my gtx 970m is a 74% bottleneck for my laptop

[HummusCake]

Hi, when i tested my cpu i7 4710hq and gtx 970m and it said my gpu is too weak for my cpu being 74% bottleneck and recommends a gtx 1060. i am saving up for a alienware graphics amplifier, can someone recommend a good gpu for this cpu? thx

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

i am saving up for a alienware graphics amplifier

don't, when you can sell your laptop and make a pretty decent desktop. A graphics card as low end as a 1060 makes an external dock a waste.

[Electronics Wizardy]

don't use those online calculators. 

 

What games do you play? What settings do you play them at?

[jaslion]

5 minutes ago, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

Hi, when i tested my cpu i7 4710hq and gtx 970m and it said my gpu is too weak for my cpu being 74% bottleneck and recommends a gtx 1060. i am saving up for a alienware graphics amplifier, can someone recommend a good gpu for this cpu? thx

Don't waste your money on a dock when for the price of one you can build a better pc or for the price of a dock + the money you get from the laptop when you sell it is going to get you a better laptop too.

[HummusCake]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

don't use those online calculators. 

 

What games do you play? What settings do you play them at?

I play doom 2016, tf2, crossout, skyrim, sourcefilm maker (super laggy). i play doom 2016 at high 1080p and get around 70 -80fps. tf2 works better on max settings oddly at 140fps and drops to around 80-90fps. crossout on high and a good 80fps+.

[HummusCake]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

don't, when you can sell your laptop and make a pretty decent desktop. A graphics card as low end as a 1060 makes an external dock a waste.

how much could i sell it for? 

[HummusCake]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Don't waste your money on a dock when for the price of one you can build a better pc or for the price of a dock + the money you get from the laptop when you sell it is going to get you a better laptop too.

i prefer laptops to desktop because of portability, what do you think i can get from this alienware? i know alienwares are popular on ebay lots of people sell them.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

how much could i sell it for? 

depends highly on where you sell it. Local markets, you'll have to check pricing in your area, eBay, they sell for about $400 to $500

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i prefer laptops to desktop because of portability

external graphics docks aren't very portable, you'd be able to make an ITX PC which is quite small and easy to bring places.

[HummusCake]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

depends highly on where you sell it. Local markets, you'll have to check pricing in your area, eBay, they sell for about $400 to $500

$400- $500? damn thats even lower cause im in the uk. surely i can get a good £600 because people are paying £500 for laptops with an i5 and no gpu

[SenKa]

Should tell you all you need to know about bottleneck calculators...

[HummusCake]

Just now, SenKa said:

Should tell you all you need to know about bottleneck calculators...

my friend is gonna build a pc with those parts and he also thought it was a bottleneck. Thanks for letting me know

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

$400- $500? damn thats even lower cause im in the uk. surely i can get a good £600 because people are paying £500 for laptops with an i5 and no gpu

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Motherboard	ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	£110.59 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£69.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£59.44 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB OC Video Card	£164.99 @ Amazon UK
Case	Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case	£39.95 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£47.00 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£491.95
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-07 18:04 BST+0100

This build is quite nice, and combined with a Ryzen 3 3100 or 3300X which will be available in a few days, it's a killer mobile PC. You could also go for a used Ryzen 5 2600 or something to avoid the need for a BIOS update, but if you're interested in third gen Ryzen you should contact AMD customer support when you buy the motherboard so they can send you the free boot kit for updates.

[SenKa]

What temps are your CPU/GPU running at under load? Has the laptop ever been torn apart and cleaned?

[5x5]

15 minutes ago, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

Hi, when i tested my cpu i7 4710hq and gtx 970m and it said my gpu is too weak for my cpu being 74% bottleneck and recommends a gtx 1060. i am saving up for a alienware graphics amplifier, can someone recommend a good gpu for this cpu? thx

Thes calculators are bullshit. Don't base any decision on them.

[5x5]

Just now, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

my friend is gonna build a pc with those parts and he also thought it was a bottleneck. Thanks for letting me know

Yeah, he won't have any issues with those parts (unlike what bullshit sites like that on other "bench" sites claim".

In short, the 4710HQ is a decent CPU for a 970M. If you want to upgrade, save up for a new laptop/desktop.

