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Tran

I have a powerline ethernet for my room because the router is in the living room, I should be getting around 100+ (Google Fiber) up and down but I'm just getting 25 up and down. What should I do to the Powerline?

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14 minutes ago, Tran said:

What should I do to the Powerline?

Is "throw them in the e-waste recycling bin" a valid option? What about "replace home wiring with superconductors"?

 

There's not many redeeming qualities to Powerline Ethernet as a whole, especially in a world where Wi-fi can pretty handily beat it in speed and latency. If you happen to have co-ax in/to both rooms, MoCA is a much better alternative.

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Network:

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                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center       ├─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom      └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

 

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14 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

especially in a world where Wi-fi can pretty handily beat it in speed and latency

i somewhat agree with this bit. with a decent accesspoint and not too much obstruction wifi can handle the job just fine.

Im on 5ghz 802.11N wifi trough two 15cm concrete floors/ceilings and im exceeding the 100mbit/sec we should get and only a couple ms ping on a good day with low 10's on a bad day. Again, this depends on your situation. My accesspoint is basically the only one on 5ghz on the block. 

As always, if you can run a cable, do it!

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41 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

Is "throw them in the e-waste recycling bin" a valid option? What about "replace home wiring with superconductors"?

 

There's not many redeeming qualities to Powerline Ethernet as a whole, especially in a world where Wi-fi can pretty handily beat it in speed and latency. If you happen to have co-ax in/to both rooms, MoCA is a much better alternative.

 where a video of where the router/modem is from the room. I think I might just get an AC wifi adapter for my PC but wanted your suggestion. If so, do you recommend any AC wifi adapter? 

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Just now, Windows7ge said:

What Powerline Adapter is it?

TP link av500 2 port

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6 minutes ago, Tran said:

TP link av500 2 port

When you say you're getting 25 is that MB or Mbits.

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On 12/12/2019 at 9:10 AM, AbydosOne said:

Is "throw them in the e-waste recycling bin" a valid option? What about "replace home wiring with superconductors"?

 

There's not many redeeming qualities to Powerline Ethernet as a whole, especially in a world where Wi-fi can pretty handily beat it in speed and latency. If you happen to have co-ax in/to both rooms, MoCA is a much better alternative.

I'm looking into MoCa, do I need to have any specific wiring for the coax cables in my walls of the house. Because I know I have a coax cable near my router that is running to my cable box that I could easily hook up to the MoCa box and the room I want the Ethernet in I have another coax cable connected to another cable box that I could easily hook up to the send MoCa box.  

https://imgur.com/a/vnUAD4f

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3 hours ago, Tran said:

I'm looking into MoCa

As long as both coax runs are on that four-way splitter, you should be fine (the frequency band looks like it will work). I also recommend a MoCA signal blocker on the public side of your network to make sure your MoCA network doesn't bleed into anyone else's.

 

Do you have satellite TV over the coax right now? I can't say how that will play with the MoCA adapters, so look into that if it's true.

 

Glad that my recommendation could help you. MoCA is probably my favorite technology that doesn't show up if you Google "ethernet over coax" (it's gotten better since I found it, thankfully).

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Network:

Spoiler
                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center       ├─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom      └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

 

Retired/Other:

Spoiler

Laptop (Rozen-Zulu): Sony VAIO VPCF13WFX | Core i7-740QM | 8GB Patriot DDR3 | GT 425M | Samsung 850EVO 250GB SSD | Blu-ray Drive | Intel 7260 Wifi (lived a good life, retired with honor)

Testbed/Old Desktop (Kshatriya): Xeon X5470 @ 4.0GHz | ZALMAN CNPS9500 | Gigabyte EP45-UD3L | 8GB Nanya DDR2 400MHz | XFX HD6870 DD | OCZ Vertex 3 Max-IOPS 120GB | Corsair CX430M | HooToo USB 3.0 PCIe Card | Osprey 230 Video Capture | NZXT H230 Case

TrueNAS Server (La Vie en Rose): Xeon E3-1241v3 | Supermicro X10SLL-F | Corsair H60 | 32GB Micron DDR3L ECC 1600MHz | 1x Kingston 16GB SSD / Crucial MX500 500GB

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23 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

As long as both coax runs are on that four-way splitter, you should be fine (the frequency band looks like it will work). I also recommend a MoCA signal blocker on the public side of your network to make sure your MoCA network doesn't bleed into anyone else's.

 

Do you have satellite TV over the coax right now? I can't say how that will play with the MoCA adapters, so look into that if it's true.

 

Glad that my recommendation could help you. MoCA is probably my favorite technology that doesn't show up if you Google "ethernet over coax" (it's gotten better since I found it, thankfully).

https://imgur.com/a/9aRP2z5

https://imgur.com/a/U6zf63T

Idk if this helps but to answer your question, yes I do have satellite TV over both of the coax cables show in separated photos. And I'm a bit new to this MoCa, so what exactly is a signal blocker?  Is it this https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=sxin_3_ac_d_pm?ac_md=1-0-VW5kZXIgJDEw-ac_d_pm&keywords=Moca filter&pd_rd_i=B00DC8IEE6&pd_rd_r=7c00477b-e2eb-480f-9900-3e57f6c949ba&pd_rd_w=fHjhg&pd_rd_wg=E3eWr&pf_rd_p=709d2064-e546-4799-9e66-b352ea89951f&pf_rd_r=7ZFNMTA6ZW8S9FVQ5YHJ&psc=1&qid=1576286191&tag=linus21-20 

how exactly would I know where I should put it on, I'm assuming here? https://imgur.com/a/Te3j7Vk

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On 12/12/2019 at 10:10 AM, AbydosOne said:

Is "throw them in the e-waste recycling bin" a valid option? What about "replace home wiring with superconductors"?

 

There's not many redeeming qualities to Powerline Ethernet as a whole, especially in a world where Wi-fi can pretty handily beat it in speed and latency. If you happen to have co-ax in/to both rooms, MoCA is a much better alternative.

It really depends on a lot of factors. Many homes are not suitable candidates for powerline ethernet due to wiring constraints and interference. My home is about 20 years old and PL works fantastic where my wifi signal is spotty at best (from my router downstairs to an adjacent room upstairs). It also provides much more stable speeds than our wifi...again, our home being not that old is ideal for this type of ethernet.

 

Calling them  'junk' is as inaccurate as claiming powerline adapters are the best thing known to man kind.

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33 minutes ago, steelo said:

It really depends on a lot of factors. Many homes are not suitable candidates for powerline ethernet due to wiring constraints and interference. My home is about 20 years old and PL works fantastic where my wifi signal is spotty at best (from my router downstairs to an adjacent room upstairs). It also provides much more stable speeds than our wifi...again, our home being not that old is ideal for this type of ethernet.

 

Calling them  'junk' is as inaccurate as claiming powerline adapters are the best thing known to man kind.

? I try to avoid using the word "always" as a general guideline.  

 

All the various technologies have their place, but are obviously subject to limitations...including Ethernet runs.  Knowing when/where/how to implement the technology is the key.

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