3300x, 3500 or 3600?

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

14 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Then the 3300X is definitely the way I'd go. Photoshop doesn't really care, and light video editing isn't going to be noticeably different. The fact that it saves you money is really good, as you can put that towards a better GPU when they come out later this year. (September supposedly for the AMD stuff, and Nvidia is rumored to be around the same time)

i wont be upgrading for the next 7-9 years tho. would the 3300x still be a good go?

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

14 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Then the 3300X is definitely the way I'd go. Photoshop doesn't really care, and light video editing isn't going to be noticeably different. The fact that it saves you money is really good, as you can put that towards a better GPU when they come out later this year. (September supposedly for the AMD stuff, and Nvidia is rumored to be around the same time)

also, what about 2d and basic 3d game dev

[BTGbullseye]

1 hour ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

i wont be upgrading for the next 7-9 years tho. would the 3300x still be a good go?

Considering there is no way to know for sure what the future holds, I don't know. If you're really planning on waiting that long between upgrades though, it's highly likely that nothing you get now will be a good choice. (unless you're getting the 64-core EPYC, and a terabyte of RAM)

44 minutes ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

also, what about 2d and basic 3d game dev

That's usually less demanding than video editing, unless you're doing 3d renders, in which case it will just take a little longer to render than with a 3600.

[Nena Trinity]

3300x or 3600 with OC what ever the board you have can handle.

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

2 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Considering there is no way to know for sure what the future holds, I don't know. If you're really planning on waiting that long between upgrades though, it's highly likely that nothing you get now will be a good choice. (unless you're getting the 64-core EPYC, and a terabyte of RAM)

That's usually less demanding than video editing, unless you're doing 3d renders, in which case it will just take a little longer to render than with a 3600.

oh im surprised that game developing is less demanding that video editing. so in your honest opinion, the 3300x would be a good choice?

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

3300x or 3600 with OC what ever the board you have can handle.

ah, thanks a lot! ill mostly be getting the 3300x once b550 boards are out!

[Lord Vile]

On 6/2/2020 at 7:38 AM, PoopThatTookAPee said:

would it be worth the extra money? im VERYY tight on my budget lolz

Could you go used on the GPU or get an RX580?

[BTGbullseye]

2 hours ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

ah, thanks a lot! ill mostly be getting the 3300x once b550 boards are out!

So, are you planning on getting a next-gen GPU or PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives? If not, then there's no need to wait for B550.

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

58 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

Could you go used on the GPU or get an RX580?

the used market here in india is trash, often quoting prices near or more than the msrp. so thats a no go unfortunately

 

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

1 minute ago, BTGbullseye said:

So, are you planning on getting a next-gen GPU or PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives? If not, then there's no need to wait for B550.

thats still something i havent fixed my mind on yet. will ryzen 4000 fit in my price point and budget? also i thought if i were to get a 5500xt or so it could utilise that gen 4 pcie slot.

[Lord Vile]

33 minutes ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

the used market here in india is trash, often quoting prices near or more than the msrp. so thats a no go unfortunately

 

How much is the RX590 vs the 580? 

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

33 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

How much is the RX590 vs the 580? 

well the rx580 is not available for 100 miles near where i live, nor is the rx590, so . but in there are sellers selling them for a minimum 200$

 

oh, and they dont ship anywhere, just meet the seller and purchase the product. of course, thats not possible due to "human malware" thats everywhere

[Lord Vile]

1 hour ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

well the rx580 is not available for 100 miles near where i live, nor is the rx590, so . but in there are sellers selling them for a minimum 200$

 

oh, and they dont ship anywhere, just meet the seller and purchase the product. of course, thats not possible due to "human malware" thats everywhere

Christ could you order one on ebay from like the US or Britain? International postage surely wouldn't add up to £100

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

32 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

Christ could you order one on ebay from like the US or Britain? International postage surely wouldn't add up to £100

i did hop up on ebay usa to check the gpus on there, there is no shipping available lesser than 70 USD, on cards that cost 150 USD so theres no real value on that either.

 

the indian pc gaming scene is not that huge, and it is INCREDIBLY hard to find used supplies, unless theyre like 3 or 4 generations old. for us indians, its either new or none lol

[Lord Vile]

18 minutes ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

i did hop up on ebay usa to check the gpus on there, there is no shipping available lesser than 70 USD, on cards that cost 150 USD so theres no real value on that either.