[HummusCake]

3 minutes ago, SenKa said:

What temps are your CPU/GPU running at under load? Has the laptop ever been torn apart and cleaned?

gpu temps are excellent, hardly reaches 70 degrees, cpu reaches 94 degrees max, i have cleaned it out twice, i switched toa  240w adapter. reapplied thermal paste, cleaned fans etc

 

edit: 70 on idle

[SenKa]

Just now, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

my friend is gonna build a pc with those parts and he also thought it was a bottleneck. Thanks for letting me know

Nope, bottleneck calculators are absolute garbage and should never be trusted. I play at 1440p 144Hz flawlessly.

 

The word "bottleneck" somehow managed to get demonized in the past year and a half or so, and im not sure how. You will always be bottlenecked in some way, even if its a couple percent. No system will perfectly match up in every game you play. Just choose your components based off of informed decisions and you will have a fantastic gaming experience.

[HummusCake]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Motherboard	ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	£110.59 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£69.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£59.44 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB OC Video Card	£164.99 @ Amazon UK
Case	Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case	£39.95 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£47.00 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£491.95
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-07 18:04 BST+0100

This build is quite nice, and combined with a Ryzen 3 3100 or 3300X which will be available in a few days, it's a killer mobile PC. You could also go for a used Ryzen 5 2600 or something to avoid the need for a BIOS update, but if you're interested in third gen Ryzen you should contact AMD customer support when you buy the motherboard so they can send you the free boot kit for updates.

Yeah you can build a better pc for the price but laptops cost come into place. Alienware 13,15,17 have insane build quality. 1080p and 4k displays too are super cheap for this model too. but i guess performance is outdated for this laptop. I wish i had gotten the i7 6700hq and gtx 980m model with ddr4 ram

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

Yeah you can build a better pc for the price but laptops cost come into place. Alienware 13,15,17 have insane build quality. 1080p and 4k displays too are super cheap for this model too. but i guess performance is outdated for this laptop. I wish i had gotten the i7 6700hq and gtx 980m model with ddr4 ram

Any laptop with an "m" series graphics card is not worth it in my opinion. Tenth gen Nvidia really improved the mobile gaming scene, with crazy efficiency allowing full desktop graphics chips in laptops across the board.

 

The important thing you get with a mini tower is an upgrade path. No need for an external dock for more power in the future. So you could choose between a nice display or better features for the future, and for gaming, pretty easy to justify the former.

[HummusCake]

18 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

depends highly on where you sell it. Local markets, you'll have to check pricing in your area, eBay, they sell for about $400 to $500

external graphics docks aren't very portable, you'd be able to make an ITX PC which is quite small and easy to bring places.

razer dock is £500 and alienwares one is £150. i only intend to use the dock for when i play games. Not like when im sitting on my bed or on the couch. 

[HummusCake]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

Any laptop with an "m" series graphics card is not worth it in my opinion. Tenth gen Nvidia really improved the mobile gaming scene, with crazy efficiency allowing full desktop graphics chips in laptops across the board.

 

The important thing you get with a mini tower is an upgrade path. No need for an external dock for more power in the future.

the one im after in the far future is alienware m15, i think they have desktop performance gpu and lga motherboard for cpu upgrade. But thats gonna cost £2500+. my laptop was £1500+ but that was 2015. i would hopefully like to build a desktop without having to sell my laptop

[Fasauceome]

Just now, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

the one im after in the far future is alienware m15, i think they have desktop performance gpu and lga motherboard for cpu upgrade. But thats gonna cost £2500+. my laptop was £1500+ but that was 2015. i would hopefully like to build a desktop without having to sell my laptop

By the time you purchase the M15 it will have all last gen hardware.

[HummusCake]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

By the time you purchase the M15 it will have all last gen hardware.

Yeah true, but if my alienware from 2015 can handle doom eternal 1080p on low at 50-60fps then surely it will still be a beast of a laptop and prices will drop. and if motherboard supports the newer cpus

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, linusfanboi_skrub1 said:

and if motherboard supports the newer cpus

It does not, we have long since had confirmation that LGA 1200 is Intel's next socket.

[HummusCake]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

It does not, we have long since had confirmation that LGA 1200 is Intel's next socket.

oh i see, what do you think is an alienware laptop that would be great for gaming for a few years. mainly for the games i play