would ryzen 7 2700x bottleneck rtx 2070

[Bipandeep]

I am going to build a PC and my budget can extend up-to some 1200 or 1300 , i am planning to buy its part near black Friday. and for cpu and gpu i have choosed ryzen 7 2700x and zotac rtx 2070 respectively. is my choice good , could i be able to play ultra setting in games , would i be facing more bottleneck or no . 

[Streetguru]

14 minutes ago, Bipandeep said:

I am going to build a PC and my budget can extend up-to some 1200 or 1300 , i am planning to buy its part near black Friday. and for cpu and gpu i have choosed ryzen 7 2700x and zotac rtx 2070 respectively. is my choice good , could i be able to play ultra setting in games , would i be facing more bottleneck or no . 

Do you really need the 8 core?  Because an R5 3600 with some fast memory would be better for gaming by like 10-15%

And what country? Because the RX 5700 is likely a better value GPU.

 

What resolution/refresh rate?

What's your current parts list? Here's a "best value" one for reference.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FNVnn7

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($56.70 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card  ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar MX330-X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $961.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-11 23:30 EDT-0400

[SnowyMus]

38 minutes ago, Bipandeep said:

I am going to build a PC and my budget can extend up-to some 1200 or 1300 , i am planning to buy its part near black Friday. and for cpu and gpu i have choosed ryzen 7 2700x and zotac rtx 2070 respectively. is my choice good , could i be able to play ultra setting in games , would i be facing more bottleneck or no . 

If you can, you should get the Ryzen 5 3600 instead of the Ryzen 7 2700X as it'll perform better in gaming due to the better speed of the Zen 2 cores.

 

You can play ultra settings just fine with a Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070 combo. The question is: do you care more about resolution or framerate? If you're wanting to play at 1440p ultra, this combination will work well for you. You should see 60+ FPS in most games. On the other hand, if you're wanting to play at 1080p to get the highest frame rate possible, the Ryzen 5 3600 is still fine in most cases, but it'll depend on the games you're looking to play.

 

If you just want to play at ultra settings, I'd have to agree with @Streetguru's response on getting an RX 5700. In most cases, it'll perform on par with an RTX 2070 while costing over $100 less. You will miss out on some RTX-specific features like RTX's real-time ray tracing, but often times, these features either aren't available on most games, they have some sort of AMD equivalent, or they hardly matter in most games.

[Bipandeep]

@Streetguru i have budget of 1000 or max 1200 $ 

i am form US . for monitor resolution and refresh rate i have a question as i am new to all desktop pc stuff but my mind set is to have games on ultra setting run smoothly and basically i want good quality while gaming . i am confused like whether high refresh rate or greater resolution will be better .

 

@Kavawuvi i can go with ryzen 5 3600 to but in this context my only question is would i be future proof with ryzen as intel is known for little better experience 

[The Torrent]

On 10/12/2019 at 4:14 AM, Bipandeep said:

I am going to build a PC and my budget can extend up-to some 1200 or 1300 , i am planning to buy its part near black Friday. and for cpu and gpu i have choosed ryzen 7 2700x and zotac rtx 2070 respectively. is my choice good , could i be able to play ultra setting in games , would i be facing more bottleneck or no . 

go with a 3600 with some 3600mhz memory youll be a lot better off.

[The Torrent]

3 minutes ago, Bipandeep said:

 

@Kavawuvi i can go with ryzen 5 3600 to but in this context my only question is would i be future proof with ryzen as intel is known for little better experience 

3600 would be more 'Future Proof'.

 

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, Bipandeep said:

@Streetguru i have budget of 1000 or max 1200 $

It's like 5-10% behind equivilant 5ghz intel CPUs for gaming, but it has a lot more multi-threaded performance if you ever do anything besides gaming.

there is no such thing as future proof, but having more threads is nice IMO

 

Should either get a 1080p 144hz display, or a 1440p 100-120hz ultra wide for the monitor

3600mhz CL16 RAM might be nice, but it's rather expensive right now
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMWgL2

Monitor: AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Monoprice 138035 35.0" 3440x1440 120 Hz Monitor  ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $554.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-21 17:28 EDT-0400
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rMk2Rk

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.49 @ B&H)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card  ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $988.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-21 17:31 EDT-0400
 