 

the indian pc gaming scene is not that huge, and it is INCREDIBLY hard to find used supplies, unless theyre like 3 or 4 generations old. for us indians, its either new or none lol

From the Eu it's around £20 postage

[Stockholmes]

I would still go for a 3600 if you plan on keeping the system for a long time. 4 cores just aren't going to cut it going forward.. Atleast if you want to play newer games in 2+ years. That 40 bucks won't be spent better elsewhere by cutting down to a 3300x. Not by a long shot. Also planning on keeping even a 3600 system for gaming for 10 years is unrealistic, unless you only play older games (like those from today / next few years). I had my last system for 7 years and that was really showing it's age by then, when I bought it new it cost me 2k. All I'm saying is don't expect for the system to last 10 years if you want to play current games with it.

[BTGbullseye]

6 hours ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

thats still something i havent fixed my mind on yet. will ryzen 4000 fit in my price point and budget? also i thought if i were to get a 5500xt or so it could utilise that gen 4 pcie slot.

The 5500XT is only about the same performance as the RX 590 when overclocked... PCIe 4.0 is currently only useful for storage and CPU-to-motherboard connection speed improvements. No GPU below the RTX 2080TI has even been able to fully saturate a PCIe 3.0 x8 slot, much less an x16, so unless the next gen of GPUs is radically faster than the 2080TI, PCIe 4.0 brings nothing to the table for GPUs.

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

6 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

The 5500XT is only about the same performance as the RX 590 when overclocked... PCIe 4.0 is currently only useful for storage and CPU-to-motherboard connection speed improvements. No GPU below the RTX 2080TI has even been able to fully saturate a PCIe 3.0 x8 slot, much less an x16, so unless the next gen of GPUs is radically faster than the 2080TI, PCIe 4.0 brings nothing to the table for GPUs.

well, the 5500xt is of a newer generation anyway and it comes with gddr6. i guess thats better for upcoming games, and i can find it for the same price of an rx580 in india here. im still confused, but would you go for an rx590 or an rx5500xt when the 5500xt is priced cheaper?

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

9 hours ago, Stockholmes said:

I would still go for a 3600 if you plan on keeping the system for a long time. 4 cores just aren't going to cut it going forward.. Atleast if you want to play newer games in 2+ years. That 40 bucks won't be spent better elsewhere by cutting down to a 3300x. Not by a long shot. Also planning on keeping even a 3600 system for gaming for 10 years is unrealistic, unless you only play older games (like those from today / next few years). I had my last system for 7 years and that was really showing it's age by then, when I bought it new it cost me 2k. All I'm saying is don't expect for the system to last 10 years if you want to play current games with it.

ah ok thanks, ill try to cut costs to get the 3600!

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

10 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

From the Eu it's around £20 postage

at this stage, given the conditions around the world, i feel international shipping would be a major hassle. id rather get a new product locally to be honest. i found an rx5500xt for 220$, same price as the rx580. would that be a good deal?

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

17 hours ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

ah, thanks a lot! ill mostly be getting the 3300x once b550 boards are out!

 

14 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

So, are you planning on getting a next-gen GPU or PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives? If not, then there's no need to wait for B550.

i just found a ryzen 7 2700 for 180$, is that a good deal? is it any better than the ryzen 5 3600, given that it costs 230$ here?

[BTGbullseye]

11 hours ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

well, the 5500xt is of a newer generation anyway and it comes with gddr6. i guess thats better for upcoming games, and i can find it for the same price of an rx580 in india here.

For all gaming purposes, it's the same card. GDDR6 improves the GPU performance, yes, but not to more than the RX 590. (the 590 is just a maximum overclocked "golden chip" 580)

11 hours ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

im still confused, but would you go for an rx590 or an rx5500xt when the 5500xt is priced cheaper?

I would go for the less expensive card. It's a price to performance ratio... Pick the one that has the best performance near the top of your budget limit. If that's the 5500XT, than that's the one to get. If the RX 590 is available and cheaper, that's a better deal.

11 hours ago, PoopThatTookAPee said:

i just found a ryzen 7 2700 for 180$, is that a good deal? is it any better than the ryzen 5 3600, given that it costs 230$ here?

They should end up around the same for overall performance, though the 3600 has better single-core, and better gaming performance. You can overclock the 2700 to close the gap if you get a decent CPU cooler.

[Bassai Dai]

I've recently had the same decision. Whether to go for the 3300x or 3600.

From what I've seen/read and heard. I made the decision to go for the 3600. There was only like £20-£30 quid difference, and the longevity of the 3600 will be larger than the 3300× as more applications are making use of the extra cores. One YouTube reviewer said "the 3600 should be the cpu that in 6 years time, you'll look back and be glad you bought that one" I forget his name. The Canadian guy with long dark curly hair.

 

I deemed it to be worth the extra 20-30 quid tbh. Again, only from what I've seen/read and heard