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Is it useless to Overclock r7 3700x?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I stumbled upon a funny website claiming that it's useless to enable PBO or manually overclock an r7 3700x and I was like What???

Seriously why do these websites even exist, just wanted to share it with you guys.

here's that damn link

 

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/amd-precision-boost-overdrive-auto-overclocking

 

Do share your opinion on this one!

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I mean most Ryzen Chips due to their design cannot be overclocked that much therefore in a lot of cases it doesn't make a lot of sense overclocking one. You could potentially overclock the r7 3700x but again you will get only a minor perfromance boost.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, AndreiArgeanu said:

I mean most Ryzen Chips due to their design cannot be overclocked that much therefore in a lot of cases it doesn't make a lot of sense overclocking one. You could potentially overclock the r7 3700x but again you will get only a minor perfromance boost.

🤔 Does that mean the benchmarks shown on that site are real?

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Because its really a lot different than on the 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen.

On 3rd gen Ryzen it is a hit or miss and it depends on which exact CPU you have and motherboard + BIOS version as well. For my 3900X the PBO is worse than having the CPU on stock. Not only I get less performance by enabling PBO, my CPU is also unstable by doing so and I get constant crashes.

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1 minute ago, Hellfire_Helix said:

🤔 Does that mean the benchmarks shown on that site are real?

Most likely, because in a lot of benchmarks there are minor performance performance improvements.

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1 hour ago, Hellfire_Helix said:

🤔 Does that mean the benchmarks shown on that site are real?

I quickly skimmed, but I would say so. I have PBO + AutoOC on my 3800x, and it's the  only thing I recommend on Ryzen 3k


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I guess it depends on your workloads and where you want the most performance.  

 

If you absolutely need the best single-core performance (for whatever it might be) then running PBO or something like the EDC bug will get you the fastest speeds.  EDC bug more than PBO.

 

If you find that single-core loads can be adequately handled at slightly slower speeds than the fastest single-core speed the EDC bug can give you AND you find your important workloads benefit from all-core speed then a manual overclock is going to be better.  I say that because PBO and the EDC bug won't run all cores at the speed you could dial in manually and you can likely reach speeds 200MHz ~ 400MHz higher with an all-core overclock.  And if you have a 3900X or 3950X than per CCD overclocking is even better.  


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, nick name said:

I guess it depends on your workloads and where you want the most performance.  

 

If you absolutely need the best single-core performance (for whatever it might be) then running PBO or something like the EDC bug will get you the fastest speeds.  EDC bug more than PBO.

 

If you find that single-core loads can be adequately handled at slightly slower speeds than the fastest single-core speed the EDC bug can give you AND you find your important workloads benefit from all-core speed then a manual overclock is going to be better.  I say that because PBO and the EDC bug won't run all cores at the speed you could dial in manually and you can likely reach speeds 200MHz ~ 400MHz higher with an all-core overclock.  And if you have a 3900X or 3950X than per CCD overclocking is even better.  

We are specifically talking about the r7 3700x and It's not just about this site there are other sites as well like this one 

 

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-7-3700x-overclocking-benchmarks-performance?amp 

which say that overclocking isn't beneficial particularly with the r7 3700x.

I am quite confused there are several YouTube benchmarking videos as well which claim to have negligible performance gains while being Oc'ed.

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Kinda useless, depending on your workload. For gaming better let the boost do it's job so you will get higher single core performance. 


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8 minutes ago, Hellfire_Helix said:

We are specifically talking about the r7 3700x and It's not just about this site there are other sites as well like this one 

 

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-7-3700x-overclocking-benchmarks-performance?amp 

which say that overclocking isn't beneficial particularly with the r7 3700x.

I am quite confused there are several YouTube benchmarking videos as well which claim to have negligible performance gains while being Oc'ed.

Everything I said pertains to all Ryzen 3000 CPUs except at the very end where I specifically mentioned the CPUs with two CCDs.  I think I may see the problem here.  

 

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, xAcid9 said:

Kinda useless, depending on your workload. For gaming better let the boost do it's job so you will get higher single core performance. 

So you would say that turning on PBO would be good right?

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Just now, nick name said:

Everything I said pertains to all Ryzen 3000 CPUs except at the very end where I specifically mentioned the CPUs with two CCDs.  I think I may see the problem here.  

 

 

Ohh. That definitely means the website claiming that is just fake. Thanks for helping me out.

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58 minutes ago, Hellfire_Helix said:

Ohh. That definitely means the website claiming that is just fake. Thanks for helping me out.

That isn't what I said.  


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That site makes no mention (that I saw) of which BIOS version they were running or which AGESA the unknown BIOS is using.  It's also from October.  Those numbers may have been true then, but I couldn't tell you whether they are true now.  Also, they were running a 120 AIO on the CPU.  That ain't really enough to unlock any extra performance.  

 

I won't say they are lying, but I also wouldn't trust that they can accurately test what they are trying to test.  


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