 

[Jon Jon]

3 hours ago, Streetguru said:

It's like 5-10% behind equivilant 5ghz intel CPUs for gaming, but it has a lot more multi-threaded performance if you ever do anything besides gaming.

there is no such thing as future proof, but having more threads is nice IMO

 

Should either get a 1080p 144hz display, or a 1440p 100-120hz ultra wide for the monitor

3600mhz CL16 RAM might be nice, but it's rather expensive right now
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMWgL2

Monitor: AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Monoprice 138035 35.0" 3440x1440 120 Hz Monitor  ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $554.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-21 17:28 EDT-0400
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rMk2Rk

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.49 @ B&H)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card  ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $988.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-21 17:31 EDT-0400
 

 

I would honestly suggest saving on the X570 board and going for a B450. Use that savings and spring for DDR4-3600 RAM and bumping up to a 5700XT Red Dragon or Pulse.

[Streetguru]

Just now, Jon Jon said:

I would honestly suggest saving on the X570 board and going for a B450. Use that savings and spring for DDR4-3600 RAM and bumping up to a 5700XT Red Dragon or Pulse.

Dunno if the B450 board would limit memory overclocking though

[Jon Jon]

8 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Dunno if the B450 board would limit memory overclocking though

Faster RAM is more CPU limited than not with Ryzen.

 

One of the other guys on here is even running on an X370 board with no issues.

 

Pairing that and a 5700XT would easily yield 10-20% more performance, which if he wants to run ultra, he will want it.

 

EDIT: It will require a bit more research of course.

[Bipandeep]

@Jon Jon @Streetguru can i be able to reach 3600 ram speed if i bought b450 or i could consider 3200 with Xm570 mobo. in 

 and i also wanna know whether  Overclocking woould we effected by these two board AKA which will give me better result if i might overclock my cpu 

 

[Streetguru]

7 hours ago, Bipandeep said:

@Jon Jon @Streetguru can i be able to reach 3600 ram speed if i bought b450 or i could consider 3200 with Xm570 mobo. in 

 and i also wanna know whether  Overclocking woould we effected by these two board AKA which will give me better result if i might overclock my cpu 

 

Ryzen 3000 is near it's limit out of the box, but if you want to do like a custom water cooling loop and push it harder you'd want the nicer VRM on X570

 

my main point is that X570 isn't much more expensive in the long run, so you might as well get the upgrade, minor though it may be.

B450 is fine if you just want to save the money.

[BTGbullseye]

On 10/21/2019 at 3:23 PM, Bipandeep said:

intel is known for little better experience 

Intel is currently behind on single-core and multi-core performance. Even the 3600x (basically a 3600 with a very mild overclock) has better single core performance than the best Intel chip available, and for a MUCH lower price.

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

[Jon Jon]

14 hours ago, Bipandeep said:

@Jon Jon @Streetguru can i be able to reach 3600 ram speed if i bought b450 or i could consider 3200 with Xm570 mobo. in 

 and i also wanna know whether  Overclocking woould we effected by these two board AKA which will give me better result if i might overclock my cpu 

 

If money is no object, get a high end X570 and a nice 3600 ram kit and be done with it.

 

You can do similar if you do your research on B450 boards that support faster ram.

 

I do agree with @Streetguru that if you can spend it, go X570 and do it right.

[Mathieu9836]

I will disagree that the 3600 perform better then the 2700, the 2700 is cheaper then the 3600 (in Canada at least), they perform about the same in average FPS. The 2700 can be overclocked to the same as the 2700X and they are very low priced these days. Get 3200mhz cl14 ram and you will probably outperform a stock 3600 cpu. The 2nd gen Ryzen is still very impresive when overlocked, most people think 3rd gen Ryzen are way better then the 2nd gen but it's not that much of an increase in overall performance.

Get the MSI B450 Tomahawk or the X470 Pro Carbon if you can afford it, with a Ryzen 2700 and 3200mhz cl14 RAM, you won't regret not buying a 3rd gen Ryzen.

