and I'm pretty sure he would find the static OC to be better. Reasons I know? Well I'm on 4.45ghz myself and I compared the results with a static OC and PBO side by side.

Singe core performance will be much better with PBO... :I

[ZeroStressLevel]

1 minute ago, Nena Trinity said:

Singe core performance will be much better with PBO... :I

Considering i got 519 on my static OC (Probably higher now since I upped the clock speed) and PBO was still lower I don't exactly think so mate.

Edited July 1, 2020 by ZeroStressLevel
forgot to include it was the static oc that got 519

[Nena Trinity]

2 minutes ago, ZeroStressLevel said:

Considering i got 519 on my static OC (Probably higher now since I upped the clock speed) and PBO was still lower I don't exactly think so mate.

Oh my could it be that none of your cores are better than the others? O_O

[ZeroStressLevel]

1 minute ago, Nena Trinity said:

Oh my could it be that none of your cores are better than the others? O_O

My mate who had a 3700x and let PBO do its thing got 517 on single core r20. If you'd be so delighted to tell me your single core scores since I'd really like to know now. Also, how would PBO single core still be better? I'm pushing past the BOOST clock on ALL cores.

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, ZeroStressLevel said:

My mate who had a 3700x and let PBO do its thing got 517 on single core r20. If you'd be so delighted to tell me your single core scores since I'd really like to know now. Also, how would PBO single core still be better? I'm pushing past the BOOST clock on ALL cores.

havnt enabled PBO yet on mine, gotta replace the stock cooler before doing it.

Tough others have tested this!