[Bipandeep]

@Mathieu9836 i decided to go with 5 3600

[Bipandeep]

1 question more can please somebody tell me about black friday sale coming . As i am from india and i don't know much about trend of black friday sale so will it be good to build my PC near those days 

[Bipandeep]

@Streetguru @Jon Jon

[BTGbullseye]

23 minutes ago, Bipandeep said:

1 question more can please somebody tell me about black friday sale coming . As i am from india and i don't know much about trend of black friday sale so will it be good to build my PC near those days 

Many online sellers will provide a bunch of discounts the friday following Thanksgiving, that is when Black Friday is. It originated with stores putting out all their Christmas decorations and products around that time, and people buying lots of stuff then to have time to wrap it and let it sit under the Christmas tree. Since it was so popular, it spread across the globe, and to online stores. Can frequently find deals like 50% off for things that are too expensive to move out fast in large quantities.

[Bipandeep]

Okkkkkk @BTGbullseye Thanksss mann ..

[Vejnemojnen]

On 10/23/2019 at 9:50 PM, Mathieu9836 said:

I will disagree that the 3600 perform better then the 2700, the 2700 is cheaper then the 3600 (in Canada at least), they perform about the same in average FPS. The 2700 can be overclocked to the same as the 2700X and they are very low priced these days. Get 3200mhz cl14 ram and you will probably outperform a stock 3600 cpu. The 2nd gen Ryzen is still very impresive when overlocked, most people think 3rd gen Ryzen are way better then the 2nd gen but it's not that much of an increase in overall performance.

 

Then something else worth mentioning: Though 6 cores are  enough for gaming, who knows what tomorrow brings? I think, 2700 is well worth the price.  Former gen Ryzen still has better price-to-performance ratio than new gen. At least for now.

 

With a better B450 board (MSI MAX series: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX, A-pro MAX, Tomahawk MAX, Mortar MAX) you can Overclock an eight core CPU without too much hassle.

 

Then later, the extra two cores of the 2700 could come handy, esp for min FPS and 0.1-1% lows. In my country, the 2700boxed can be bought for ~150 USD with games, whereas 3600 is above 200USD, and one should get an aftermarket cooler for both of these anyways.

 

The 2700 sounds better value and more futureproof, than the 3600. The latter is marginally faster in games, though.

[hollyh88]

On 10/23/2019 at 10:52 AM, BTGbullseye said:

Intel is currently behind on single-core and multi-core performance. Even the 3600x (basically a 3600 with a very mild overclock) has better single core performance than the best Intel chip available, and for a MUCH lower price.

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

lol yeah stock. but an 9900k or a 9700k passes that easily with a normal oc of around 4.7
 

 

[Jon Jon]

19 hours ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Then another noteworthy point: Though now 6 cores are perfectly fine for gaming, who knows what the future brings? I think, 2700 is a pretty good value CPU, and 2nd gen Ryzen generally still has better price-to-performance ratio than 3rd gen. At least for the moment.

 

With a decent B450 board (MSI MAX series: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX, A-pro MAX, Tomahawk MAX, Mortar MAX) you can OC an eight core CPU without issues. Then later, the extra two cores of the 2700 could prove beneficial, esp for min FPS and 0.1-1% lows. In my country, now the 2700boxed can be bought for ~150 USD with games included, whereas 3600 is above 200USD, and one must get an aftermarket cooler for both of these anyways.

 

The 2700 sounds better value and more futureproof, than the 3600. The latter is marginally faster in games, though.

It is true.

 

I was toying around with AC: Origins yesterday and was surprised to see it consume 8 threads. I look into it, and apparently that game will gobble up compute if you have it.

[BTGbullseye]

9 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

lol yeah stock. but an 9900k or a 9700k passes that easily with a normal oc of around 4.7
 

 

Do you not see the 9900KF on that list? That's the 9900K overclocked to 5.0GHz...

[Bipandeep]

CPU-  AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor COOLER- Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler MOBO- MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard RAM- G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive PSU -Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply   so far is my incomplete build good?????  and now question are of- 1. GPU- while going with rx 5700 or 5700 xt should i go with developer edition or after market edition. 2. STORAGE- with crucial p1 what do you recommend for more storage for only storing my files. 3. CASE- there are soooooooo much to choose but the key point is i don't wanna spend whole lot of money on that and want it to be good in respect to air flow in it.   is there any correction in those things or u can refer something better will be helpfull you guys are great supporters though very much thankful to you  all. @Jon Jon @BTGbullseye @Streetguru